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Old 01-29-2003 | 01:51 AM
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TBI-open air element results

Just wanted to share experience of swapping out my stock air cleaner assembly on my 91 RS 305.

Last nite got antsy and started reading thru all sorts of links and happed upon Pablo's open air element guide.

Very linear and easy to understand. I went to PepBoys and picked up a 14in open air cleaner assembly from Edelbrock for 70.00 and installed it this same day.

Granted, there were dirt clods on my K&N that i had in there, and a cap from a quart of oil that i must have dropped in there a while back .... but after switching to this open filter, i saw a substantial increase in throttle response and overall performance. really really nice. another plus was when i was doing the swap, i found the culprit of my oil leak!

just my 2 bits.
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$70

I paid like $10 or $15
Old 01-29-2003 | 02:00 PM
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Hahah yeah he got ripped.
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i guess the extra money goes to the part where edelbrock is stamped on the top of the cleaner.

now work on your exhaust and gears and you'll be even happier with results
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he didn't get ripped if he got the finned aluminum Elite series... I bought 2 of them with the K&N filter, they were both $80. I did buy the triangle breathers instead of the round ones, I think the round ones are around $65 normally so $70 isn't too bad, but the round ones don't come with the K&N filter.
Old 01-29-2003 | 05:27 PM
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Yeah I only paid $35 at Kragen for my Edelbrock 14" assebally with element. $80 sounds high even for the elite series.
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RESPONSE TO THE THE IGNORANT INDIVIDUALS:

I bought the Edelbrock Elite Series aluminum air cleaner, the round one, WITH the filter.....69.99 @ Pep Boys....a very fair price

BTW, this post was about the results, not the cost of the cleaner assembly
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Look in summit or jegs that price is right on the head.
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TBIfly, I did notice a difference as well. It felt and sounded a lot better. I could really tell a difference when I hit passing gear.

BTW I was agreeing with you as far as price goes. I only wanted to buy a breather once, I didn't want to have to replace the cheapo $15 breather every year when the chrome starts rusting and flaking.
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Jag, I appreciate your comments, rather than those who just poke at the misfortune or ignorance of others rather than adding some helpful information.

What I like as much as the power increase, is that sound it makes when you get on it a bit...as if you were sucking really fast thru a straw, seems as if the air is just aching to jump thru that filter. Using an open air setup, you really can hear the abundance of air availble. The other bonus is getting that gnarly air duct/dryer hose/stock assembly out of the engine compartment.

Next to pretty things up with a polished Vortec manifold to match some new 64cc vortec heads I plan on buying.

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just tell me: when you laid down $70 bones did you know you could get it cheaper? ( i know its an elite series, woopeee)
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Brody,

to your last comment.

Example: do you buy a running car with an LT1 for $500....or do you wait around so you can get it cheaper?
(this is a rhetorical question, please, no more comments)
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Originally posted by TBIfly
RESPONSE TO THE THE IGNORANT INDIVIDUALS:

I bought the Edelbrock Elite Series aluminum air cleaner, the round one, WITH the filter.....69.99 @ Pep Boys....a very fair price

BTW, this post was about the results, not the cost of the cleaner assembly
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Very well put, I was thinking the same thing myself.
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TBIfly, do you plan on getting the elite series valve covers also? They are agood match.
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Brad, I havent really considered it much til you mentioned it. I just wanted an open air element and the Elite series was all that was available at the time.

I think I WILL get the Elite Series valve covers too, after I throw on the vortec heads/manifold.

If I get past the shame of the look of my engine, I'll post pics.
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Do you guys know what size the tbi base is? You know the round opening at the bottom of the air cleaner. I don't know if all open air filter assy. will fit tbi will it?
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Id imagine that some can be different.

Most catalog/store bought open air assemblies are the same as stock (the base of them that is, where the assembly joins the throttle body/carb, or the spacer.

On mine, the only mod I had to make was to pull the MSD Blaster coil off, and remove the brackets on it, so that I could bend one of those brackets at a tighter angle (normally 90*, but I bent it to roughly 50*). I then replaced the modified bracket back on the coil, turned the coil around and installed it 180* from original....I did this so the wires going into the coil would not rub and ultimately arc against my new assembly (since aftermarket assemblies dont generally leave lee-way for that coil).

Ultimately, go to Pepboys or Kragen or whathaveyou, pull off your stock assembly, take it inside and eyeball their products to see if they match, better yet, measure it, and bring your tape measure with you to the auto parts store.

