Suspension and Chassis Questions about your suspension? Need chassis advice?

BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-30-2011, 10:50 AM
  #1  
Member

Thread Starter
 
ambainb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: buffalo ny
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 iroc
Engine: Iron 408 LS3 combo
Transmission: Ram10 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt :)
BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

ive been searching for a set of belltech 2 in drop spindles for a while now and thought i was out of luck... i found a company called vividracing.com that still has them forsale, i thought that it was a typing error because i called belltech today and they said they are no longer avalible... after speaking with vividracing they told me they can be special orderd for $255 but will take 3 too 4 weeks to be made, i called belltech again to verify and they said they DO make drop spindles for our cars if vividracing special orders them because they are one of there biggest vendors havnt orderd a set yet but thought a few people here would like to know
Old 11-30-2011, 11:27 AM
  #2  
Junior Member

 
wretched737's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 75
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Thats an awesome bit of info, let us know how they turn out, i may go investigate this now
Old 11-30-2011, 01:01 PM
  #3  
Member
 
lolvtec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Milford,Ohio
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 camaro RS convertible
Engine: EFI 383 150shot nitrous.
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2:73...
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

if its the same vivid racing id watch out they ****ed me over in az i had my turbo civic there and my turbo went "missing" im not sure if its the same place or not
Old 11-30-2011, 05:27 PM
  #4  
Member

 
rlewi771's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 350 ZZ4
Transmission: TKO-600
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

hmmm...sounds odd that the manufacturer says they dont make them anymore but a retailer says that they special order them from the manufacturer... $255 seems a bit cheap as well, i think I paid 500+ for my racecrafts. if it does all turn out to be legit then awesome, it just sounds weird.
Old 11-30-2011, 05:29 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Project-RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Originally Posted by rlewi771
hmmm...sounds odd that the manufacturer says they dont make them anymore but a retailer says that they special order them from the manufacturer... $255 seems a bit cheap as well, i think I paid 500+ for my racecrafts. if it does all turn out to be legit then awesome, it just sounds weird.

do you have pics of your car with them installed? i have 2" lowering springs already and was thinking of getting those. any info or reviews would be great. thanks
Old 11-30-2011, 05:44 PM
  #6  
Member

 
rlewi771's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 350 ZZ4
Transmission: TKO-600
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

The picture of the car with the cover on it shows the ride height of the car with newer (not sagging) stock replacement springs and the Racecraft 2'' drop spindle. The car was so low with just the drop spindles that I wasn't even able to drive it. I hadn't planned on that, so I ended up buying Ground Control weight jacks which their kit includes a coil spring and an adjustable perch that allows you to lower or raise the ride height yourself. I used the weight jacks so that I could raise the car up enough to be driveable. As far as the quality and construction of the racecraft spindles, they are excellent. I have had no issues with them and my car sees a good bit of road course racing / track days. I still am happy that I bought them even though I ended up having to use the weight jacks as well to make it work; being able to fine tune and set your ride height at all 4 corners is priceless in my opinion. The last picture is a current picture of the car with the weight jacks dialed in to where I like it. I dont know if everyone has the same problem of the car being too low with just the installation of the drop spindles or not, but thats what I ran into. You definitely could not run your lowering springs along with the drop spindles.
Attached Thumbnails BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES-dropspindleheight.jpg   BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES-img_0192.jpg   BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES-sam_0995-800x600-.jpg  
Old 11-30-2011, 05:48 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Project-RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

this is my car with the 2" springs (not settled in yet):



Old 12-01-2011, 12:29 AM
  #8  
Member

Thread Starter
 
ambainb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: buffalo ny
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 iroc
Engine: Iron 408 LS3 combo
Transmission: Ram10 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt :)
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Originally Posted by rlewi771
hmmm...sounds odd that the manufacturer says they dont make them anymore but a retailer says that they special order them from the manufacturer... $255 seems a bit cheap as well, i think I paid 500+ for my racecrafts. if it does all turn out to be legit then awesome, it just sounds weird.

