some pics of my ride lq9 swap
04-15-2011 | 02:44 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Question about the LQ9 swap. Is it allowed in cali with smog laws? I was under the impression that we were not allowed to use a truck motor. or did the LQ9 come in something else.
04-15-2011 | 03:47 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Any swap will pass Cali smog if it done right and it may also depends what you tell the the smog tech. I have a L31(1999 Vortec Short Block) in my car. You can't tell unless I told you.
04-15-2011 | 03:52 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
That being said it's how knowledgeable the smog referee's are when getting it inspected, in order to pass. To most LSX's are very similar in look & build.
Like Vincent said above, How would they know unless you told them?
04-15-2011 | 04:12 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Remember this, most people have to pay for labor because they don't have the know how to do it themselves nor have the place to work on their own car. You figure for a swap like that will be aleast $1500- $2500 at an authorized shop. Backyard swaps are cheaper. Put it this way, It would cost about $3500 to build a 400whp TPI engine if you do all the work yourself(since we know the route to take) and about the same to build a LSx swap into a 3gen if you do all the work yourself. I say dollar for dollar is about the same. The amount of time and labor is about the same going from car to car(LSX) or a lot of porting(TPI). But Its all good. As long as everyone is happy with the results, it's cool.
04-15-2011 | 05:19 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Remember this, most people have to pay for labor because they don't have the know how to do it themselves nor have the place to work on their own car. You figure for a swap like that will be aleast $1500- $2500 at an authorized shop. Backyard swaps are cheaper. Put it this way, It would cost about $3500 to build a 400whp TPI engine if you do all the work yourself(since we know the route to take) and about the same to build a LSx swap into a 3gen if you do all the work yourself. I say dollar for dollar is about the same. The amount of time and labor is about the same going from car to car(LSX) or a lot of porting(TPI). But Its all good. As long as everyone is happy with the results, it's cool.
What does that have to do with going into someone’s LSx build thread and claiming the TPI build is a better route?
Regardless, I would say 95% of the LSx swaps are backyard projects(check the LSx section) with no labor fees except for tuning/welding vs. the majority of TPI’s that make above 350rwhp go through Don’s shop, have custom ported/welded intakes that only a few skilled fabricators could perform. I’m sorry but with $3500 you will be lucky to get 350rwhp in a TPI, 400rwhp is going to cost a few more grand and if you want 420rwhp from your TPI you’re looking at over $10k. If you are dedicated to the TPI movement that’s fine but the LSx route is a great alternative if you have a 3rd gen and want to make 400-470 rwhp with off-the shelf parts and not be limited to 400rwhp.
04-16-2011 | 02:11 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
damn no luv for lsx thirdgens thanks for the guys that comment on my page i have nothing against tpi or carbs. like i said be for my car was a carb 350 and i love it but i blew it racing it. i got a good deal on my new motor and i love it more. But i hope that one day we can all get along with out fighting. who cares what motor u have its still a third gen the one that we should be against is FORDS!!!!!!! TPI TERR u going tomarrow to taf meet
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04-16-2011 | 10:50 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
I agree with you, it used to be a lot of fun around here.
Anymore the attitudes ruin it for everyone.
A guy states his opinion and some people see that as a reason to attack.
Let's get back to the thirdgens and fun, leave the rest out.
Now back on topic,
Your car turned out nice. Congrats!
04-17-2011 | 12:55 AM
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04-17-2011 | 12:56 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
I agree with you, it used to be a lot of fun around here.
Anymore the attitudes ruin it for everyone.
A guy states his opinion and some people see that as a reason to attack.
Let's get back to the thirdgens and fun, leave the rest out.
Now back on topic,
Your car turned out nice. Congrats!
Anymore the attitudes ruin it for everyone.
A guy states his opinion and some people see that as a reason to attack.
Let's get back to the thirdgens and fun, leave the rest out.
Now back on topic,
Your car turned out nice. Congrats!
thanks don
04-17-2011 | 09:47 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
One cannot use a truck intake system on a passenger car in California. A 5.3L, 6.0L, or 6.2L LSx engine from a truck would require you to change to a LS1/LS2/LS3 intake manifold to use in a car. And then you would have to change the front accessories too, as I believe the truck ones will not fit with a LS1-style intake. Then I also heard the truck heads dont have the same bolt holes as a car so the car accessories will not bolt up correctly. Is that true?
04-17-2011 | 09:55 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
What does that have to do with going into someone’s LSx build thread and claiming the TPI build is a better route?