Your real concern should lie in the hood clearance. You know it will fit if, when you place the assembly ( base, filter, and then lid) atop the throttle body, you still have some of the post visible that secures the assembly. If you use a 3 inch element you will be fine, maybe even 4...maybe.
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open air

hey tbifly, do u have a part number on that/
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Originally posted by iroczrockz
Do you guys know what size the tbi base is? You know the round opening at the bottom of the air cleaner. I don't know if all open air filter assy. will fit tbi will it?
5 1/8 inches. most carbs have the same diameter
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Thanks that is exactly what I needed. I was too lazy today to go out and measure.
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Thanks that is exactly what I needed. I was too lazy today to go out and measure.
yup now its in your head
Old 02-01-2003 | 07:53 PM
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Edelbrock pt # 4207
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heres a link to it

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...72&prmenbr=361
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I've been meaning to get an open-element air cleaner, and that looks like the ticket. Is that one Jegs has for $49.99 the same one PepBoys has for $70? Is the filter it comes with a stock one or a K&N? Also, what's the link to Pablo's guide? I'm sure putting on a new air cleaner assembly is easy enough, but a walkthrough would be helpful since I've never done it. Thanks!
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There was a guy on ebay that sold a new basic 14x3 chrome air cleaner for $5.50. I was outbidded in the last minute. That blows. That was a good deal.
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Yellow, the pep boys Aircleaner/filter assembly was the Elite series and came with the Edelbrock filter, you can just buy a K&N or use the old one like i did with a good cleaning
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When you switch from stock to open air element. What do you do with the vacuum line and other goodies plugged into stock air cleaner? My summit air cleaner and K&N are on the way via eBay.
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Plug the one not needed, and drill a hole, or knock out the hole for the sensor...That is it.
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Ok simple enough
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Ok simple enough
Wish I had your 3.42's..LOL....
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Originally Posted by TBIfly
RESPONSE TO THE THE IGNORANT INDIVIDUALS:

I bought the Edelbrock Elite Series aluminum air cleaner, the round one, WITH the filter.....69.99 @ Pep Boys....a very fair price

BTW, this post was about the results, not the cost of the cleaner assembly
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Chill out. They're all right, so how are they ignorant? I bought an Edelbrock #1207, chrome top with logo, same filter, same size. Like 25 bucks after tax and it looks nicer IMO. Guess im ignorant.
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who wrote that guide?
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Looks a lot better, for sure than the ugly snorkel hose...
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i got my open element for 20 bucks at a car show. the results were about the same for me as they were for you. pretty sweet mod for the money
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damn dude, that looks AWESOME.................How much, and where????? Really looks good...
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How did you get it under your hood??????? Looks great, but im not sure it would fit my car.
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are you running 14" x3" open elements? what do you have drop or non drop base, which do you prefer?
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14x3s require a drop based air cleaner. 14x2s do not.
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Re: TBI-open air element results

Hey i know this is an old thread but i bought an edelbrock open air filter the one thats like $30 from autozone not the elite series but it was to tall for the screw since the top was curved i was short by a couple cm's. Another brand open air filter i got reached the screw but rested right on my coils. Does the elite series air filter screw in with out a problem and if so does it clear the coils? This is the one im thinking of trying next. http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip,.../selectZip.htm If it makes a difference i have a 92 camaro rs. Im getting tired of going back and forth to autozone for something this simple....
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Re: TBI-open air element results

Originally Posted by Gallileo60
How did you get it under your hood??????? Looks great, but im not sure it would fit my car.
Heh, it fits.

It's a drop base filter with a throttle body spacer under it. (You can see it in the picture if you look for it)

It BARELY fits under the hood, it's ripped up the foam matting above the wingnut, but no metal-to-metal contact at all.
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Re: TBI-open air element results

I MADE my open element air cleaner for less than 5 dollars.Screw that edelcrap cleaner.I couldn't fine a non drop base air cleaner to save my life so I said screw it and made mine out of 2 air cleaner lids.
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Re: TBI-open air element results

Originally Posted by robertfrank
I MADE my open element air cleaner for less than 5 dollars.Screw that edelcrap cleaner.I couldn't fine a non drop base air cleaner to save my life so I said screw it and made mine out of 2 air cleaner lids.
Pictures please....................
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Re: TBI-open air element results

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tbi/...t-do-open.html
These are old pics but you get the Idea.
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Re: TBI-open air element results

How much better does a open element flow then a dual snorkel air cleaner with fuctional cowl induction "trans am hood" ? ....... Just curious is all.
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Re: TBI-open air element results

What's the absolute width and height I can go with on a Open Element for a L03 with stock hood?
Old 05-16-2007 | 01:04 PM
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Re: TBI-open air element results

hate to bring up an old thread but i figured it would be better than starting a new one, especially considering the topic... what did you all do with the stock air cleaner stud to make it clear the new filter. the one that comes with the air cleaner i bought is straight and is off center unlike the odd shaped stud that comes stock. can anyone help?
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Re: TBI-open air element results

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What's the absolute width and height I can go with on a Open Element for a L03 with stock hood?
hey sorry to hijack the thread. but i saw u had posi... did u install that urself? where did u get it from cuz my car doesnt have posi and i need it
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Re: TBI-open air element results

and hey guys, what do u think of like a generic air cleaner from jeg's? they go for like $25, if they increase ANY performance... then why not?


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