TransAmTBI

As you can see in the sig pic... my car looks like its missing an engine.. I plan on getting new springs hoping the ones in there are the problem... unfortunately I put the iroc rims on it and the originalls were 15inch as these are 16.. the tires rub on hard turns too... will wheel spacers and new springs fix this? or do I need lowering springs.. the shocks and stuts are brand new as well.
thanx for any ideas

TA88GTA

What spring do you have in there now? And what, if anything, did you do to make it look like that?

wdigitog

definately the springs. those don't seem to be from the same set as the rears. you can either get lowering springs or another set of stock front iroc springs or cut about 1 coil off the springs you have now.

BretD 88GTA

The 16" wheels shouldn't be rubbing. These cars use a different offset for the front wheels. It sounds like you have the wrong pair of wheels on the front of the car.

As for the ride height, either someone stuck different springs in there -OR- possibly the springs aren't seated correctly in the frame pockets.

Tony90RS

Springs,, Springs,, change them (eicbach pro) your car looks cool tho,, it's seems to be poping a wheelie while standing still...

TransAmTBI

thats the only compliment i ever got! lol... i think they came out of an IROC but tey might be in wrong.. I swear i did nothing to make it look like that... also the wheels def rub.. i have kinda big tires on there 225 60 16... but they are also on all 4 rims... I also put the right rims on the right tires so you all know... thanx to iroc's idiot proof rear and front stamped on the rim itsellf.. I'll try to buy the stopck springs and if that doesnt work i'll get lowwering or cut ones Thanx for the help.... you guys think the wheel spacer will stop the rubbing?

TransAmTBI

Thats the first compliment i ever got lol... I didnt do anything to make it look like that... the rims are out of an iroc i believe but they may be in wrong... also.. the wheels def rub... the size is 225 60 16.. on all 4's and the rims are on the right wheels. thanx for the help... you guys think the wheel spacer will fix the rubbing? are the tires i put on too big?

TransAmTBI

sorry for the dual replyies my comp said it timed out and didnt go through!

BretD 88GTA

Actually, 225/60/16 tires are kinda small (read as narrow). From the factory the 16"x8" rims came with 245/60/16. Spacers shouldn't be needed. Where excatly are the tires rubbing while turning?

wdigitog

change the springs first....i'm running 245-50-16's...i think the 60's you're running are too tall and that's what's causing the rub. with stock springs and 245-50-16's the wheel is 25.5" in diameter and they fit the wells w/o rubbing.

Tony90RS

You right,, they should be 245/50-16 not the tall 60....

TransAmTBI

too late i bought these tires a while ago but they rub on the corner of the bottom of the rear part of the fender.. little corner there but its only on right turns... The whell spacers will def be needeed.
thanx for your guys expertiese i really appreciate it

BretD 88GTA

Whoops! I typo'd up above. I meant to say from the factory our cars came with 245/50/16's.

So, yes, your tires are the cause of the rubbing probelm. The spacers will be a "band-aid" fix and may not even correct the problem.

TransAmTBI

heres a new update... so i'm looking at my passenger side front tire and it looks a little off... so inspect further and i swear the control arm is bent,.... wouldn't that be fitting... it only rubs on right turns...and front tire looks too far tward the rear... i think i may have stumbled onto something. what you guys think

Tony90RS

They way your front suspension looks and the way you discribe it you seem to have many problems there.. Let a pro look at it,, check the alignment. And see if you can find someone to trade those tires. Good luck

TransAmTBI

my tire alignment is way off.. i might bring it to the alignment shop soon... as for the control arm i'll hold off for now cuz i got my new rotors and springs today!!! woohoo i'm gunna install them now actually i'll let you know what happens

Tony90RS

Good luck on those springs, they are easy if you know what you're doing.....IF not be careful because they are unforgiving....

Tony90RS

By the way here is a picture of my car after I put my springs on..

Dan88IrocZ

^ I see your not the only guy who's had a violent run-in with springs eh??

TransAmTBI

you got nice lowering sprins though i got stock replacements... I actually finished one today! took me 4 hours!!! thats with no help and in the dark! But the replacements were actually taller that the ones that were in!! but with more coils..... i'm going to see what happens after I put the other in tomorrow... I may have to take them out and have them cut! this really sucks.

as for todays job... I had the most problem putting them in! I gave in and went to auto zone and got a compressor and had so much trouble setting it and getting it out once the spring was in!! I really looking foward to putting the other one in tomorrow!! i'd rather burn my nuts off... lol I'll let you guys know what happens.

Tony90RS

I did not use a spring compressor for mine. What I did was removed the two bolts from the cross member and with a jack underneath I slowly lowered it and the spring came out without a problem. I also found out that when replacing them first put the two bolts back on with out the spring, unscrew the top bolt from your strut, this will let you slip the new spring back in the slot. Then jack it back up and replace the strut nut . No spring compressor needed. Believe me I've done this many times and from trial and error this it the easiest way to go..

TransAmTBI

you didnt have the stock replacment springs for this then??? there is no possible way for me to squeeze the spring in through the gap with the strut connected!!! noooo way!! especially without a compressor...

the springs i put in were actually taller then the ones previously in... I dont know why the stock springs are making the car so freaking high... anyway When I finnish the other one i'll drive around and let you guys know if there is a difference.

TransAmTBI

final verdict... I'm just gunna cut about 2 coild off my new springs... this will work no more problems! haha

BretD 88GTA

I'd double-check to see that the springs are seated in the frame pockets correctly before doing anything else. If you installed stock springs, it shouldn't be sitting higher than before. The typical cause of this is that the springs are not seated in the frame properly.

Also, if you do decide to cut your springs, 2 coils sounds a bit extreme. I'd start with 1/2 a coil, put it back togther and see how it sits. If you want it lower, then cut another 1/2 coil. That should put you at a nice ride height. Of course you could also install some lowering springs and save yourself some trial-and-error work.

Let us know how it turns out.

TransAmTBI

if i had the money i would have bought lowering springs... I couldnt pass up 30 dollar pair of stock ones!! I'll do the 1/2 coil method! thanx for the tip! hopefully i'll be able to do it soon!