Tires for winter and snow
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Tires for winter and snow
I know it is a sin punishable by death in 51 states plus canada, but i have no other choice then to drive my t/a in the NY salt-filled winter (let the fire begin)
So, sence the 275/50r16's are street tires, and from what i found out this morning, even a millimeter of gas spins them out with the slightest amount of snow or slush, so, i decided to change tires.
i have 2 high profile spares on 15 inch rims, so i decided to get rif of the high profile rubbers and put on some good ones.
At my school we got a doner car, a nissan pathfinder, and its gettin trashed in a week, so i took the liberty of taking the tires.
there 245/80r15's, and the rims for the high pros are 15's, so i put them on.
i have just enough clearance from hitting the inside of the wheel well, and the stance of the car looks ****ing amazing.
dont know if anyone ever put SUV tires on the rear of their birds or cams, but, from what ive had success with the past day, idk if it would be a bad idea.
its 15 bucks per rim at like any tire shop, and find yourself some good quality suv tires, and reak the success.
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So, sence the 275/50r16's are street tires, and from what i found out this morning, even a millimeter of gas spins them out with the slightest amount of snow or slush, so, i decided to change tires.
i have 2 high profile spares on 15 inch rims, so i decided to get rif of the high profile rubbers and put on some good ones.
At my school we got a doner car, a nissan pathfinder, and its gettin trashed in a week, so i took the liberty of taking the tires.
there 245/80r15's, and the rims for the high pros are 15's, so i put them on.
i have just enough clearance from hitting the inside of the wheel well, and the stance of the car looks ****ing amazing.
dont know if anyone ever put SUV tires on the rear of their birds or cams, but, from what ive had success with the past day, idk if it would be a bad idea.
its 15 bucks per rim at like any tire shop, and find yourself some good quality suv tires, and reak the success.
Questions, comments, flames? is it a retarted idea?
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also, think it would look good to put the SUV tires on the front?
is it even possible? do i have clearance?
is it even possible? do i have clearance?
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Biggest I've ran are 235/ 75 and they barely fit, of course my car is really low compared to most. I got that size because they were cheap and the only size left, I doubt 245/80 will fit my car. They might be fine on yours since you had the 16" wheels stock, the gear box wont allow the tires to turn as far. It's worth a try if you can get the taller tires up front it should put more weight on the back and be better off in the snow. I'd like to see some pic's too.
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Big wide tires don’t go as well as narrow tires on snow and ice. If you watch rally racing at all you’ll see they run ridiculously narrow tires for the snow stages. The reason is you need to get as much weight per square inch of tire on the ground. This helps the tires grip the ice and dig into the snow. The other half of the equation is a set of good snow tires. There just isn’t a replacement for a set of soft grippy snow tires. Studded tires are even better if they’re legal in your state. If you want to use your stock rims I suggest looking at some 225/55/16 tires, they came stock on Subaru Outbacks. I got some hankook W401 tires for 75$ a piece for the slightly smaller 205-55-16’s that are stock on my legacy GT. They made a world of difference even with AWD. I can now stop and turn as well as it goes. I’ve mounted those 225’s on an 8” iroc rim before, they fit fine. If you have the smaller 10.5” rear disk brakes or drum brakes you can run 15” rims which you can get snow tires for under 50$. Winter master makes a good snow tire for cheap, my grandpa is a dealer and it’s all he installs for crawling around the hills of WV. They actually go better than my hankooks, but I got my hankook’s because you can get almost 40,000 miles out of them compared to about 20,000 for the winter masters. Another tip is to run snow tires on all 4 wheels. You may be able to go with good tires on the back, but you won’t be able to steer or stop without them on the front. Really this is way more important than making it up a hill. Hope that helps
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i used a 215/60/R16 tire and i got around perfect in the snow and i live in nebraska. the tire will fit and i just did the back tires and left the front bald ones on and still did fine. also i have those snow tires for sale if you want them. i used them 1 season and are in perfect condition i think there SnowTrackers pm me or email me
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Like BMmonteSS said, watch out for some of the cheaper snow tires. A lot of the cheaper brands only have good tread for half of their life, like say after 20,000 miles it will no longer have small individual tread blocks, just large lugs that are useless in the snow. Good brands like michelin, bridgestone, etc. have the treads cut deep enough so that they will have the same grip the entire life of the tire.
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Awesome.
i went in a snow covered field today for ****s and giggles, minus the front tires having no traction, the rears are decently hard to break loose.
only problem i see is the wide tires mounted on the doughnut rims (flame) seem to partially fold over at high speed tight turns, which isnt a problem if i take it easy.
well see friday when the storm comes.
i went in a snow covered field today for ****s and giggles, minus the front tires having no traction, the rears are decently hard to break loose.
only problem i see is the wide tires mounted on the doughnut rims (flame) seem to partially fold over at high speed tight turns, which isnt a problem if i take it easy.
well see friday when the storm comes.
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I know you did this on t he cheap, but it is not what i would call a good idea.
I ran firestone winterfire 215/65-15's on my car for several winters, they performed great, i could run circles around SUV's with them. It is extreamly important to use snow tires in sets of 4. I would strongy suggest you get some. You won't be dissapointed.
traction without steering or braking is an invitation for disaster!
I ran firestone winterfire 215/65-15's on my car for several winters, they performed great, i could run circles around SUV's with them. It is extreamly important to use snow tires in sets of 4. I would strongy suggest you get some. You won't be dissapointed.
traction without steering or braking is an invitation for disaster!
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Originally posted by laiky
traction without steering or braking is an invitation for disaster!
traction without steering or braking is an invitation for disaster!
245/80r15 again for tire size.
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Holy crap those are 30.5 inches tall. You'll deffinatelly rub on the inner fender and cut your turning radius in half. You'll start rubbing the inner fender with anything over 26" tall, of course this depends alot on how wide the tire is. With something in the 235-255 range 26" is all that fits.
Seriously, your life is worth 200 bucks, buy some snow tires.
Seriously, your life is worth 200 bucks, buy some snow tires.
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I'm looking at a bird for a snow car since they're cheap enough. V6 is enough to keep me from breaking loose everywhere I go, some snow tires and weight in the rear and I'd be happy. I went two years with all season tires, no weight, and driving like an idiot in the snow without problems.
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so what would be suggested if i wanted to get a set of rear tires and rims to throw on the camaro when it gets ugly outside. i'm not really concerned about looks. i was thinking eithier 14" or 15" rims. i'm running kumho 16/245's summer tires, i want to make sure i have proper clearnce for the rims as well. thanks
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Kedco1, It really depends on the rear brakes that you have. As long as you don't have the big PBR brakes your can run 15's with no problem. You can run 14's with drum brakes. I suggest 15's just because they are so plentiful and snow tires are so cheap for them. Then go with a 215/65/15. These tires are close to the same height as your stockers. If you want a set of snow tires that will go like stink look into the winter masters or blizzaks, just don't expect more than 20K out of either of them. If your willing to spend a little more look at the Hankook W401's they don't go quite as good, but are rumored (no first hand knowledge yet) to get 30-40k. If you want to spend even more money get the Dunlop M3's, my mom runs the on her audi and got 40K out of them and they go great on all but ice.
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