mw66nova

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i know i'll probably get some flack about this, but please bear wtih me. i'm running v6 springs all the way around because of the weight transfer properties of these springs in a v8 equiped vehicle. even with the v8 up front, my car probably weighs about as much as a full optioned v6, maybe even lighter. i completely deleted ALL emissions equipment and a/c stuff. as well ALL p/s stuff. i'm running a manual box now. i also have headers instead of manifolds, running an aftermarket aluminum intake manifold, etc., etc. also have a 3" fiberglass hood. there is NOTHING upfront i don't need. so, the car sits about as high if not higher than a factory v6 car. (sits higher than it did when i brought it home...) oh, i also deleted the gfx and went with a sportcoupe front end (actually, the whole thing is a sportcoupe.)

with that said, any ideas how many coils i will need to take off for a 1 1/2" drop? cut off the top or bottom?

picture of my no options engine bay, has a/c delete box now:

blyth18md

I think this is a trial and error kind of thing. There were different springs from the factory for different cars and years. Earlier cars had taller spring (slightly), f41 was differt than the iroc and ws6 springs. They were computer selected from the options (weight) that were added.

Best thing you can do is just go a 1/4 coil at a time.

I believe you would want to cut the top as the bottoms are made to sit into the a-arms

mw66nova

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DAAAANNG IT, LOL! not EXACTLY what i wanted to hear, but it's EXACTLY what i figured i'd hear. probably going to go dramatic at first and cut a whole coil off and see where that nets me, i have two sets so if i screw on up i'll have the other set. i just really HATE pulling the front suspension apart on these cars...any car really.

MrDude_1

ummm, the entire point of running V6 springs (or any drag springs for that matter) is its a lighter spring with more coils... you WANT that spring to be tall..


if you're going to start cutting coils for the look, and you want to keep the springs for a launch, why dont you get some drag springs, and cut thoes down?

mw66nova

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to cut cost at this piont. and also cause i still street drive this car most everyday.

phoenix305

I think a coil would be about right maybe a little less like 3/4 and see how that sits.

Token

you know you're sacrificing functionality for the sake of looks, right? the springs you have right now will still travel the same distance over bumps, and an inch might not seem like a lot but it will definitely bottom out easier. with stiffer lowering springs I actually bottom out less than with stock, at the taller ride height. I know you're trying to save money and all, but I strongly discourage cutting your springs. the money you save now might mean the troubles you go through in a month from now when that dip in the road takes off your catback...


I bought *brand new* eibach sportlines from the TGO classifieds for $200 shipped. Just a heads up.

Meatman

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I got a good 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 by doing 2/3 of coil on WS6 front springs. I cut 1 full coil off rear and put hose on top and the car has a slight rake but almost not even notice able. I noticed no decrease in ride qaulity afterward, but I also did subframe connectors at the same time. Of course you have to watch it around town or youll drag or scrape, but it looks badazz so who cares. Heres a visaul.......

Before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v394/Meatman/4X4.jpg

After
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...an/Slammed.jpg

mw66nova

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catback is not an issue:

i actually have close to 5 1/2" of clearance under the lowest point. dropping it 1 1/2" will be just fine. remember, the car is setup for drag racing as it's first priority, so the looser springs with a coil cut-off is more beneficial to me BECAUSE they travel more than a set of eibachs. eibachs wouldn't do me any good, trust me.

meat man, that looks killer. pretty much exactly what i'm lookin for. here is a pic of my stance as the car sits today. (don't worry, it's getting painted THIS saturday)

mw66nova

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cut 1 coil off all the way around. made a huge difference in ride height. it still transfers weight like it used to though, suprisingly. here is a pic:

Meatman

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Looks good. Nice to see it one color now. What size tires you running on the rear?

likeenz24

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how long had the springs been on the car? When mine had V6 spring they settled a lot after the engine had been in for a while. it set about as low as yours does after you cut the springs.

mw66nova

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the car was orignally a v6 and those where the stock springs. the motor was in the car 3 weeks before i cut the springs. and 2 of those weeks was with my driving the car everyday. if they were giong to settle, it would have already happened.

295/50/16's out back.

likeenz24

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thats true. mine wass also original V6 car. Once they settled it was pretty low. header collector and exhaust hit on large bumps. Yours looks good....any exhaust rub?

ssean92

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looks nice i like the look much better, i will see you at the track at the fbody meet. i cut 1 full off the front and 1/2 off my rear heres how it sits with my lt1 in her

ssean92

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here it is

ssean92

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one more try

mw66nova

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the only exhaust rub i have is over LARGE speed bumps. funny thing is, if i go over them fast, it doesn't have time to come down on the exhaust.

maroon88iroc

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dang it looks like warner robins is taking over this thread....

i dont mean to steal the thread but how many coils should i cut off on my iroc springs for about a 2 inch drop?

maroon88iroc

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mw66nova and ssean92 are yall going to the shootout thats coming up at renolds? i am going but im affraid i will probably the slowest car there....

mw66nova

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yes, i'll be there! you probably won't be the slowest car there, there are going to be a few v6 fourth gens, so as long as your in the low 15's, you'll still be competition for someone!

as far as trimming, i'd only trim 1 coil first. that dropped my car nearly 2" up front, so yeah. the ONLY reason i cut mine was so that i could have a bit more aggressive stance without killing the weight transfer capabilities of the lighter springs. if i were you, i'd get some lowering springs and just get rid of your irocs. it's really going to screw with the spring rate on that stiff spring of yours.

maroon88iroc

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thanks for the help mw66nova i want my car to be lower but i really would rather not spend the what is it about $300 for the eibachs. i am going to try to make that shootout so lookout for me. but i really dont even now if my car is in the low 15's its a pretty much stock 305 and i think the #'s for stock 305 irocs of my year are 15.5 1/4 and 7.0 0-60 times. Plus i have never raced it so i doubt ill get very good reaction times and 60 foot times.

mw66nova

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ok, just remember that reaction time has nothing to do with ET. the clocks don't start timing till you leave the line.

ssean92

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i plan on being there. but still up in the air.

mw66nova

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you better be! i'd really like that kill bragging rights. n/a 305 takes out an lt1 powered thirdgen...