jazzdadss

Just trying to think of a cost effective way to accomplish this. I need to either Lower the rear of the car .75 with factory springs or raise the rear of the car .50 with the Hotchkis springs.

After my LS swap the nose sat too high so I cut 1/2 a coil from the front springs to bring it back down. Well it kinda brought it down a bit more than I wanted. So I tried to match it with 1" springs for the rear. It kinda dropped it about 1.5" so now the rear is lower than the front. I don't realy want a lowered car but the rear just looks stupid either way and I am not sure how to get in the middle?

Any Ideas??

Alice89

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Do you have spring isolators? They make around 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch difference. (meaning taller) People usually remove the isolators to lower there car, however in your case if they are not present I would install a set in the rear and see if it makes your stance better.

hellz_wings

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i second that, if you get 4th gen rear isolators, they are thicker in the rear than the 3rd gen ones so even if your car has em', you could always replace them with the thicker ones and raise the rear slightly.. I don't know by how much but my guess is around 1/4" to 1/2"?

plum92_camaro

http://www.energysuspension.com/prod...-Isolator.html

Not sure if these will work but worth looking into.

jazzdadss

Thanks, yes mine have upper isolators but no lowers. The fourth gen ones you speak of are they the uppers? Reason being is that I have never seen any lower isolators on any third gen I have had??? But I think I saw some on the internet? So lowers exist?

Alice89

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I'm 99% sure there are no lower isolators. However if you want to try out fourth gen isolators over your third gen ones, you should notice a ride height increase of 1/4 - 1/2 inch.

plum92_camaro

I've never seen or heard of lowers. My understanding is the rubber isolators were only to stop the transfer of road noise to the body.

hellz_wings

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Interesting about the lowers.. Maybe that would make the ride less harsher perhaps? LOL

Alice89

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If that's why GM put isolators in then they failed, I removed mine and notice no difference what so ever in ride quality. I'm running heater hose and there is also no audible road noise increase.

I was under the impression that they where in place to keep the spring from rusting to the spring perch? That and most importantly to keep the metal on metal squeaking at bay.

jazzdadss

I got these #s from LS1tech. They are for a fourth gen.
uppers # 10290379
Lowers # 10247105

I ordered the lowers from the chevy house today and they will be here tomorow. I will let you know how they do. Thanks all!

Alice89

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Cool, and good luck on the install! Let us know if your Camaro's ride height evens out.

BTW, I honestly didn't know there were lower isolators.

redneckjoe

heres a way to raise or lower your car on the cheap.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...questid=584456

jazzdadss

Thanks Joe but those things are just plain BAD! Won't use them ever. Have you ever seen what they do to a spring over time

jazzdadss

Looks like the new lower isolators are just shy of 1/4 inch.


Lower Isolator mounted on axle. Fit perfect.



Overall heighth of the upper isolators, stock 3rd gen right about 1.5 inches. Anyone got a 4th gen upper to measure?



Overall, the rear went from 27.5 at the wheel lip to 26.5. This is with car unloaded (no junk in the trunk) and a full tank of gas. This did level it out. I will ride like this for a bit and if I need to raise it a bit more may be someone can chime in with a measurement of the 4th gen upper Isolator.

jazzdadss

4th gen uppers, anyone got a measurement?

jazzdadss

TTT, Anyone?

jazzdadss

OK, finaly had some time to do some research on this. The part # for the upper spring isolator is the same # from 1982-2002. 3rd and 4th gen F-bodies use the same one so there is no difference in heigth. Guess I will be putting the factory rear springs back in and trying some new V6 springs in the front. We'll see if this makes it sit right.

Richboll

How about air shocks? I have them on my El Camino and they maintain whatever amount of air that I put into them. Just a thought.

hellz_wings

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Hmmm.. How come they never put a lower isolator from the factory..? It would appear that it would reduce the metal to metal contact on the axle and spring, and maybe on the a-arm to spring as well.

theoutlaw

It'll cost a lot more but if got adjustable coil-overs for the rear you could easily set it where you want it.

jazzdadss

Saddly I think we are gonna just pick it back up. I put the factory coils back in the rear and Will try V6 front springs. I just dont like the ride charactoristics with it lowered.....