83z28500ci

specs are
74 350 2 bolt main
flat top pistons
compression ratio is around 9:5:1 - 10:1
heads are world product s\r torqers with 2.02\1.60 valves, 3 angle valve job ,67 cc, 1.6 roller tip rockers
cam is a 458\458 lift with 218\218 dur. at .050 in
i have a torker 2 intake single plane,
600 cfm holly for now till i save up some money for a 750 dp
has accel super coil and wires thats bout it. shorty headers with 3 in single exuast.
turbo 350 trans with 3k stall.
rear is a 3.23 limited slip

im guessin mid to high 13's what do u guys think?

ede

what kind of car? slicks? any suspension mods? what's the car weigh? if it's a f body i'd guess more like mid to high 14s with stock rear suspension set up.

83z28500ci

its all in a 83 z28, stock suspension, i probly would run 235\60\15 tires in the back if i do go to the track

Mark A Shields

Yeah I would say low 14s.

No4NJunk

Hey guys I'm back!!

I'd say mid 13's with traction. I ran about a high 13 with an almost stock motor ( the mods above the picture).

Mark A Shields

Where ya been, I was wondering where you were?
Oh, and I thought you had 3:73s, actually just remembered didn't you say you were switching them?

Anyway I just ordered the Comp 268XE and springs and my bro bought me the Stealth intake. So I should knock off a good chunk of time now.

snjracer

still not fast enough for me.. the only win you have so far in on motor.. so we gonna lock up this weekend, or will i just be met with more excuses...


excuses are nails in the house of failure... be ready.. friday night...i get left lane.. so when i pass you i can pull into the normal lane... i hope this time i don't get you by 10 + cars...

83z28500ci

hhahaha omg how u find this website, well u know im ready for friday, i put a new lifter in so i got all my 8 cylynders back, i also put a new exuast gasket so it dont leak and sound like ****. but spray all u want cause this time i will beat u. o my voltige is fixed so everything is normal. i duno if i told u that

83z28500ci

hhahaha omg how u find this website, well u know im ready for friday, i put a new lifter in so i got all my 8 cylynders back, i also put a new exuast gasket so it dont leak and sound like ****. but spray all u want cause this time i will beat u. o my voltige is fixed so everything is normal. i duno if i told u that

snjracer

lol good then i won't have to wait for you to be jump started so i cna beat you.. like the one time in the woods... lol

don't wory come friday you will :hail: :hail: to the bottle

evil t/a

You guys should race to english class.

83z28500ci

the 4 times u won is because
#1. my holly was no good and untuned
#2. the cam i had in was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to big,
#3. the first time u beat me was due to the #1 piston not beeing up when i first installed the cam
#4. i think thats all

i cant wait to meet yur bottle lol, i hope u have bigger jets.

snjracer

IF i lose.. i can always run again and up jet... if you lose you are done.. lol not a whole lot of fine tuning..


EXCUSES ARE NAILS IN THE HOUSE OF FAILURE!!!!!!!

83CAMAROMAN

hahaahaa @evil t/a........hahah i see snjracer is making friends everywhere......good luck 83z..........hahah race to english class.......

dimented24x7

iTrader: (2)

hey snjracer, what kind of car you racing? Ford, chevy, honda??? Just curious... My last car was a riced out vtec powered honda and although the honda is definatly faster then my camaro i would never give up my 350 in a zillion years. I just found a new friend named torque and him and I are gonna go hang some drywall in the house of failure after we're done puittin all those nails.

83z28500ci

hes got a 98 civic ex with a 60 shot.
but ant i dont care, u can belive me or u dont have to belive me, i know the reasons why i lost. but upjet all u want , by the time u might beat me yur motor will be toasted

Rancid87

where are you chimps racing, atco?

GilmourD

I live in North Jersey, so if I hear a nice boom of another Civic blowing up somewhere around me, should i figure it's you guys racing? LOL What I love is "I've got nitrous, I can beat your 5.0" But what they don't realize is without nitrous, they lose, and if both have nitrous, they lose. LOL Bah, cheater juice. Run fuel that won't blow a piston out through your oil pan, will ya???

Perry93TransAm

Tune it and get some traction and the 13s will be easy,(as will Honduhs)

dimented24x7

iTrader: (2)

Hes only good for around 200HP, and a very late 200HP that is. W/ some tuning he will be easy pickins. I would never drive one of those POS hondas again. Have you ever tried to get across a two lane road w/ one of those things??? A 100,000 lb freightliner will be bearing down on me and the engine will just sit there with its thumb up its a$$ at wot. Doesnt do anything till around 4500 RPM.

