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Old 10-23-2005, 05:34 PM
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Whoring some installed Spohn parts..

I just got these yesterday. Steve's Poly/Rod LCA and PHR, Before I had the polypoly boxed stock stuff. Once I get the trans back in I'll post up how much of a differance there is.


LCA adjuster...



LCA installed...



Whoring of Spohn parts...



Even more whoring of Spohn parts that I've gotten over the years




Video of how easy it is to adjust this stuff.
Old 10-23-2005, 06:08 PM
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Wow Kat your car really IS a piece of crap!!! (just kidding) Looks good man! time to get it back together...
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Hey you really are a *****

And your tranny is missing
Old 10-23-2005, 10:21 PM
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Hey you really are a *****

And your tranny is missing
Damn it! Some fugger stole it Oh well looks like they have a rebuilt T56 with zero miles on it lol
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They look good, but you'll experience much less binding if you mount the rod-end on the frame side.
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Ehh I doubt it, I rather have the quietness over the performance gain, if any at all.

For arugment shakes, Dean has his set up exactly like that, and pulls 1.07 g's in his car. *insert standard dean comment here* It is because of the light weight V6....

Just messing with ya Dean
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Yeah, I'm still around Kat. Be busy on a major remodel project at home forthe past 3 months- all car projects are on the back burner for another year til its done.

Doesn't matter which side the rodends are on, as long as you have them on one side so the axle can twist freely. The urethane will pull inward the same whether its on the axle side or the chassis side, and you are correct Kat that it will be quieter with it on the appropriate chassis side. The only bind that one urethane side will see is inward deflection if you are getting about 4 inches of travel different between sides or better (then the axle side mounts will narrow about 1/4" max less ditance between them in comparision to the chassis mount spread.- thats about 1/8" inward bind in a 20" throw- trivial and harmless even at that). In that case a car would not be handling well anyways with that much roll from a 4 inch travel difference.

I will actuaslly argue the other way that with them on the axle side is best. Why? Because with the rodends on the chassis side, the entire LCA does not have to twist and then back with every suspension cycle, only the ball socket on the rodend does. It the other mount posistion with the rodend on the chassis side, the entire LCA twists with the axle on wheel travel deflection- more mass to rotate and in essence more unsprung weight.


PS- Kat, you gotta get Steve to get you some of them high end rodends you guys sent me Wont get any noise at all and they'll last forever. Its been what now? I think well over a year and they are quiet as can be. I killed the original QA1's in 1 month and the Aurora's in about 3 months. These are not showing any signs of problems in the least bit with hard driving.

Lots of Spohn parts under mine also- great products regardless of what anyone says negatively. They are built to last.
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Hrmm interesting points ya got there I'll have to ponder about that for a bit.

It's been about that long now since ya got them? Doesn't seem like it. Whats on there now are the QA1 XM series with the teflon lining. They are the step below what you have actually (about 29 dollars a rod end or so) I shouldn't have to worry about these for a while since I'm not doing 1100 miles a week driving anymore. lol

I've always liked Spohn parts, well before I started working there and well after. Cause of exactly like you said, Steve makes his parts to last. On my other car, that is soon to be sent to the great bone yard in the sky, I chopped off Steve's old box sfc's for the iroc. 5 year old parts made in his garage still look like the day that they were made. A friend of mine, has Steve's first torque arm design, well actually one from the very first batch of 10 he made, he has made well over 400 or so passes (if not more) on it some in the 14's and most in the low 12's-high 11's.

Hopefully tomorrow, if this friggin rain is done, I'll get the trans back in and have a lil bit of fun...
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I checked and it been about 10 months now. I put them on in mid January of this year.

The Xm's have a 34,000 load rating, these have a 55,000 load rating.

The old Aurora's I took off were equvilant to the QA1 XM series at 34,000 load rating. They actually lasted me about 16 months but started making noise within 3 months. I am very hard on parts though. It almost to the point my wife does not want me driving her car anymore because she knows I abuse the heck out of it the rare occations I drive it alone. I try and borrow it once in a while running out at night doing job estimates. I have to pick up some of Steves steel strut mounts because my HMS alum ones are making alot of knocking noise and it makes the car sound clunky on rough roads driving slow. The high dollar spherical bearing I put into them a few years back are great- its just the aluminum machined slot they fit into has developed a tiny bit of slop due to the softness of the aluminum.
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dean, are them the rodends I pointed you too a long while back?
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Yes they are Jay. I do recall you telling about them and thatsd how I discovered them. Aurora does not make one this large and I did not have a QA1 catalog to find them.

Thank you again.
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