Straight Up, who makes the best 255/50/16ZR tire?
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Straight Up, who makes the best 255/50/ZR16 tire?
I'm looking for a performance street tire in size 255/50/16. I would prefer for it to be Z rated. Flat out, which is best?
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You won't find too many tires in that size now, 245-50-16 has many times more choices.
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Fulda makes them. Its what I have except I've got 245s but we have some 255s that I'm about to snag.
Fulda Extremo (Its a German tire)
Treadwear: 180 (very sticky tires)
Traction: A
temp: A
Fulda Extremo (Its a German tire)
Treadwear: 180 (very sticky tires)
Traction: A
temp: A
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you have much more choices in 245/50-16
there is no "best" tire for everything, so you'll have to be more specific.
are you asking for the best dry grip, with zero regard to life, wet grip or cost?
i think that would be a toss up between pirelli, dunlop and goodyear...
but i wouldnt consider them the BEST because to me, cost, wet traction and life are factors too...
there is no "best" tire for everything, so you'll have to be more specific.
are you asking for the best dry grip, with zero regard to life, wet grip or cost?
i think that would be a toss up between pirelli, dunlop and goodyear...
but i wouldnt consider them the BEST because to me, cost, wet traction and life are factors too...
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From the tire rack, you'll have 13 chioces, not so limited.
All are ZR speed rated or greater.
Yokohama A032R
Hoosier R3S04
Hoosier R3S03
Hoosier A3S04
Hoosier R3S03
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Asymmetrical
Sumitomo HTR Z
Kumho ECSTA Supra 712
Goodyear Eagle HP Ultra Plus
Firestone Firehawk SZ50 EP
Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Michelin Pilot SX MXX3
Michelin Pilot Sport
All are ZR speed rated or greater.
Yokohama A032R
Hoosier R3S04
Hoosier R3S03
Hoosier A3S04
Hoosier R3S03
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Asymmetrical
Sumitomo HTR Z
Kumho ECSTA Supra 712
Goodyear Eagle HP Ultra Plus
Firestone Firehawk SZ50 EP
Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Michelin Pilot SX MXX3
Michelin Pilot Sport
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Nitto 555's are really drag radials not really great street tires, but if you need those to hook then it's probably a great option, but for everyday driving.... i dont know
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I was looking at the BFGoodrich Comp TA ZRs. Are they any good? They come in 255/50/16 and the tread pattern is pretty attractive, plus they are z rated.
Also looking at these dunlops. Are they any good?
http://tires2.digiknow.com/dunlop/di...ea=Performance
Also looking at these dunlops. Are they any good?
http://tires2.digiknow.com/dunlop/di...ea=Performance
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I wished BF Goodrich made G-force KDW size 255/50/ZR16.
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I have never owned them, but I have heard that the Michelin Pilot Sports are pretty nice for street tires.
I have Kuhmo Ecsta 712s right now and they are alright.... Kind of hard when cold and they get pretty greasy when they get hot, but they are pretty cheap too....
As for the track, the Hoosier R3S03s would be the way to go.
I have Kuhmo Ecsta 712s right now and they are alright.... Kind of hard when cold and they get pretty greasy when they get hot, but they are pretty cheap too....
As for the track, the Hoosier R3S03s would be the way to go.
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$1,100.32 for Michelin Pilot Sports shipped to my door. :lala: those are the 255/50/16's
$560.00 for Nitto555R's shipped to my door. :lala: those are the 245/50/16's.
Only bad thing is that the Nittos maybe last for 10,000 miles.
$560.00 for Nitto555R's shipped to my door. :lala: those are the 245/50/16's.
Only bad thing is that the Nittos maybe last for 10,000 miles.
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I really like the Sumitomo's, the BFG G-force KDW, and the Dunlop sport series. But they are all 245/50/16
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After looking at all of my choices for 255/50/16's I think I'm gonna go with the Dunlop Sport 8000 tires. There is no way in hell I am going to pay almost $300 for a tire. What do you guys think about my choice?
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bfg comp t/a ZR...255/50zr/16..had them...loved them.but i moved on to 17in and now i have some kd's. i wish they made kd's in 255/50/16. but those comp t/a zr's are great i think.i am going with those if i ever find some 16 wheels i like that are not to pricey.
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Originally posted by ckeene502
bfg comp t/a ZR...255/50zr/16..had them...loved them.but i moved on to 17in and now i have some kd's. i wish they made kd's in 255/50/16. but those comp t/a zr's are great i think.i am going with those if i ever find some 16 wheels i like that are not to pricey.
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bfg comp t/a ZR...255/50zr/16..had them...loved them.but i moved on to 17in and now i have some kd's. i wish they made kd's in 255/50/16. but those comp t/a zr's are great i think.i am going with those if i ever find some 16 wheels i like that are not to pricey.
