HamSpiced

i need new springs mine are all shot to hell. where do i go for new ones (not dealership the suck) is there a specific part number ?Do i get a list of choices? and about how much am I gonna expect to spend?

thanks guys/girls

chitowncruiser

Ham..............here is the part mumber for 2002 TA WS6 rear springs.......#10305134........dealer sells them for $84.60ea........gmpartsdirect sells them for $48.22ea...........sorry I dont have a part number for the front springs.......I have a 1992 Firebird and put them in mine......hope this helps you......

HamSpiced

alright so the 2002 TA springs will work on my 89 camaro>? i really need front springs though those are just as bad. ok now the big question. can i install these myself?

chitowncruiser

Yes you can do them yourself.........rear springs shouldnt be a problem for you once you have the car up......the fronts are a little more complicated to do and you might need a spring compressor to do them with.........I know that when guys put lowering springs on they go right in cause they are smaller than stock.......might be a good idea to get you new coil spring isolators also if the old ones are trashed...the isolators sit on top of the spring.............rear: support rear axle with a hydraulic jack and jack it up,put car up on jackstands, remove tire,Loosen the track bar bolt on axle,disconnect the rear brake hose clip also from underbody to help additional axle drop, remove the bottom bolt on the rear shock, lower the jack on rear axle until the spring and isolator can be removed with enough clearance,......installation is reverse of course.........I havent done my fronts yet and I just might buy them and have a shop I go to install them, keeps me from busting my knuckles........but the rears shouldnt be to bad and you will like the feel of the WS6 springs.........

HamSpiced

ok the rear sounds alright, but i need to knwo how to do the front now.... i hope i dont need a spring compressor. i mainly need the front springs cause i am scraping my nose pretty bad and the ride is harsh!

mrr23

you can go to autozone and get some springs for a 92 z28.
autozone 37.99 front pair 55.99 for rear. here is the part #fcs5662s for front. rcs5635v for the rear.

here's a tech article i made putting them in this 92 rs camaro


http://www.fl-thirdgen.org/frontspringswap.html

HamSpiced

37.99 each or a pair?????

thats fine but is there a difference from 89 to 92?? does it matter that i have an I-roc and thats an rs??

chitowncruiser

Ham...Auto Zone springs are the ...variable rate type... what does that mean I dont have a clue......I know when I put new springs in the rear and even though they were 4thgen ones it raised the rear up a bit and stiffened it a whole lot....the ones I had on the car made it look like a low rider in da back.....I saw another post on springs before and a guy put 95 TA spring in his and didnt have any problems with them......as for me I wanted WS6 rear springs in my Firebird just like it came stock from the factory and as soon as I get the part number for the fronts I'll put 4th gen ones in it also......alot of I guess depends on what you want for your car and how much your willing to spend on it in the long run.....i'm sure that when GM was making 1LE,WS6,Iroc springs for cars they came off of the same platform for suspension......I may be wrong but it seems like the only cars to get better suspension upgrades were the Iroc's,Z-28's,Trans am's,Formula's.......and i'm sure if you put them all side by side they are probabaly the same.........anybody else have input into stock springs.......

HamSpiced

well the only thing that pisses me off is my suspension sucks. the old oner was an ******* and let it go to hell, so of course i have tons of tents and what not in my exhaust. so if the springs work hell thats cool. i dont want it raised too much but i guess there isnt much i can do to help stop that.

spartyon

i was thinking aftermarket type springs for sprint cars and stuff. in one of my mags, me remembers, a section for camaros. what rate of spring should i get. they are like 30-40 bucks. and whats the size of the spring so i can make sure.thanks in advance

vjo90RS8

iTrader: (1)

i put a Eibach ProKit in place of my 145K mile springs and they did not lower my car a bit and thats exactly what i was hoping for, you might be able to put some 1" lowering springs with the new thicker GM spring isolators and not experience a drop.

mrr23

you won't be able to put 4th gen front springs on a third gen. the fronts are coil over/ strut type.

mrr23

they are for the pair as it states. those part numbers are for a 92 z28 with a/c. they will be the same or better than the iroc ones you have now. the car we put them in was an RS. his springs were shot. 82-92 were all the same design. just different spring rates.