83z28500ci

yeh i drove his car before. i had fun ,i got 1st-3rd gear. i was suprised

Inwo

OH MAN You're racing his Civic?? Dude. Just give it up. That Honda will hand any thirdgen its *** any day of the WEEK. All he needs is an intake and NoS and he'll be running 10s EASY. Heck add exhaust, slicks, and neons he's in the 8s. Seriously. I wouldn't mess with any Honda on the street or the track because there's NO WAY you can beat them with a thirdgen, especially not with one of those heavy V8s in the front of the car. He'll just take you in the twisties at the end of the strip if he doesn't get you in the 1/4.:rockon:

88IROC350TPI

You guys have a complete misunderstanding of SNJRacer's Honda. He lives in the same area as me and just about everyone knows and respects his car. So what if he needs nitrous to beat V8 cars? His car is daily driven, has no "bling bling", stock stereo system, no fancy lights or body panels, probably gets twice the MPG as us V8 guys, has all the luxeries of a modern car, and yet time and time again hes hanging with the V8 powered cars every weekend. He'll be the first to admit hes not fast BUT for a Honda he gets respect in my book.

Perry93TransAm

And what does he run?

snjracer

i dunno never been to the track.. but when i go i will let you know...

i will be going after i replace the cam springs and retainers...

snjracer

sarcasm is obviously not your strong point...

snjracer

83z28500ci

LMFAO

snjracer

snjracer

we street race... we are too hard core for the track.. (insert sarcasm.. lol) seriously we race on the street..

snjracer

GilmourD

All I'm saying is there's no even playing field. Every time I race an import and win, I feel like I just ran a race between a tank and a Power Wheels. LOL I don't believe in using anything that can destroy your engine. What I believe in is an engine that can destroy yours. I'd love to see a four cyl than can do 300HP at under 4K. My brother just sold a Mustang (white 1980 with a 1986 front end) that could eat any nitrous powered import. 351 Windsor, GT-40 heads, 12.75:1 compression, 4:10 rear gears, World Class T-5. He was running 12.1 in the quarter with it. Sure, you may beat him by a tenth or two with nitrous, but can you do it without?

I don't believe in nitrous. I believe in building a motor to be powerful. You could plug nitrous into anything and make it fast. I saw a Hyundai Accent with nitrous once. I also used to drive one of them. The cars are pieces of poo.

Yeah, my car's heavy and eats gas. But guess what, it earned it's reputation based on what it's done itself. I don't need to cheat to win races. I run on the same fuel every car in the world does. 93 octane.

snjracer

i LOVE domestics... that is the funny part.. id love to have a fast regal or something.. BUT anyway.. i wanted a civic.. cause i LIKE the car.. cheap *** insurance... and honestly (no ones gonna like this... ) but i LOVE the way it looks.. lol and am very happy with it.. heres the thing.. ALL motor STREETABLE civic is just not very fast.. so you need some type of forced induction... blower.. 8 million$$$.. turbo 10 million$$$$.. **** for imports is costly.. so i chose juice.. and never looked back.. it is adjustable, and on only when i want it, i like it. my car will progress a little further, and a little faster, then i will move on to something better and faster (maybe domestic maybe not) i love cars, and speed.. import domestic.. im blind to that.i love a fast cleanly done
i hate rice (domestic or imported lol) i hate ****ty jobs.. and i hate **** that is ghetto rigged, i take my time with my car, and as chris pointed out. people respect it.

88IROC350TPI

I know this is a little pointless and is going to get locked (hopefully) but...

Does your brothers Mustang have heat and air conditioning? Does it idle smooth and quiet? Do those 4.10 gears get him 20+MPG? Does his 12.75:1 compression run on pump gas? I doubt it ...big difference between a RACE car and a DAILY DRIVEN Honda Civic street car. Not even worth comparing.

12.1 in the 1/4 is WAY out of SNJRacer AND 83z28's league ...they are both 14'ish second cars.

GilmourD

His car had heat, but no AC (neither did either of my F-bodies). None of our cars 'cept for the minivan run at 20+ MPG. He was probably running around 11-12 and I know my car when it was stock (LG4) was doing around 14-15. I replaced the Q-jet and actually got 18-19. LOL And his car actually ran on Sunoco 94 as long as he didn't stomp on it too hard. He drove it to and from work every day and went cruising in it. Cost him a couple more dollars a week, but that's what he did. He gets bored easily, so that's why he sold it. He's 19 and already has had a 70, 80, and 90 stang, a 67 Cougar XR7 GT, and now has an 89 LX. Knowing him, he won't leave well enough alone, cuz he's already got the original block out of my dad's 95GT (306, Trickflow intake and heads, big cam, 3.73 gears) on the engine stand. LOL

snjracer

Polecat

When was it decided 14 second cars on the bottle were good times?

