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Old 02-19-2001, 10:00 PM
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Got my new times with my new hypertech thermomaster chip!

Whats up everyone just got home from the tracks and i got some new times for ya. Watch out NJ SPEEDSTER IM COMING FOR YA! actually i really do wanna be where you are at NJ SPEEDSTER! NICE RIDE!

14.89@ 90.27mph 60" 2.238 w/2.73 gears

Mods: K&N Filtercharger, K&N X-treme Flow Top Plate, Gutted Cat, Flowmaster 80 series muffler, Edelbrock TES Headers, Hypertech Thermomaster Chip, 160* thermostat.(AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS 3:73 Gears). Im hoping for mid 14@92-93mph 60" 1.996 w/3.73 gears

TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK AND ANY SUGGESTIONS?
Old 02-19-2001, 11:45 PM
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nice times, looks like you'll be running into some traction problems with those 3.73's. Id say start looking at some tires that are up to the task, youll need to cut 2-3 tenths off that 60 foot to really put down some nice times. And may I recommend and intake as well

Once again- nice job.

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12's?? :crossthumbs:
Old 02-20-2001, 12:13 AM
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That's a good time for your mods.Your car and mine are very close. I have 3.42 gears, but I still have factory manifolds/y-pipe and I'm pulling a 14.91 @ 92.9. The only other mods I have that you don't is a MSD coil, and 1/2 phenolic TB spacer. I'm pulling 2.03 60' times, and I'm pretty sure my gears and skinnies that I run of the front attribute to the almost 2 mph more that mine is running. I have a set of Hedman Hedders and Y pipe that I haven't put on yet, but after seeing this, I've got to get 'em on there.

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Old 02-20-2001, 04:23 PM
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What was your 0-60mph? That time is amazing for the mods you have done. These engines are so f-cking unpretictable its stuipd.

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Old 02-20-2001, 05:42 PM
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COME AND GET ME PUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sweet deal on the times. that chip was a big help for ya. all you need is a posi and some gears and you'll really be rockin'.
you do need to start workin on some traction soon though. maybe some 50/50 shocks for the back, lakewoods are less than $40 each through summit.
keep it up, come to my show and we'll see who's king of the LO3's

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I am confused. Compared to NJ, this guy has nothing. But yet he runs a 14.89@ 90.27mph and NJ runs a 14.215@94.30. WTF? Am i missing something here?

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Old 02-20-2001, 11:47 PM
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awe.. whoever deleted that has no sense of humor.
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That is a great time for the mods you've done. Are you sure you're not telling us something like No2? j/k
NJSpeedster, you are king in the L03 world. The best part is that it's still a street car. Not like the car craft 320hp 305 with a cam that would cause your engine to stall at every intersection.
Definatly get some better 60' times and repost the times. Don't put slicks on a stock rear end, you're just gonna break something and spend your money on the tow back home.

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Old 02-21-2001, 06:14 PM
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the reason i can run such good et's with very little mph is that my car comes out of the hole like a scalded cat. i am building my car to be all low end torque, that makes a car quick, top end hp is what makes a car go fast.
if you wanna see a perfect example of mph vs. et check out this link http://www.mycar.net/mafb/ts.htm
you can resort the list by et, mph, or 60ft time. you'll see me on the list, tim mullaney. i am like 140ish in et and even further back in mph, but like 75th in 60ft.
i am just starting to work on the mph thing now that i have the chasis pretty much the way i want it.

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Old 02-24-2001, 01:08 AM
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just to give you a heads up, your going to be running into some problems with that hypertech chip when you get your gears done.

i had the same chip, and these cars have a speed governor at 130 mph. So unless you get the gears in your transmission changed(i'm assuming you have an auto?) you'll only be able to go about 85 mph before the governor shuts you down. Nobody around here that I can find will change thoose gears in the tranny, so I had to get a chip with the speed governor removed.

might want to look into that before you do anything else.


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Old 02-24-2001, 01:27 PM
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i never had a problem when i changed my gears up. you can get the speedo correwction gears from gm if you put in 3.23,3.42,4.73, or 4.10 gears. if they cant get them your local parts store should have them available. napa is always good for stuff like that.
i got mine speedo gears second hand, the first guy that had them bought them from lingenfelter.

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Old 02-24-2001, 07:18 PM
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How the hell are you guys getting such good times with those minor mods? I have the same mods, minus the chip, and I run a sh*tty 10.1 @ 71 mph in the eighth! What am I doing wrong?

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Old 02-24-2001, 07:53 PM
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tab92bird, what did u set your fuel pressure at and y? you havent done anything to increase air flow alot so you dont have a need to increase fuel pressure. too much fuel costs you a ton of power.
also what were your 60ft times. did you hook real good or spin a bunch?
your mph in teh 1/8th ain't to bad, so the et is there if you hook up. i am only coming through the 1/8th at 75 and change yet my time is in the 9.0 and 8.9 range all the time.
et is all about hooking up, not speed.

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Old 02-25-2001, 07:12 AM
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I know Tab. But this 305tbilo3 guy is a VERY RARE case of running such a low time with minor mods. NJ has done a sh*t load to his ride so thats why he is running such low times. Most 305 TBI's do not run like 305tbilo3's car does in the 1/4 mile. I can't explain why his time is so low with these minor mods.


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what are njs mods again?

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my power mods are heads, intake, massaged tb, and 1.6 rockers.
my suspension is still in road racing mode with hoosier quick time pro tires. i have 3.54 gears.
what gets me is his mph. that is very good for a car with so few mods. with some traction his et's could be a lot better.

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Old 02-25-2001, 06:24 PM
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Im still not sure i wanna be really quick off the line but not lose high end wit my gears. Which is best and how much improvement? 3.42 or 3.73 Gears. Thanks.
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I have to give it half throttle off the line at the track, although for some strange reason I never even spin my tires when I floor it on the street.
In response to the fuel pressure, I set it back down to as low as it would go.
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305tbilo3,
the 3.73 gears will be the best bet. gears don't cost you any top end power unless you manage to go waaayyyyy overboard, like 5.18 or something. you will likely pick up trap speed with the gears actually.
tab92bird,
playing with fuel pressure is a good idea to find the ideal balance, and find every last drop of hp. i would suggest spending about 50 bucks on an air/fuel ratio gauge and then messing with the fuel pressure. you want the car to sit in the middle when cruising and just into the rich end of things at WOT.

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I went to the track yesterday with some pretty lackluster results. I drove the car to the track, and about halfway there, the car started feeling weak. It felt OK, at regular cruising speeds but felt flat when I gassed it. When I got to the track, I let the car cool about 45 min while we were working on my brother's truck. I got out on the track, and made my first pass and I went a 16.41 @ 81.2 MPH!!??? The car just would not pull!! I pulled back over to the truck where my brother's truck and my friends' cars were and they were like WTF!!??? I raised the hood and started checking stuff out and come to find out the left injector was barely spraying, I mean almost not at all!! Even when I opened up the throttle it would only dribble out and actually drip down on the butterflies. To say the least it was a disappointing day for me, but I guess that's how it goes sometimes. Has this happened to anyone else??

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