HamSpiced

awesome man, then how hard is it to put the springs on the front??? would i be able to do it myself? please dont tell me ill need to compress them.

mrr23

don't need a compressor

www.fl-thirdgen.org/frontspringswap.html is how i do it.

chitowncruiser

Ok ...........guess I wont be putting in 4th gen front springs in my Firebird...but I still do like the rear ones though

HamSpiced

you rule.

about how high am i gonna need to lift the car? i only have like a 20 doller jack from meijers.

mrr23

well i'd guess about 2-3 feet. enough so the lower control arm can swing out. just make sure you support the car at the frame rails just behind the tires with jackstands. that should be just enough room. then you can use the floorjack to lower and raise the arm.

1982chevycamaroz28

also when doin the rear springs. you dont have to drop the trackbar or disconnect any brake lines. all u have to do is dis connect the bolt at the bottem of the shock(s) and if need be the swap bar bolts if needed. and with the car on jack stands on the subframes and rear wheels off. u just jack up one side of the axle and then the spring should come out. and do the same for the other side.

me and my brother changed his springs in his 86 sport coupe and his 91 z28. on his 91 we had to disconnect the swap bar but other then that its just un bolting the shocks and follow what i said to do. its not that hard to do. me and my brother got his cars done in an 1 hour to an 1 1/2 for each car.

88txiroc

That was me. I got the springs from a guy who was parting out his 95 TA. They fit perfectly and made the rear of my car sit just a little higher than the front. It really made the rear of my car stiffen up.

Momar

Does anyone have the gm part number for the 1le springs?

Ben

CamarosRUS

whats the difference in the z28 springs and the ws6 springs. i dont know what i want to get for my 155xxx mile 91 z. if autozone has them that chreap ill just go get those

also where can i find a new spring isolator? mine is shot with the springs

HamSpiced

what the hells a spring isolator????

chitowncruiser

Ham..........the ..isolator......is a piece of rubber that sits on top of the spring, if it doesnt come out when you take the rears off just look up and you will see it stuck up there........it would be best to replace them on both sides when you do the rears........................and I love my 2002 WS6 rear springs on my 1992 Firebird...............

TimRS

Try Jegs. I believe they carry Energy Suspensions isolators for about $6.00 a pair.

ebmiller88

iTrader: (7)

I waited FOREVER for Energy to send me new poly front isolators and they kept pushing back the ship date, so I cancelled. Maybe they have them now..

How to change your front and rear springs:

http://photos.yahoo.com/taramiller72

Click the links...Ed

HamSpiced

ok lets get things together here cause i got the moeny and i only want to make one trip....

springs front:

92 z28 ........#fcs5662s 37.99pair autozone

or 2002 TA WS6 but no one said a part number or price...


springs rear

2002 TA WS6 rear springs.......#10305134 gmpartsdirect
$48.22ea

or

92 z28 ......rcs5635v 55.99 pair autozone



Shocks/struts

i want KYB gas adjust and GY for the struts. i dont know a good place price wise but those are the ones i want.

Spring Isolators

6 bucks through jegs. is there one through autozone i can get?


my questions are what combination will give me the best ride? should i aslo buy a bushing kit liek the ones in jegs? im sure mine are all shot to hell. while im at it i wanna ask, shoul di powdercoat the new spring si buy? will it last or is it a waste of money?

Momar

As far as the 2002 WS6 front springs, they wont work. You can only use the rears. The front on the fourthgens use shocks instead of struts. I believe that the new springs are usually black, but I dont know if it is paint, powdercoat or what. I dont think it would be worth it, but if you do decide to do it I would make sure that it powdercoating will flex with the spring instead of breaking.

