ZR1 wheels.....How can I fit 17x11's out back???
#1
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 0
From: Kona, Hawaii / Redlands, CA
Car: 91' RS
Engine: Built 355
Transmission: Probuilt 700r4
ZR1 wheels.....How can I fit 17x11's out back???
These wheels are pretty easy to come by these days for a good price, so I was wondering If there is anyway to fit 11 inches wide in the back without super modifications. I have all the necessary equipment to do pretty much anything, but I don't want to chop the car up too bad.
My dad owns a body shop so I could even widen the fenders if I needed to. I'll be running over 450 horsepower but still want 17's. So I'm gonna need at least 11 inches of rubber back there.
Has anyone done this???with this wheel????
My dad owns a body shop so I could even widen the fenders if I needed to. I'll be running over 450 horsepower but still want 17's. So I'm gonna need at least 11 inches of rubber back there.
Has anyone done this???with this wheel????
#2
Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 481
Likes: 1
From: Livermore, Ca. US
Car: Firebird SSA
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
17x11 comes in two sizes.
Acutal ZR1 rims in the rear are 36mm offset
Grandsport (ZR1) rims in the rear are 50mm offset.
The acutal ZR1 rim needs to be pushed out 1.25"
The Grand Sport needs to be pushed out 2"
I think you can use a 4-Gen rear end and used the Grand Sport with out any problem. (I think)
Acutal ZR1 rims in the rear are 36mm offset
Grandsport (ZR1) rims in the rear are 50mm offset.
The acutal ZR1 rim needs to be pushed out 1.25"
The Grand Sport needs to be pushed out 2"
I think you can use a 4-Gen rear end and used the Grand Sport with out any problem. (I think)
#3
Supreme Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,392
Likes: 4
From: orlando, fl usa
Car: 1986 pontiac TA
Engine: 360 HSR
Transmission: 700r4 3300 yank converter
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt
www.skulte.com will have the adapters for you.
#4
Member
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
From: Detroit Suburbs
Car: 87 IROC
Engine: 5.3L
Transmission: Jerico
Axle/Gears: Aluminum 8.6 w/ T2R
Can I see a pic of these on someone's car? I just wonder if it sticks out so far that you'd think a hill-billy drives it. Any problems with rubbing?
#5
Visiting Skultes website is a good idea. That guy is a madman when it comes to wheel fitment. He has fit 10.5" wide wheels on the front and 11" wide wheels on the back. You just need the right backspacing and offset, and considering the guy makes his own adapters he's set! He will know how.
#6
Supreme Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville, NC
Car: Guess
Engine: Crazy 8
Transmission: So close to being a manual I can taste it
I can't comment on the wheels, but I am running 315/35-17 BFG Drag Radials on the rear of my 92. I didn't need to do anything other than remove the bump stop, which I might have been able to leave alone. I am using 17x10 Weld wheels with 5.5" backspacing if I remember correctly... Its been a few years since I bought the wheels... Hope this is helpful....
#7
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 888
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Car: '87+'02 Z28
Engine: 454 LSX
Transmission: T-56, Viper output shaft
Axle/Gears: Strage 12-bolt 3.73:1
92 zzz28 can you post a pic of your car with those wheels? I would like to see how they look on your car. I am trying to decide on wheels as well.
Thanks
Thanks
Trending Topics
#8
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 1
From: Usa
Car: 85 IROC-Z
Engine: magflatoVE
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 9" 411
Originally posted by Firebird90
17x11 comes in two sizes.
Acutal ZR1 rims in the rear are 36mm offset
Grandsport (ZR1) rims in the rear are 50mm offset.
The acutal ZR1 rim needs to be pushed out 1.25"
The Grand Sport needs to be pushed out 2"
I think you can use a 4-Gen rear end and used the Grand Sport with out any problem. (I think)
17x11 comes in two sizes.
Acutal ZR1 rims in the rear are 36mm offset
Grandsport (ZR1) rims in the rear are 50mm offset.
The acutal ZR1 rim needs to be pushed out 1.25"
The Grand Sport needs to be pushed out 2"
I think you can use a 4-Gen rear end and used the Grand Sport with out any problem. (I think)
#9
Supreme Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville, NC
Car: Guess
Engine: Crazy 8
Transmission: So close to being a manual I can taste it
Originally posted by Neil
92 zzz28 can you post a pic of your car with those wheels? I would like to see how they look on your car. I am trying to decide on wheels as well.
Thanks
92 zzz28 can you post a pic of your car with those wheels? I would like to see how they look on your car. I am trying to decide on wheels as well.
Thanks
Yeah, but give me couple of weeks, I loaned my camara to a friend for a few weeks...I may be able to find a pic of the car, but with different tires...same wheels though...
#15
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 0
From: Kona, Hawaii / Redlands, CA
Car: 91' RS
Engine: Built 355
Transmission: Probuilt 700r4
hmmmm......
Originally posted by JERRYWHO
I have a brand new in the box pair if you need some 17x11s and the price is right.
Jerry
I have a brand new in the box pair if you need some 17x11s and the price is right.
Jerry
I have ZR-1 wheels on my 95 Trans Am. I need 11 inchers out back. 390 hp to the wheels is shredding 275's. Mine are painted though.
Are those the right offset to fit a 4th gen with no modifications???
#17
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,355
Likes: 65
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
That would be sick. Maybe someone can photochop a pic so we can drool over it in our dreams.
