I put 1 inch drop springs

 

wouldnt cut FACTORY springs but the lowering springs and the moogs are okay by me.

 

I'll be lowering it more eventually. After messing around with my GTI for the last year its made my Camaro look like a monster truck. I need to get shorter and stiffer springs all around plus at least dropped spindles and LCARB's.

 

This car is gorgeous! I love the color scheme, what's the name of the color @>Flrtin1? I would say the hottest car here!

 

This is incorrect. When you cut coils off of a spring you increase the spring rate. Think of a coil spring as a bar that you are trying to bend. For a given diameter and material, a longer bar is easier to bend than a shorter bar. A spring is basically a bar wound into a coil. But don't take my word for it, the math is here http://www.engineersedge.com/spring_comp_calc_k.htm

Cutting springs is perfectly acceptable as long as you do not overheat the metal which will change its rigidity. This is why you want to use a cut off wheel and work slowly and never use a torch.

You can work out your new spring rate by simply counting the reduction of active coils and doing the math.

I have done this very thing to achieve a spring rate in the low to mid 800s from moog 5664 springs.

 

Regardless whether it increases or decreases the spring rate, it's still wrong to me personally. For how cheap a nice set of aftermarket springs is, it's dumb to go cutting your stockers. Plus, with 25+ year old springs, I'm sure they've had better days, like back in the 80's. The better aftermarket spring companies put a lot of R&D so that you get an out of the box performance spring. Your average joe cutting them in his garage will never get the same result. If your only after looks, then by all means cut your stock springs. It's just something I personally have never done, nor would ever do.

 

It's cheaper to cut a set of stock, stock replacement, or generic springs than it is to buy a set of "aftermarket" springs. When it comes to a spring the only thing you need to know is the wire diameter, coil diameter, active coils, and rigidity of the steel.
A spring does not change its characteristics based upon what color it is, what brand name is printed on it, or how much you paid for it.
Want to stiffen up the ride and maintain factory balance? Increase the front and rear rate while maintaining the front to rear spring rate ratio. This is not hard to figure out. And here's another tidbit for you, springs do not change their rate as they age.
I have cut stock replacement springs up front. I did it in my garage. I worked out the math of what kind of spring rate front and rear I needed to achieve the kind of handling I wanted. The car is purpose built for handling. I consistently set the fastest time of the night at local time attack events. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgMInrafGQ - pay attention to the time gaps. Stock LB9. More videos on my page.

 

I can find Eibachs, but are Hotchkis and any other brands still in production?

 

Hotchkis def should be since they still sell all thier suspension parts. I think BMR also makes springs. H&R makes good stuff too. Theres a ton of spring companies out there.

 

There's also a lot of companies out there like Suspension Spring Specialists (SSS) that mainly cater to racers. You have complete control over the exact spring rates, length diameter, etc. They're usually pretty cheap and you can order the springs individually as well.

 

^link to SSS please

 

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/11059421@N07/5889635820/http://www.flickr.com/photos/11059421@N07/5889635820/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/11059421@N07/, on Flickr

 

Needs more photoshopped stripes. And even more photoshopped negative camber on that solid axle rear.

 

You noticed that negative camber too? I was like either he has a majorly bent axle or something is up here lol

 

http://www.pagedezigner.com/bluecoil/2009/index2.htm

 

LOVE THE FORMULA!!! where did u get them rims at?

 

They are the ronal firehawk rims. They don't make them anymore and if you are lucky enough to find a used set your going to be paying BIG bucks.

 

Here is my car before and after I painted the side turn signals with Nightshade paint, and yes they do illuminate in the correct colors. Let me know what you think.

 

Stance is nice. I like the door handles. Did u do a write-up?

 

This is what it looks like with the new paint.

 

love the tail pipes! ive been toying with this idea for years now. this is like an ss camaro right?

 

Looks real sharp Dean, I like that you went with the dark wheels.

 

Another Pro-Kit with 17" TT2's. Love the ride of the Pro-Kit with the KYB GR2's.

 

cut springs 3/4 coil in front and 1/2 coil in back i think.

 

looks good dude

 

Where can a fella get drop spindles. Someone in this thread has to know.

 

racecraft makes em IIRC but idk where you'd buy em..google it

 

Big difference! I like it. I've been toying with the idea on my black 89 GTA as well. Did you clear coat em or just use the niteshade only?

 

I've got 2 'maros. This one is 1986 IROC-Z, 305 TPI. Has K&N's, Flowmaster 80, Edelbrock Adjustable Pan Hard Bar, and Eibach Sportline Springs lowering front 1.5" and rear 1.6". These pics were shot the day I installed the srpings. Since then it has settled in a bit more. Drives like its on rails.

(Other 'maro is 2011 Imperial Blue Metallic 1LT/RS, MRT 2.0 axle back exhaust, Cold Air Inductions Intake, custom bumble bee dark silver metallic rallye stripes, custom gray suede interior, Billet Racing Pedals, T-Rex Billet Phantom Grille (upper & lower), T-Rex chrome rear diffuser insert trim, Defenderworx chrome gill inserts, Rockford Fosgate amps and speakers...T100-4 highs amp driving RF Power 6x9's in the rear and Diamond Audio componets in the front, 500-1BD sub amp driving RF P3412 12" sub in custom box with custom Chevy bowties in opaque acrylic backlight with blue LEDs). Planning to get Phadt suspension kit with springs (1.5" drop) and front/rear sway bars.

 

Nice ride!!!!

 

My custom 1992 RS Camaro 5.0.

 

Sharky537, looks good man! Do you run rear isolators at all?

 

Here's a picture of the car lowered... in motion :P

 

Just a suttle drop
sportlines all around


Before


AFTER

 

your sir, have a gorgeous car

 

eibach sportlines. can't wait to see the 18's on it....next month.

 

I wanna drop mine down a bit too but my tie-rod ends are really close to touching the rims as is. What do u guys suggest?

 

thanks

 

how close? ive seen people grind on the tierod end to clearance then a little.

 

spacers would help, no?

 

lowering has little effect on tie rod clearance.... you can always grind A LITTLE, off the tie rod to gain a littel room if needed, a LITTLE.

 

I have 2" spacers on the front. So if I lowered the car the tierod clearance would be the same as I have right now?

 

either be the same or a mm or 2 closer..

 

No clearcoat. Just Nightshade. I sanded 'em down starting at 600 grit and ending with 2000 grit. Then put a few coats of nightshade. I'm really happy with how they came out.

 

So many fine looking rides in this thread.I think i posted some of mine earlier,but here is another.

 

My 88 Trans Am GTA, eibach sportline , 3/4 cut in the front

 

And thanks to all of you guys that post pictures of your car and inspired me for my new stance

 

I just installed some Ksport 1.75" drop springs.

 

pro-kit with no isolators....