thats what i thought but i called belltech after to verify and the said its an acception since vividracing is one of there biggest vendors but it would take a few weeks to have them made
Old 12-01-2011, 12:36 AM
  #9  
Member

Thread Starter
 
ambainb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: buffalo ny
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 iroc
Engine: Iron 408 LS3 combo
Transmission: Ram10 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt :)
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

car does look low might make me re consider... mine sits at 28in at the bottom of the fender with worn springs, in a perfect world exactly 2 in less or 26in would be great but yours looks like its gotta be closer to 25"
Old 12-01-2011, 01:44 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
lemons racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Grizzly Flats, CA
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 86 Camaro, IROC springs & bars
Engine: Mild 350,Q-jet,headers
Transmission: M-21, 12#flywheel
Axle/Gears: 98 7.5, 3.73 torsen.
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

I'm going to through in my 2 cents worth here, some dealers & manufactures say that they will make a part for you, but what they won't tell you is they wait until they have enough orders, say 50 or so before it's actually is done. I've canceled parts orders after 4 months because they keep telling you 2 or 3 more weeks. But you never really know, good luck.
Old 12-01-2011, 10:26 AM
  #11  
Member

 
rlewi771's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 350 ZZ4
Transmission: TKO-600
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Wow, thats a great find, I wish I had known that, woulda saved me some cash. I dont know if I had an atypical result to using the drop spindles or if others have ran into the same problem..but I'd have to think the manufacturers that make the drop spindle wouldn't make it so low that the car couldn't be driven. Maybe there was something up with my suspension that I was unaware of. I cant remember if the rubber spring insulators were in there or not on the stock stuff when I took it apart. Maybe if they were missing thats the reason why I was sitting a little too low. I also did a brake upgrade at the time which pushed the tires closer to the fender which would cause the wheel to rub sooner than if it were sitting back in its original location. All that aside, I love the drop spindles, I think they are invaluable in what they do for your front end suspension geometry. good luck either way
Old 12-04-2011, 12:12 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
stereojnky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Augusta, Ga
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1992 Rs
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Originally Posted by lemons racer
I'm going to through in my 2 cents worth here, some dealers & manufactures say that they will make a part for you, but what they won't tell you is they wait until they have enough orders, say 50 or so before it's actually is done. I've canceled parts orders after 4 months because they keep telling you 2 or 3 more weeks. But you never really know, good luck.
If that's the case, it shouldn't be too hard to get a group buy going. I'm in if it's legit and don't mind waiting a bit.
Old 12-09-2011, 06:15 AM
  #13  
Member
iTrader: (3)
 
BBCpoweredZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Absolutely. Group buy FTW!!! Let me know. Front end is next on the list
Old 02-04-2012, 09:53 AM
  #14  
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Adrenaline1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Holland, MI
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1982 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 N/A
Transmission: Manual 4 Speed
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Out of curiousity, has anyone else looked into this? Also, has anyone else had the problem of the car being to low to drive using the spindles? Is it possible a set of new stock springs would solve the problem? Thanks
Old 02-04-2012, 03:30 PM
  #15  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (15)
 
//<86TA>\\'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 12,666
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 48 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

real 2" drop spindles would make most cars too low to drive everyday, if at all. however, if the car is already that low, the spindles would help return the front suspension geometry to a more correct place.
Old 02-04-2012, 04:28 PM
  #16  
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Adrenaline1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Holland, MI
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1982 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 N/A
Transmission: Manual 4 Speed
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Do the Belltechs give you a 2 inch drop? That was another question i ment to ask. AJE spindles do like 1.5 which is a bit nicer imo.
Old 02-08-2012, 12:14 PM
  #17  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
hellz_wings's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 2,337
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28
Engine: TPI 310ci (LB9)
Transmission: Custom Rebuilt 700R4 - 2600 Stall
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, 3.73 Eaton Limited-Slip
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

1.5" would be the best of both worlds in my opinion.. 2" is ALOT but it depends on everyone's car (weight, spring condition, spring height, existence of spring insulators, ground clearance underneath, wheel size, etc.)
Old 02-08-2012, 06:21 PM
  #18  
Member
 
aqualordx93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Camaro Iroc Z
Engine: V8 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

"so I ended up buying Ground Control weight jacks which their kit includes a coil spring and an adjustable perch that allows you to lower or raise the ride height yourself."