I am in the process of doing the whole 11" wide rim thing. That pics do you want? i have everything. I will need machine my spacers as I made more room under there than I need right now, so i can tuck them even further. I am also kinda retarted/insane and am trying to pull of 335s. (old Viper tires)
here are a couple pics. They are all on my CD site. just surf around there for a bit.
by the way, I KNOW THEY STICK OUT. That is for all the guys that love to point that out and love to disregard the fact that it is a work in progress.
and one last one that shows a nice shot of them tucked just another 1/4" ( no rotor to see what it would look like)
later
-Dennis
I am in the process of doing the whole 11" wide rim thing. That pics do you want? i have everything. I will need machine my spacers as I made more room under there than I need right now, so i can tuck them even further. I am also kinda retarted/insane and am trying to pull of 335s. (old Viper tires)
here are a couple pics. They are all on my CD site. just surf around there for a bit.
by the way, I KNOW THEY STICK OUT. That is for all the guys that love to point that out and love to disregard the fact that it is a work in progress.
and one last one that shows a nice shot of them tucked just another 1/4" ( no rotor to see what it would look like)
later
-Dennis
#18
Supreme Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,155
Likes: 2
From: Louisville, Ky
Car: 1991 Z28
Engine: 383
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 10 Bolt
those are big tires... it looks like yopure building a nice car there, i figured ill stick with 315's so it will be that much easier to get them to tuck correctly.
looks amazing man!
looks amazing man!
#19
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,355
Likes: 65
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
thx. I too will be going down to 315s, I just got a killer deal on all 4 of the old Viper tires. 200 bucks shipped. I also figure I needed some crappy tires while everything is breaking in.
Thanks for the compliment. The monster should be done in the spring.
Thanks for the compliment. The monster should be done in the spring.
#20
Supreme Member
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,871
Likes: 24
From: Mass
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: A4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Re: hmmm........
Would it be safe to mill off a 1/2 to 3/4" of material where the end of the tape is touching in the picture that jerry posted? This would push my 11" wheels just inside the lip and look a lot better.
#22
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,355
Likes: 65
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Thats not worth it in any way for 2 reasons:
1. you would be making the wheel weaker in a way it was not designed for.
and
2. You have to get spacers anyways, so just get a thinner spacer and it does the same thing as the machining of the wheel.
You need 2" spacers ususally. You wanna try and have it tuck more, then just get 1.7" or 1.5" and go from there.
1. you would be making the wheel weaker in a way it was not designed for.
and
2. You have to get spacers anyways, so just get a thinner spacer and it does the same thing as the machining of the wheel.
You need 2" spacers ususally. You wanna try and have it tuck more, then just get 1.7" or 1.5" and go from there.
#23
Supreme Member
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,871
Likes: 24
From: Mass
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: A4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
I already have a 4th gen rearend so I do not need spacers. I need to find a way to get the wheel pushed in a bit. The only other way to do this to it get rid of the 4th gen rear and buy new wheels with a custom BS I guess. All well.
#25
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,607
Likes: 8
From: Tulsa, OK
Car: 1989 Formula WS6
Engine: L03 305 TBI
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt; 3.42 Posi
Originally posted by BOTTLEDZr28
I already have a 4th gen rearend so I do not need spacers. I need to find a way to get the wheel pushed in a bit. The only other way to do this to it get rid of the 4th gen rear and buy new wheels with a custom BS I guess. All well.
I already have a 4th gen rearend so I do not need spacers. I need to find a way to get the wheel pushed in a bit. The only other way to do this to it get rid of the 4th gen rear and buy new wheels with a custom BS I guess. All well.
#26
Supreme Member
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,871
Likes: 24
From: Mass
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: A4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
They are American Racing racing wheels. 17x11 and 17x9 1/2. The wheels are called Le Mans and they are discontinued. The backspacing on the front is the same as a 4th gen fbody and the rear is the same ZR1 wheel. Thats all I know
#28
Supreme Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 1
From: Evansville,IN,USA
Car: 89' T/A, 00' Firehawk
Engine: 406 Roller
Transmission: TH700R4 w/2800 stall
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi
Originally posted by irocdan
are you lowered?
are you lowered?
#29
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 540
Likes: 0
From: Granada hills,ca
Car: 88 Iroc vert
Engine: 305 tpi. cts-v brakes
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
im lowered 1.5 all around by jammex springs.im running 2.25" adapters up front and 1.25" rears with the grandsport offsett.yes i rolled the fender lips and had to massage thr inner fender wells,but its cuz im lowered.if you arent you will have less probs.
#30
Supreme Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 1
From: Evansville,IN,USA
Car: 89' T/A, 00' Firehawk
Engine: 406 Roller
Transmission: TH700R4 w/2800 stall
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi
Originally posted by irocdan
im lowered 1.5 all around by jammex springs.im running 2.25" adapters up front and 1.25" rears with the grandsport offsett.yes i rolled the fender lips and had to massage thr inner fender wells,but its cuz im lowered.if you arent you will have less probs.
im lowered 1.5 all around by jammex springs.im running 2.25" adapters up front and 1.25" rears with the grandsport offsett.yes i rolled the fender lips and had to massage thr inner fender wells,but its cuz im lowered.if you arent you will have less probs.
#32
also, eibach sport kit. - only "mod" I had to do was cut the front and rear corners off the bump stops. It wouldn't rub here other than on a lift w/ tires hanging though, so no big deal...
#33
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 540
Likes: 0
From: Granada hills,ca
Car: 88 Iroc vert
Engine: 305 tpi. cts-v brakes
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.23
yes im sure they will but more massaging of the inner fender wells,plus you will need an adjustable panhard bar to center the rearend so you aren't over too much to 1 side
#34
Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 186
Likes: 1
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Car: 1991 RS L99 1992 Z28 L98 Heritage
Engine: L99 L98
Transmission: 6L80E / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD disc (both)
Re: ZR1 wheels.....How can I fit 17x11's out back???
i almost *utted when I saw your pic of the 11" on the 4th gen rear, I'm picking up a 4th rear and want to do GS 17x11's in the rear, now I know it will work
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post