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Old 07-05-2009 | 09:27 PM
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Car: 89 Formula, 85 Trans AM & 91 Bird
Engine: 5.0 CARB, 5.7L TPI & 3.1L V6
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Gettin' it together

I went out and bought a set of Blisten Shocks from Autozone. I paired them up with a set of Sportline Eibach Springs. Seems to be that everyone here is asking what's good and what works, I guess it might be a little too late for me to ask, since I already bought the parts. I plan to pair this together with my Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace. Anyone have any Experience/Knowledge regarding these parts?

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Old 07-16-2009 | 03:40 PM
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Car: 89 Formula, 85 Trans AM & 91 Bird
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Re: Gettin' it together

Someone should delete this if no one is going to answer...
Old 07-17-2009 | 03:05 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Haven't done the strut tower brace yet - but I love my Bilsteins and Eibachs! Although, I got the Eibach Pro Kit instead of the Sportlines. Since you'll have it all apart, I'd reccomend new sway bar bushings, end link bushings, tie rod ends and ball joints if it's not been done yet. I spent a whole day on mine, and replaced all these with the new springs and struts, and did poly bushings all around, and the difference was night and day!
Old 07-26-2009 | 02:51 PM
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Car: 89 Formula, 85 Trans AM & 91 Bird
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Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt & 10 Bolt X2
Re: Gettin' it together

I replaced the Sway Bar End Links with a red set from Energy Suspension, How much should I tighten them??? (The book said 14lbs, the instructions said till they plump up) I also want to know what size sway bar I have, since I want to replace the sway bar bushings too. What is the Eibach Pro Kit? I heard there are a couple different Blisten Shocks for our cars, Anyone familiar??? Thanks to those who have helped me by answering my pesky questions.

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Old 07-26-2009 | 03:12 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

2 ways to figure out the sway bar diameter. 1st an easiest buy a micrometer. 2nd way if you have a good set of over sized wrenches slide the wrench over till you find the right size.
Old 07-26-2009 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Thanks for the info. Any more Help???
Old 07-29-2009 | 04:33 PM
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Car: 89 Formula, 85 Trans AM & 91 Bird
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Re: Gettin' it together

Is the Pan-hard bar, removed while the car is jacked up or on the ground???
Old 07-29-2009 | 05:09 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

i have removed it both ways, probably want to have it up on jack stands, but with the rear tires still touching the ground, to keep it from moving around to much
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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by SixSeriesCSi
What is the Eibach Pro Kit.
The Pro Kit is only a 1 inch drop - I believe the Sportlines are a 2inch drop.
Old 08-02-2009 | 08:28 PM
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Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt & 10 Bolt X2
Re: Gettin' it together

Which is stiffer the Pro Kit, or the Sportlines??? Has anyone installed an Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace???
Old 08-02-2009 | 08:30 PM
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt & 10 Bolt X2
Re: Gettin' it together

Sway Bar End links, Any Idea on the torque specs???Previous post up above...
Old 02-17-2011 | 01:01 PM
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Car: 89 Formula, 85 Trans AM & 91 Bird
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt & 10 Bolt X2
Re: Gettin' it together

I will be adding a UMI Chromoly Performance Pan Hard Bar. With Double Adjustable Ends and Rota Joints!

Still looking for the Torque Specs for my Sway Bar Endlinks?
Intrested to hear if anyone has run the Blisten Test/Heavy Duty?
Spring Rates for Stock, Sportlines, and Pro Kit?

Thank You. Have Good Day!

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Old 02-17-2011 | 02:51 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Don't know about spring rates - sorry. Wanted to let you know I did install an Edelbrock STB, I could tell a difference with it. I'm carbed, and the Edelbrock was a decent 3-point piece for a carbed motor, plus I got it used and cheap.

That panhard bar you chose ought to be a nice piece - overkill for me though - too fancy and too many $$$. I'm running a Edelbrock adj panhard bar - only adjusts on one end, not sure why some bars adjust on both (seems like overkill to me) - but I've had no issues at all with my el-cheapo Edelbrock. I'm strictly street though - no racing here, just fun in the city, maybe the higher priced fancy schmancy bars are beneficial at the strip - all I know is my wallet enjoyed the savings, andf my bar works great on the street.
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
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Re: Gettin' it together

I found that Blisten Test and Blisten Heavy Duty Shocks/Struts are the same thing (Same Part Number).

Just Purchased...

UMI Performance Cast/Camber Plates
UMI Performance Lower Control Arms out of Chromoly with Double Adjustable Ends/Rota Joints. (Plus the Hardware Kit)

Shipping out on Wednesday!

Stay Tuned!!!
Old 06-12-2011 | 04:38 PM
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
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Re: Gettin' it together

Added a UMI Chromoly 22mm Rear Sway Bar...

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Old 08-14-2011 | 01:07 AM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Added a set of UMI Chromoly Double Adjustable Lower Control Arms with Rota Joints. UMI Cast and Camber Plates.
Old 08-14-2011 | 06:50 AM
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Re: Gettin' it together

[QUOTE=SixSeriesCSi;4854489]Just Purchased...UMI Performance Cast/Camber Plates.../QUOTE]

Good idea. The above will be more effective in combination with the STB than the OE mount would be.