How do you install Ground Control Weight Jacks, ive been looking into them and i just dont see how they get installed
Old 02-08-2012, 06:25 PM
  #19  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Enschede, Netherlands
Posts: 5,357
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

fronts are installed between crossmember and spring. It's actually a modified jacker installed upside down. The cup that the GC it has the spring sitting on is what normally welds to the chassis and the side that sits in the X member is what normally traps the spring. The rear is just a coil over conversion sleeve mounted in the spring perches on the axle.
Old 02-08-2012, 06:39 PM
  #20  
Member
 
aqualordx93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Camaro Iroc Z
Engine: V8 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

so no modifications are needed for the GC? just bolt in basically? Im guessing you dont need springs either, since the GC are the spring.
Old 02-08-2012, 08:04 PM
  #21  
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
stereojnky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Augusta, Ga
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1992 Rs
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Originally Posted by hellz_wings
1.5" would be the best of both worlds in my opinion.. 2" is ALOT but it depends on everyone's car (weight, spring condition, spring height, existence of spring insulators, ground clearance underneath, wheel size, etc.)
I guess this is why most people recommend Weight Jacks for our cars.
Old 02-08-2012, 08:07 PM
  #22  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Enschede, Netherlands
Posts: 5,357
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Originally Posted by aqualordx93
so no modifications are needed for the GC? just bolt in basically? Im guessing you dont need springs either, since the GC are the spring.

GCs are not the springs, you need shorter springs front and rear. GC kit comes with them, choose rate
Old 02-08-2012, 08:33 PM
  #23  
Member
 
aqualordx93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Camaro Iroc Z
Engine: V8 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Ok. im looking into getting some over the summer along with Koni Yellows and other suspension pieces.
Old 02-08-2012, 08:36 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Project-RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

anyone have the links of the drop spindles? im interested in buying some
Old 02-08-2012, 08:41 PM
  #25  
Member
 
aqualordx93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Camaro Iroc Z
Engine: V8 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

http://products.vividracing.com/bell...1013836346.php

thats them i believe
Old 02-08-2012, 11:13 PM
  #26  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
DBLTKE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Have you actually tried to place an order? Once you click "buy" it takes you to a page that says "product not found."
Old 02-09-2012, 06:51 AM
  #27  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
hellz_wings's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 2,337
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28
Engine: TPI 310ci (LB9)
Transmission: Custom Rebuilt 700R4 - 2600 Stall
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, 3.73 Eaton Limited-Slip
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Originally Posted by DBLTKE
Have you actually tried to place an order? Once you click "buy" it takes you to a page that says "product not found."
It works for me but guess what? I live in Canada and "apparently" it's going to cost 285$ for ground shipping LMAOOOOOOOO I don't know about this part but the shipping cost sure is a scam
Old 02-23-2012, 10:20 AM
  #28  
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Adrenaline1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Holland, MI
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1982 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 N/A
Transmission: Manual 4 Speed
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Vivid does not carry and CANNOT get the drop spindles. I asked, they checked, and said there was nothing offered by belltech anymore.
Old 02-29-2012, 07:20 PM
  #29  
Junior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
88GTAChuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Windermere, FL
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES

Looks like there's a set on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Belltech-2-d...#ht_500wt_1413
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Cam-aro
Camaros Wanted
2
11-12-2015 03:35 PM
Galaxie500XL
Suspension and Chassis
2
10-01-2015 01:05 PM



Quick Reply: BELLTECH DROP SPINDLES



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:43 AM.