klumb15

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I got eibach sportline lowering springs, and i'm gonna put new shocks and struts on there while i'm puttin on the new springs....which should i get, the KYB's or the Tokico???

klumb15

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any1

ebmiller88

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I have the KYBs on my cars and am happy with them but if you can afford better, then do so.

Ed

metalhead212121

most people on this board swear that KYB's wear out after about a year or 2 of everyday driving. I dont know if ANYONE on this board is running Tokico... Ive driven cars with Tokico shocks/struts in them and Im pretty happy with the way they preform....good hard ride . I think the majority of people on this board opt for Bilstein or Koni (for all out performance/handling NOT comfort). Good luck!

Dan

klumb15

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okay i definatly don't want something that'll wear out in a year or 2...so tokico's are OK? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33590 The KYB's are only 122 on ebay and the tokico's are like a hundred bucks more...should i jsut go with the KYB's and take my chances or should i spend the extra doe???

Kandied91z

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the kyb gr2 lasted one year/5,000 on my camaro with new iroc springs and 1,000 3 months on my gtp. the tokico i only kept for 2 months but worked nicely for what they were but i'd never buy them again.

if i couldn't afford yellow konis (those who want adjustment) or the best (bilstein) i would stick to gabriels or something just as cheap from your local auto parts store. your strut/shock combo only rides as good as your spring choice and viseversa. however the kyb brand just doesn't last on most cars, especially if you have it lowered. use stock new iroc springs or maybe even get away with pro-kit style if you plan to attempt to use kyb.

klumb15

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so your saying, since i have sportline lowering springs, i should just go with a cheap set of shocks and struts from a local autoparts supplyer because they aren't gonna last anyways unless i get koni's or bilstein's???

Kandied91z

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might as well...you get what you pay for and if you think koni/bilstein standards like the hd/sports/yellow and reds are expensive you haven't touched the tip of pricey suspension pieces.

in all honesty your better off saving and getting the right parts afterall the above are warrantied and will make your car ride 100% better then anything else on the market. if you are running sportlines then you need to get a set of shorter shocks/struts. you can get nitro drop shocks and others that will work with your valving for very cheap.

just do some more research on it...

klumb15

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what am i supposed to look for when i research...do they make shorter shcoks and struts for camaro's or do i have to kind of find a universal drop shock??

Kandied91z

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no it will take a little more then looking up camaro pieces alone...just go to murrays or autozone type store and get something reasonable i suppose. point being is just don't buy the ones mentioned in your topic and expect to call them performance pieces. your basically buying run of the mill setups and paying for it when you could have saved alot.

klumb15

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yea i wasn't plannin on buying the ones in the thread after your post...i looked on my car, and they look like somewhat new shocks and struts, so i'm thinking about just leavin them on until they wear out, cause they feel pretty good right now, so i think i'll jstu get those springs on, then when the shocks and struts go bad i'll get another cheap set, then hopefully i'll have some good money saved up to buy some performance stuff, some koni's or bilsteins...abotu how much do i have to save up for a nice set of shocks and struts???

Kandied91z

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depends.... you could look used too but on average 350-450 will get you a really good setup. remember too the higher priced units like bilstein have a lifetime warranty. they pay for themselves.

klumb15

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alright...whast the reasoning for them wearing out so fast?? just because they are compressed more than they are supposed too??? can't you just move the shock mount if thats the case???

CrazyHawaiian

I'm happy with my Tokiko HP's. They worked great on both the street and the track (drifting) for almost a year now, and I definately used and abused them. IMO a good budget choice (ebay, $200 and change for the set NIB!) and good match for a stock height or mildly dropped car. I'm upgrading to the Illuminas soon but only because I want to play around with the dampening. Expect any MacPhearson style setup to show wear after 30k miles. Honestly, unless you race, you dont need an expensive setup.

Kandied91z

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typically they wear faster because many will pair them up with drop springs. even the best setups can't hanlde a improper match up.

Dale

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I have had KYB's on my car for well over a year now, and still working fine.

I was looking at getting the tokicos because you can adjust the rears from inside the cab. Konis you have to get under the car. Not sure how bilstein's adjust.

klumb15

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dale is your car lowered???

ebmiller88

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Over two years on my KYBs...no issues.

Ed

klumb15

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yea i think we agree that they are good shocks and will last awhile, but the question is will they last a while with 1.75" lowering springs??? dale or ed are your cars lowered at all??

CrazyHawaiian

Pretty much any type of dampener setup sold off the shelf will be affected by lowering springs. Lowering the ride height does limit the ammount of travel, but I dont think it majorly affects the life of the dampener unless its extreme lowering like where the shafts of the dampeners bottom out. I think its safe to say that the majority of the people on these forums are using 1-2" lowering springs and regular length (aka off the shelf) shocks/struts. And we really dont have too many posts about premature wear problems. I haven't had any of these problems myself. But if its really important to you there are mods that will help retain full travel, like strut mounts with raised tops or drop spindles. You'll spend more than a set of HP's or KYB's to get those parts. So its probably not worth it unless you race, or run expensive dampeners, or the car is extremely lowered and you want a nice ride. I wouldnt worry about it.

ebmiller88

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Yes, Eibach Pro Kit...~ 1" drop.


Ed

Dale

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I dropped mine about 1 month ago... the improper way, got tired of it looking like a 4x4.

So far, no issues yet.

klumb15

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so is it worth getting new shocks and struts right now when i put on my springs so its all one big project...or is it easy enuf to remove shocks and struts down the road, does the spring have to be taken off when the shocks/struts go on??

Dale

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When you install springs on front or rear, you will have to unbolt half the shock/strut. Your half way there already.

If you have the cash now, do both.
If your hurting for cash, do it later.

You do not remove springs to install shocks on our setup.