Ben

HamSpiced

thats why i asked about the powdercoating... ive seen thigns where theyve busted a hammer at a piece of powdercaoted material and the coating flexes with the big indent. ok ws6 springs for the front are outta the question but ill get them for the rear...


about the bushing kit in Jegs, is it a good idea?

CamarosRUS

should i get the 92 z28 springs for my 91 Z in the rear or should i just get those for the front anf the WS6 springs for th rear? will i notice much of a difference for almost double the money?

HamSpiced

i am gonna get the ws6 for the rear cause ive heard alot of good about them...

SpeedJunkie

Does anyone know what the spring rates are on each of these springs? I reallyu need them so i can compare what the car is gonna feel like. i would really like to know the diffeernet spring rates, that would be a defiante plus then trying to find out whos car has them and what they feel is harsh or perfect

Thanks

HamSpiced

ok guys i went to autozone today in hopes of getting everything i wanted and the prices are totally different so im either getting screwed over by them or im not goin to the right place.

where can i get

92 z28 ........#fcs5662s for 37.99pair

and when i ask for the ws6 springs what do i ask for???

redcamaro83

ok this is your best bet
go to www.autozone.com
check for what you need get parts number or make shopping list and print it. u might want to register so it keeps your settings

guza

The $37 springs are part number fcs5662 for an IROC. They are rated at 706 lbs. (stiff) and are about a quarter inch shorter than Z28 springs. Z28's are part #fcs5610 about $61 they rate at 420Lbs. (less stiff). Berlinettas use a 5276 but I cannot find a rate on them.

Momar

Where did you get those part numbers? I looked them up on autozones website and they didnt show anything.

Ben

guza

go to federal mogul click on electronic catalog. The Spring rates I found here http://jeffd.50megs.com/Moog_Spring_Page.htm .

On Autozone's website I used an 85 camaro and got those part numbers

Momar

I found them. It wont just let you search by part number. You actually have to go through their menu and select everything.

Ben

Momar

Also, the ones from autozone are said to be made by perfect circle not moog. Will they still have the same spring rate? They have an s at the end of the part number on autozones site by the way. If the should have the same spring rate on the ones from autozone I may be getting new front springs soon.

Ben

HamSpiced

which ones will give the better ride?

guza

I have been trying to get that answered myself. The 5610 springs for the z28 are softer than the IROC springs. They would probably give a better ride. I haven't found the spring rate on the 5276 for the Berlinetta but, Berlinettas were supposed to have a softer ride anyway. Probably less performance handling too.

camaronewbie

When I checked out the Autozone site for these, it tells me that for my area, these are not a stocked part in stores - it seems they may only be available through the web site (at least in my area), hence maybe why your having trouble getting them at your local store.

HamSpiced

so back to my question how do i get WS6 springs? i mean im sorry if i sound really dumb but what is a WS6?

Momar

Mine said that too. It just means that the store would have to order them. You can go in and ask for them and they can order them. It will just take a few days, but you dont have to pay shipping.

Ben

Momar

WS6 is a peformance handling option on Transams. On the fourthgens the WS6 option also included ram air.

Ben

HamSpiced

ok still no idea how to search for ws6 springs....i went to www.autozone.com i searched under a 2002 TA under springs.... it showed nothing ..... so i changed the year to 98 still nothing.. can i have some help?

HamSpiced

anyone?

chitowncruiser

Ham..........go to ..........http://www.gmpartsdirect.com..........plug in the part number and it will come up coil spring rear.....you can pay for them with visa/mastercard/etc.......also you have to pay for shipping to where you live at........thats how I got my WS6 rear springs...........and they are ...stiff......if thats how you want your car to ride but im sure they will settle with time also......I think you will like them especially if you have newr sway bars and end links on your car...........

guza

The problem is he doesn't have the part number. That is what he is looking for.

HamSpiced

.......#10305134 gmpartsdirect


i got the part number, but i dont want to have to pay shipping or buy these online, i have no credit card and i dont plan on having one (obvious reasons) and i ant to see how i can get these from Autozone/Murrays.