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I will be buying the Kumho 712s in the next few weeks...
I will be buying the Kumho 712s in the next few weeks...
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Good choice. I love mine, and you can't beat the price!
Good choice. I love mine, and you can't beat the price!
But do be careful if you run them on the track.... When you get them hot, they get really greasy and there is little transition from the normal feel to that "wow, am I driving on ice here or what????" feel. I got compliments on my driving when I was pushing them a little too hard - or more like compliments on my ability to keep the car from swapping ends, mostly on the hardball, and in front of some cars that are far more capable than mine .
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I was in pep boys yesterday and kinda wandered into the back where they keep the tires and I saw a set of 255/50/16's back there. Looked really wide so i think i might try em out. I had them in the 245's but they wore out kinda quick.
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Originally posted by PimpWillis
[B]I was in pep boys yesterday and kinda wandered into the back where they keep the tires and I saw a set of 255/50/16's back there. Looked really wide so i think i might try em out.
[B]I was in pep boys yesterday and kinda wandered into the back where they keep the tires and I saw a set of 255/50/16's back there. Looked really wide so i think i might try em out.
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My brother has 255/50/16 Futura Ultra Z tires on his 91z28 and with a dead posi he can still hook a 2.0 60' with very little if any burnout. these are off the self at your local pepboys.
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Originally posted by Timz2882
My brother has 255/50/16 Futura Ultra Z tires on his 91z28 and with a dead posi he can still hook a 2.0 60' with very little if any burnout. these are off the self at your local pepboys.
My brother has 255/50/16 Futura Ultra Z tires on his 91z28 and with a dead posi he can still hook a 2.0 60' with very little if any burnout. these are off the self at your local pepboys.
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Originally posted by Matt87GTA
Oh I like mine too, and agreed on the price .
But do be careful if you run them on the track.... When you get them hot, they get really greasy and there is little transition from the normal feel to that "wow, am I driving on ice here or what????" feel. I got compliments on my driving when I was pushing them a little too hard - or more like compliments on my ability to keep the car from swapping ends, mostly on the hardball, and in front of some cars that are far more capable than mine .
Oh I like mine too, and agreed on the price .
But do be careful if you run them on the track.... When you get them hot, they get really greasy and there is little transition from the normal feel to that "wow, am I driving on ice here or what????" feel. I got compliments on my driving when I was pushing them a little too hard - or more like compliments on my ability to keep the car from swapping ends, mostly on the hardball, and in front of some cars that are far more capable than mine .
I agree with matt. I own the Kumho Supra 712's 255/50/ZR16's and they are great when driving normal but at the track, when you get them real hot, they suck. And that great tire feeling doesn't last long on the road either. But for what they do for how long they do it, its a good tire for that price. I had them shipped to my door for 372.00 at tirerack.com
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i am sure summit can get them, or sears, tire rack....anyone who sells bfg. i cant remember the price....alot cheaper than kd i know that.
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check out the bfg web site thay have all kinds of info
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check out the bfg web site thay have all kinds of info
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BFG G-Force Comp-TA KDWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
BFG G-Force Comp-TA KDWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Which BFG G-Force Comp-TA did you have on the Talon? The KDW or the KDWS? Both are ZR rated but the KDW has the better looking thread pattern. I have the KDW and during the 4 years I've had them. I finally just replaced the 2 front tires w/KDW last month.
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I have the KDWS and they suck! At the track I wasn't able to get any better than a 2.1 60. They're good for all season, but not exactly a "performance" tire. Besides, they don't come in 255 anyways.
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Let me be more direct...
WHY DOES PEP BOYS/FUTURAS SUCK?
Thanks,
Let me be more direct...
WHY DOES PEP BOYS/FUTURAS SUCK?
Thanks,
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which Futura tires do you have on the bird, are they the Super Sport GLS tires, Ultra-z's, touring HR, 2000 LTE's or the Touring Plus SE's ?
the best ive seen are the Ultra-Z all the others suck for traction expectially at the track, i could never hook good at all with the Super Sport GLS's.
do you have a reason why the blow?
the best ive seen are the Ultra-Z all the others suck for traction expectially at the track, i could never hook good at all with the Super Sport GLS's.
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: Do not buy the Futura's. Pep Boys blows.
: Do not buy the Futura's. Pep Boys blows.
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I had the KDWS on my car...the tread pattern was average and I bought them because I live in MN and the car was a daily driver. I thought I should have better grip with an AWD car...I have a friend with a WRX and a WRX STI for comparison...
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Originally posted by Morley
I have them on the Formula I bought (prev owner put them on) and they seem just fine, handle about the same as the gatorbacks that came on my car from the factory.
I have them on the Formula I bought (prev owner put them on) and they seem just fine, handle about the same as the gatorbacks that came on my car from the factory.
