Need down force up front..
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Car: 89 Firebird
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Need down force up front..
When I'm going about 120-130 mph the nose starts to feel very light and I sometimes feeling like I'm kinda fighting the wind from pushing me left and right.. I have plans for a fiberglass hood, tubular k-member/a-arms and LS1/T56. And I have a feeling these are going to make it worse. So what can I do to keep the nose down where it belongs?
I've thought about making a fiberglass pan under the car to smooth everything out, but have heard unless its very, very low (like formula 1 car low) it would actually make the problem much worse.
So any ideas?
I've thought about making a fiberglass pan under the car to smooth everything out, but have heard unless its very, very low (like formula 1 car low) it would actually make the problem much worse.
So any ideas?
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What about a larger front spoiler?? I remember seeing some pictures of a guys car that had a big front spoiler that came a few inches out past the lower gfx. It looked pretty decent but Im no aerodynamics expert but would something like that help?
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Duct tape the front grill closed, And watch your temp gauge to make sure your still doing O.K. there. Thats a little tip I picked up from watching NASCAR. git-r-done
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Dober, I know the pic your talking about. I bet that would work, but I would end up trearing that thing off before I got to work..
Flynlow, I plan on droping it, just don't know how much yet. I had no idea those fender vents of yours would lower the front end. I've wanted to add something like those to my car sence I saw yours, just trying to find a way to do it and not look like I totaly ripped off your idea.
Vsixtoy, car already over heats..
Flynlow, I plan on droping it, just don't know how much yet. I had no idea those fender vents of yours would lower the front end. I've wanted to add something like those to my car sence I saw yours, just trying to find a way to do it and not look like I totaly ripped off your idea.
Vsixtoy, car already over heats..
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Originally posted by Rage13
Vsixtoy, car already over heats..
Vsixtoy, car already over heats..
On a serious note: More strut/shock rebound force will do wonders for highspeed control. Its hard to beat a go set of Koni yellows for this situation. My next struts will psitively be some custom GroundControl strut assembies.
"What is harsh at 40mph, is perfect at 140mph, and spongy at 240mph"
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You will need to vent the hood as there is a lot of air piling up under it and giving the front end lift. You can reduce it otherwise by having a lower front spoiler (so less air makes it under the car). Your shocks are probably not up to par either.
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shocks are close to shot, just can't deside witch ones to go with yet.
headlight covers are an idea. any idea if the clear ones are still made?
i've still heard mixed things about the belly pans, i would really like to try it out but that would really suck to find out it don't work at that speed...
headlight covers are an idea. any idea if the clear ones are still made?
i've still heard mixed things about the belly pans, i would really like to try it out but that would really suck to find out it don't work at that speed...
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Originally posted by Rage13
shocks are close to shot, just can't deside witch ones to go with yet.
shocks are close to shot, just can't deside witch ones to go with yet.
Lets put it this way. If you were to slam a basketball into the ground at 120mph, how high do you think it would bounce from the force exerted? It alot more than bouncing it into the ground at 60mph. The faster you drive, the higher the damper rate the shocks need to control the spring frequency when it recoils further.
Now this only goes to a certain point- so yes you can have too much force. But not with an over-the-counter street performance shock/strut, not even close.
Too much rebound will cause the tire at high speed to glance over imperfections in the road and not return to the ground fast enough for the next imperfection. Asphalt roads are not bad, but do some speed on concrete and you'll experience this at a much slower speed than asphalt. It makes the car jittery at high speeds (were talking mainly over 120mph, but really depends on the car and areodynamics, and several other factors)
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If you are driving the car at 120+, there is only one aftermarket over-the-counter Strut assembly to consider that has the damper force you need = Koni Yellows.
If you are driving the car at 120+, there is only one aftermarket over-the-counter Strut assembly to consider that has the damper force you need = Koni Yellows.
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Originally posted by rx7speed
seems with the second gen rx7 crowd the KYB AGX has some good luck also with being a nice shock.
seems with the second gen rx7 crowd the KYB AGX has some good luck also with being a nice shock.
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those Koni Yellows are looking pretty good right about now, one more thing on the list.
how much do you think scoops under the front of the car would help? i've got an idea to put 3 scoops under the front, big one under the middle for the rad (with vents in the hood and fenders) and 1 smaller scoop on each side right infront of the front tires for the intercoolers and duct the air into the front brakes.
sound like something that mite work?
how much do you think scoops under the front of the car would help? i've got an idea to put 3 scoops under the front, big one under the middle for the rad (with vents in the hood and fenders) and 1 smaller scoop on each side right infront of the front tires for the intercoolers and duct the air into the front brakes.
sound like something that mite work?
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What do you mean under the car. You want the vents on top of the car. The idea is to try and eliminate, reduce the amount of air under the car. Air under the car is what causes instability as the high pressure trys to lift the car. Vents just behind the radiator and on the fenders will work. A belly pan also reduces the amount of drag, turbulence and pressure under the car the reducing lift.
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