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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by SixSeriesCSi
Which is stiffer the Pro Kit, or the Sportlines???
Pro Kit: 714 lb/in linear front 1 inch lower front
109/177 lb/in progressive rear 1 inch lower rear

Sportline: 700 lb/in linear front 1.6 inch lower front
80/137 lb/in progressive rear 1.3 inch lower rear
Old 08-14-2011 | 02:17 PM
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
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Re: Gettin' it together

My only complaint in regards to the Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace is the mounting points to the actual strut towers. I don't like the idea of having to drill the necessary holes. I prefer the the UMI Strut Tower Brace Design that incorporates the brace mounting points with the bolts used for the actual strut towers. It's adjustable too.
Old 08-14-2011 | 02:28 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by SixSeriesCSi
Has anyone installed an Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace?
The following has info/pics:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...-3-pt-stb.html

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Old 08-15-2011 | 06:57 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Here is a shot of the Adjustable Rota-Joint from the Chromoly Pan Hard Bar, Enjoy...
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Old 08-15-2011 | 09:22 PM
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
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Re: Gettin' it together

Here is a shot of the Passangers Side Rear Shock. You can see a glipse of the UMI Chromoly Rear Lower Control Arm with those Wonderful Adjustable Rota Joints, Enjoy...
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Old 08-16-2011 | 08:53 AM
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Car: 89 Formula, 85 Trans AM & 91 Bird
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt & 10 Bolt X2
Re: Gettin' it together

Here is a shot of the Passenger side Cast and Camber Plate, Enjoy...
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Old 08-18-2011 | 10:35 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by Reid Fleming
Pro Kit: 714 lb/in linear front 1 inch lower front
109/177 lb/in progressive rear 1 inch lower rear

Sportline: 700 lb/in linear front 1.6 inch lower front
80/137 lb/in progressive rear 1.3 inch lower rear
Where did you get the spring rate info. I couldnt find this at all when I was doing my spring research and choose someone else since I couldnt find this info?
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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by SixSeriesCSi
Added a UMI Chromoly 22mm Rear Sway Bar...
If this is a street car send that bar back and use a V6 bar from a 4th gen.
Only use the fat rear bar if your ditching the front bar and going drag racing or are going to run a road course.

I run the little bar on the street and its sooo much better, no hoping around corners when you hit a bump..
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
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Re: Gettin' it together

TTOP350 Could you enlighten me with more information on the size of your Rear Sway Bar.

I wish UMI would include New U Bolts/Washers/Nuts and Mounting Brackets for their Rear Sway Bar's. I had to order them seprately ($65.00)
Old 09-16-2011 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Here it is, UMI 22MM Chromoly Rear Sway Bar.



Enjoy...
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Old 10-06-2011 | 06:57 PM
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Transmission: T-5/700R4/700R4
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Re: Gettin' it together

I've decided to go with Black Suspension Components for the Front. Just added a UMI Front Steering Brace. Waiting for a Group Buy on those Wonderful New K-Members...
Old 12-22-2011 | 12:33 AM
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Re: Gettin' it together

I wish this thread was a bit more coordinated.

None the Less, Here is a shot of the UMI Front Steering Brace.

Enjoy...
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Damn, forgot the photo...
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Re: Gettin' it together

Hey SixSeriesCSi.

Thanks for keeping this UMI thread going. Your car should be working pretty well with all these goodies.

We are working hard to finalize the new k-member. It's going to be pretty sweet.

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Hey Ramey I noticed the Front Steering Brace I returned in the Scratch and Dent Sale...
Old 12-22-2011 | 10:04 AM
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Was it scratched and dented?
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Re: Gettin' it together

The first one shipped appeared to have some Defects in the Powder Coating. I think you guys do an Excellent job in Powder Coating your Products, because of that I didn't want to have a piece that didn't look as good as the others. (I believe I posted a reply to my first Return/Exchange Experience with UMI)
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Re: Gettin' it together

Just purchased a set of UMI Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets. They are Bolt-In. I don't plan to throw them on just yet, though...

My 9 Bolt is leaking from the Pinion Bearing, Gear Oil is thick messy stuff.
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Re: Gettin' it together

Here is a shot of the UMI Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets, Enjoy...
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Re: Gettin' it together

Ugh forgot the Photo Again, Sorry...
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Awesome. Can't wait to see them on your car!

Thanks for choosing UMI for all your traction needs.

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Re: Gettin' it together

I sold my Edelbrock Three Point Strut Tower Brace to one of the ThirdGen.Org members...
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So I assume you are building a high HP, hi torque street machine?
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Re: Gettin' it together

That's the plan....
Old 12-02-2012 | 03:49 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Christmas came early...

Here is a shot of the UMI Performance Strut Tower Brace, Enjoy!!!
Old 04-24-2015 | 03:01 AM
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Re: Gettin' it together

I sold my Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets to one of the ThirdGen.Org members...

The new design from UMI allows for more adjustability of the Lower Control Arm.
Old 04-25-2015 | 08:29 AM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by SixSeriesCSi
I sold my Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets to one of the ThirdGen.Org members...

The new design from UMI allows for more adjustability of the Lower Control Arm.




If your sticking with your eibachs and don't plan on running something like weight jacks to adjust your ride height...not sure you really need MORE adjustability as your going to set it once and be done with it.
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Re: Gettin' it together

what you get is not adjustability but abilitiy to run different springs to get to handle the way you want it, ajusting the ride height is a added bonus,

weight jacks are over kill for the street but then again a 300+ hp sbc or lsx swap is also and whats any fun if it isnt overkill but we really dont need it lol

but eibach springs will satisfy majority of people on the forum for street use i never was happy with sportlines and or dropzone/intrax or what ever new name they have now
Old 04-28-2015 | 10:25 PM
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Re: Gettin' it together

Originally Posted by CharcoalBird
If your sticking with your eibachs and don't plan on running something like weight jacks to adjust your ride height...not sure you really need MORE adjustability as your going to set it once and be done with it.

It would be quite a shame to throw all these components together and have a regular shock and spring combo... The plan is to eventually switch over to Weight Jacks and different Shocks with more adjustability. Initially, I'd wanted to go with coil overs but the front of our cars are not set up to handle that amount of weight without additional bracing.
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