The Kumhos were good when I first got them but after the tires started to wear just a little, they stopped being as "sticky" as they used to be. Now they just make good street tires, not performance tires. But they were good while they lasted. lol
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sounds like you just didnt have any good luck with them. for some reason my brother pulls 2.0 60' times at the track with these. my futura tires cant do anything better then a 2.3
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Right there is ur reason. There "performance" tire is no better then the stock tires from the factory.
Right there is ur reason. There "performance" tire is no better then the stock tires from the factory.
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I think the traction with the futuras were almost just as good as my BF goodrich's. Like i said before they wear very fast though, and are sucky in the weather. But other than that I think they are well worth the 100 dollar price tag. My 2 cents
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So, were not looking anymore for the best 255/50/16ZR tire anymore, were lookin for the ****ty, ok performance tire of "yesterday"? No, I dont think so. Thats why I am saying Futuras and Pep Boys blow when it comes to performance tires even in today's world. Why are u making excuses for them anyways? You own stock in them or somethin or do u just have a set and are tryin to coup with it like I once did?
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So, were not looking anymore for the best 255/50/16ZR tire anymore, were lookin for the ****ty, ok performance tire of "yesterday"? No, I dont think so. Thats why I am saying Futuras and Pep Boys blow when it comes to performance tires even in today's world. Why are u making excuses for them anyways? You own stock in them or somethin or do u just have a set and are tryin to coup with it like I once did?
dude chill the hell out, this post is about performance tires. obviusly you DID NOT have good luck with the futura's and went and spend a few extra bucks for better tires.
i work for the stupid company and thats why im sayin a few things here. the only "performance tire" we car is the Ultra-Z, we also carry Ventus tires which are like the Ultra-Z's but directional and much more expensive ( i think).
also if you notice how many differnt tires have been listed, you'll see how many differnt people these tires have worked best for, not all the tires will work best, just comes down to money and what you choose.
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As far as a good autocross tire Ive Heard that falken azenis sport will corner so hard it will make your ears bleed. No that being said from a autocross/rally SCCA buddy of mine. Hes into imports and says that with them tires and some heat in them they will lift the inside rear tire off the pavement in steep corner. They are limited in sizing but come in a 245-45-17 from http://victoriatire.com for 110 dollars. they are soft and may get 12,000miles out of them.
I would like them on set of chrome iroc 17". for summer only and he says are not that bad in the rain.
I am not a tire expert but a i work at a tire store and try to find out about the good stuff everyday.
I also want a set of Continental Extreme contacts on my 16's now but when i bought my new BFG Traction t/a's the conti's wernt in stock. But I wanted my tires that day.
I like the ones i got but the tread pattern and sidewall look so cool on the Exreme.
My boss with a 97 c-5 says the Michelin Pilot sport A/S are little soft capared to Goodyear F-1s on the back but he has to have run flats. And i think hes buying new rears soon hes are bald.
But mine would be to if i had a 6-speed and 300hp at wheels or so.
I would like them on set of chrome iroc 17". for summer only and he says are not that bad in the rain.
I am not a tire expert but a i work at a tire store and try to find out about the good stuff everyday.
I also want a set of Continental Extreme contacts on my 16's now but when i bought my new BFG Traction t/a's the conti's wernt in stock. But I wanted my tires that day.
I like the ones i got but the tread pattern and sidewall look so cool on the Exreme.
My boss with a 97 c-5 says the Michelin Pilot sport A/S are little soft capared to Goodyear F-1s on the back but he has to have run flats. And i think hes buying new rears soon hes are bald.
But mine would be to if i had a 6-speed and 300hp at wheels or so.
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Originally posted by Timz2882
WOW sounds like someone's panties are in a bunch.
dude chill the hell out, this post is about performance tires. obviusly you DID NOT have good luck with the futura's and went and spend a few extra bucks for better tires.
i work for the stupid company and thats why im sayin a few things here. the only "performance tire" we car is the Ultra-Z, we also carry Ventus tires which are like the Ultra-Z's but directional and much more expensive ( i think).
also if you notice how many differnt tires have been listed, you'll see how many differnt people these tires have worked best for, not all the tires will work best, just comes down to money and what you choose.
WOW sounds like someone's panties are in a bunch.
dude chill the hell out, this post is about performance tires. obviusly you DID NOT have good luck with the futura's and went and spend a few extra bucks for better tires.
i work for the stupid company and thats why im sayin a few things here. the only "performance tire" we car is the Ultra-Z, we also carry Ventus tires which are like the Ultra-Z's but directional and much more expensive ( i think).
also if you notice how many differnt tires have been listed, you'll see how many differnt people these tires have worked best for, not all the tires will work best, just comes down to money and what you choose.