Rancid87

so, where exactly do you chimps streetrace? i would like to witness these modern classics duel it out.

snjracer

what do you run....??? let me know im SURE i have an import to run you..

Pony Killer

What kinda imports you know of that race down atco?


Why even bother on the streets? no traps, illegal as hell, endangering ofther folks...

come on down say thursday we can all play ... my formula's slow and the gearbox is shot, but it's fun down the track... 12bucks gets you in and racing, won't get caught by the cops

bring long pants and a helmet if you have it.

snjracer

im all for the track.. once i have something to offer... and your point is VERY valid.. we al know the negatives of street racing all to well.. i need a few last goodies then the track times start.. when we do run the street it is SO late on a road never traveled and it is very safe (not as safe as teh track...)

we will post results saturday

dimented24x7

iTrader: (2)

I would never drive one of those POS hondas again.<-- read your signature out loud... then with a straight face call my car a POS... i doubt you can

FYI snjracer, my last car was, as yours is, a lightly modded honda, except it was an accord with the 2.3l vtec engine. And to be honest, i hated the lack of torque( along with teh montly payments), it really drove me nuts. Granted its very well built car but it just didnt have any kick off the line and i had to spin the snot out of engine to get the car to go. Would've kept it if i had the money but didnt. I personally like my camaro alot better. Suits my personality alot better and it has good torque. Its not fast (best estimate 0-60 and ET using a data logger, VSS data, and numerical methods to obtain each, are 6.6s and 15.1s, respectivly) but i like its road manners alot more. It gets 23-25 mpg, which is better then my honda, and i dont have to go grab some lunch while i wait for the motor to spin up. The 350 takes off as soon as i hit the gas. Hell, ive got nothing against hondas but im partial to the V8's, always have been, always will be.

PS... My car is sh!tty looking but the body is rust free and the driveline is in good working order

Pony Killer

If you live down here, i can garauntee you one thing.. there's no safe roads late at night.... we've got a huge overpopulation of deer.

I live in atco.. and about 1 to two times a year we get someone plastered out on chew road cause they were doing 120 and whacked a deer.. there has yet to be a survivor.


Can't say i never did it when i was young and invincible... but.. i wised up before i became a greasemark on the side of the road.

88IROC350TPI

I'll be the first to admit street racing is stupid but time and time again I find myself doing it ...I've even caught 5-point tickets doing it. We race on roads in the middle of nowhere, big shoulders, and in the middle of the night. We don't act stupid about it. We try to do it as safe as possible.

ChrisFormula355

That is so true man. I used to hit the nitrous button on my Grand Prix just about every single serious race I had because truth is, with the stock 500 caddy, it was barely a 14 second car on teh motor, and that doesn't cut it in Tucson. I decided I wanted to make the car faster on teh motor after leaving the illegals turning down races from LS1's with the excuse "sorry my bottles empty" and i thought that was just pathetic. I redid the motor in it, installed home ported 425 heads, a nice cam, intake, and well tuned carb and the sucker beats the crap out of the same LS1's that I was just barely hanging with when I had nitrous........except I only race on the motor now! In fact I haven't even used the nitrous with the new motor and I'm contemplating just not using it until I finish getting the rest of the car where it should (like better gears and such). I can't tell you how fun it is to redo your motor and have it be faster N/A that it was before with nitrous. Just feels cool Of course when I get my 12 bolt from my friend, pop in a spool, buy some used E.T. streets, step up to the 175HP jets and buy a good electric pump, 10's here I come! That would have to be the lowest budget 10 second car I've ever heard of too.

Polecat

see sig...bring alot of juice!

snjracer

i don't think ANYONE can argue the fact that building your motor is good??..

but you said it your self.. i may not even use the bottle till... implying that you can realize the benifit of a little extra push when you need it... im a little confused about what you are saying though (and it is probably just my lack of domestic knowledge.. but im interested) don't tell me specs cause i won't understand them but, the tunning and building you are doing now.. is it geared towards an NA, or F/I setup... because i know with juice you'd like to do things that would actualy make your car slow off the bottle... like ignition retard, coolder plugs, boosted fuel, retarded timing... and i KNOW that a couple of those can be addressed though things like and MSD igintion retard (i forget what its called but the thing that automaticl cuts the ignition back on bottle... but things like cam profile can be very specific to an NA or nitrous setup?? are you building this car for the bottle?

ede

well this thread sure was fun