8T8IROC

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A new intake system that both Kevin and Bret gave us some info on at the meeting:

Qouted from Holley's web site:
"Holley Stealth Ram MPFI System


Want to get "Ooo"s and "Ahhh"s every time you open the hood? Want to feel some power every time you step on the loud pedal? Then you'd better get Holley's new Stealth Ram MPFI System on your street machine.

Tunnel ram design helps you build power. Available polished finish helps you look good. Commander 950 software and electronics helps you get down the road in no time. In addition, the manifold and fuel rail kit are available separately for a direct replacement on Chevrolet TPI engines--use your factory throttle body and engine management!

So, either as a complete EFI package, or just a factory TPI upgrade, the Holley Stealth Ram is a Winner!



KEY FEATURES AND BENEFITS
Unique "Tunnel Ram" looks plus the tuneability of Holley's Commander 950 ECU.
Available polished, the Stealth Ram intake design is perfect for the street rod enthusiast.
All components are included for a No Trouble Installation.
Commander 950 controller is the most powerful tuning tool in the industry.
Easy to use Tuning Manual.
Manifold available separately under P/N 7540 and 7540P.
Fuel rail kit available separately under P/N 534-185.



MAJOR COMPETITORS
Accel "Super Ram"
TPIS "Mini Ram"



APPLICATIONS
Small-block Chevrolet V8 engines with 23-degree standard port (early) cylinder heads
Small-block TPI engines (manifold upper, lower, and fuel rail kit are a direct replacement for factory equipment)



TARGET GROUP
Street rods
Muscle cars
Drag racing
Pro street
Show-N-Shine"

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/WhatsNew/WhatsNew.html

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Kevin91Z

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Thanks Randy, thats great!

lonsal

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Yes, but we need to open up their eyes. They are missing a huge potential target group.

Lon

Kevin91Z

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I'm working on it, but I dont know how successful I'll be. I've put out some feelers on this board, and only have a handful of responses. And now that I've realized you have to use their fuel rails, like the MiniRam, that'll probably push the price up to the same as the others, $1000-1200.

Guest

Hard to say what price, but if past history is any indicator.... Only thing I notice for sure is it appears to definitely not be smog legal, theres no heat crossover/EGR source.

Why the heck cant this stuff be 5.0 Ford priced? Same amount of material and development.

8T8IROC

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Kevin, just let us know if you think it will help if we all get together and sign some sort of petition. I don't know how much weight that will carry but with the hit numbers this site has I am sure if we can get a significant members to sign up and maybe that will help your contact push the idea through at Holley. Please tell your Dad that if you guys get one as a prototype, please by all means feel free to install it on the IROC. :lala:

BretD 88GTA

Kevin,
Are you sure you have to use their fuel rails?
Note: "direct replacement on Chevrolet TPI engines" and "factory TPI upgrade"

Makes me think our factory fuel rails will work.

lonsal

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I suspect it indeed will work woth stock TPI fuel rails. But by looking at their target market, I see they are looking to replace carb's on street rods and "race only" cars. For this application they would sell it as a complete package including the computer to run it. As I see it, step one is for us to get them to CARB certify it. Step two is to get them to sell it in just the 2 pieces we would need (plenum & base). I'm not holding my breath.

Kevin91Z

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If you look closely at the pictures you see connector between the fuel rails goes down and across, instead of straight across like ours. The runners on the lower intake would get in the way of our stock fuel rails.

My next concern would be hood clearance. This intake is out now and has been put on a few test cars at Holley, but I dont know what they are, other than they're <1973 vehicles.

I'll email my contact again tonight asking for pricing.

Guest

Notice the injectors are vertical in the manifold base? They are angled on a TPI manifold, so theres no way the stock rails are gonna work without some serious (and costly) modification.

lonsal

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Shows how much a TBI guy knows. ;(

Guest

Heh.

The 'universal' fuel rails I have seen arent all that expensive. Maybe Holley will do this right and not charge an arm and a leg for this stuff.

rezinn

It looks like all they did was weld shut the runner holes in the stock plenum and cut two in the bottom, then weld it on a carb manifold with provisions for some fuel injectors. ****.. hand me a few tubes of jbweld and the manifold I can do the same thing :P

8T8IROC

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Looks quite a bit larger to me then the stock plenum not to mention that its not welded but bolted to the baseplate/manifold. But then again I guess you can't please everyone

BretD 88GTA

rezinn,
JB Weld?

There's much more to this set-up than just the plenum. It's also how the base is done. It's essentially a TPI "tunnel ram" manifold.