Regardless, I would say 95% of the LSx swaps are backyard projects(check the LSx section) with no labor fees except for tuning/welding vs. the majority of TPI’s that make above 350rwhp go through Don’s shop, have custom ported/welded intakes that only a few skilled fabricators could perform. I’m sorry but with $3500 you will be lucky to get 350rwhp in a TPI, 400rwhp is going to cost a few more grand and if you want 420rwhp from your TPI you’re looking at over $10k. If you are dedicated to the TPI movement that’s fine but the LSx route is a great alternative if you have a 3rd gen and want to make 400-470 rwhp with off-the shelf parts and not be limited to 400rwhp.
Regardless, I would say 95% of the LSx swaps are backyard projects(check the LSx section) with no labor fees except for tuning/welding vs. the majority of TPI’s that make above 350rwhp go through Don’s shop, have custom ported/welded intakes that only a few skilled fabricators could perform. I’m sorry but with $3500 you will be lucky to get 350rwhp in a TPI, 400rwhp is going to cost a few more grand and if you want 420rwhp from your TPI you’re looking at over $10k. If you are dedicated to the TPI movement that’s fine but the LSx route is a great alternative if you have a 3rd gen and want to make 400-470 rwhp with off-the shelf parts and not be limited to 400rwhp.
I have seen posts from you and TPI TERR that claim you can swap in an LSx engine into a thirdgen for a few hundred dollars. I find that as absurd as the claim that Allen's engine cost over $12k. And even if one was able to do the swap for <$1000, you still have a stock LSx engine in your car that is going to get beaten by our built-up TPI engines. But hey, at least you can say you have an LS1 in your car!
04-17-2011 | 10:35 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
I agree with you, it used to be a lot of fun around here.
Anymore the attitudes ruin it for everyone.
A guy states his opinion and some people see that as a reason to attack.
Let's get back to the thirdgens and fun, leave the rest out.
Now back on topic,
Your car turned out nice. Congrats!
Anymore the attitudes ruin it for everyone.
A guy states his opinion and some people see that as a reason to attack.
Let's get back to the thirdgens and fun, leave the rest out.
Now back on topic,
Your car turned out nice. Congrats!
I hope that one day all the so cal community can unite and have a fun day chilling with each other and not caring what engine they got under the hood and just have a fun day
04-17-2011 | 10:44 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
From What your father told me is that my 4 bolt main block came out of a 1998-1999 truck. The L98 was the last standard 350 block that came in a passenger car. After that the casting numbers change and they became truck engines.
04-17-2011 | 12:01 PM
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That may be where yours came from, but when GM phased out the 638 blocks (L98), the 880 block became the replacement for all 5.7 engines and they were all roller blocks.
04-17-2011 | 12:25 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
you still have a stock LSx engine in your car that is going to get beaten by our built-up TPI engines. But hey, at least you can say you have an LS1 in your car!
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04-17-2011 | 12:56 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Wow great way to kill a build thread. Lol
Jr the so cal mods have a different attiitude towards ltx/lsx guys.
Id post this lq swap in the ltx/lsx thread you'll get positive comments and recognition not what we see as "hatred" here lol
I don't think we build our cars to go againts the tpi cult but for other reasons. The big boys event that mike organized was an example of a real tgo community, that's exactly how this forum should be. But its not due to certain people who get bothered to see people not going with the tpi business.?
Jr the so cal mods have a different attiitude towards ltx/lsx guys.
Id post this lq swap in the ltx/lsx thread you'll get positive comments and recognition not what we see as "hatred" here lol
I don't think we build our cars to go againts the tpi cult but for other reasons. The big boys event that mike organized was an example of a real tgo community, that's exactly how this forum should be. But its not due to certain people who get bothered to see people not going with the tpi business.?
04-17-2011 | 01:00 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
"Downplaying that Beastly $12k motor of yours"
Yeah, I have seen that number bantered around. It is nice to know that I still have some money to spend to reach my $12K budget.
Lets, see a new cold air intake is in the works. New long tube runner intake system is in the works. 17" GTA wheels are being built. Yep, it won't take long to get there. 
Then there is the new paint job, reupholstering of the front seats, detailing of the car and on and on the list goes. With all that I will exceed that amount easily. One might think my hobby is a bottomless money pit. Hahahahaha.
Yeah, I have seen that number bantered around. It is nice to know that I still have some money to spend to reach my $12K budget.
Lets, see a new cold air intake is in the works. New long tube runner intake system is in the works. 17" GTA wheels are being built. Yep, it won't take long to get there. Then there is the new paint job, reupholstering of the front seats, detailing of the car and on and on the list goes. With all that I will exceed that amount easily. One might think my hobby is a bottomless money pit. Hahahahaha.
04-17-2011 | 01:31 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Wow great way to kill a build thread. Lol
Jr the so cal mods have a different attiitude towards ltx/lsx guys.
Id post this lq swap in the ltx/lsx thread you'll get positive comments and recognition not what we see as "hatred" here lol
I don't think we build our cars to go againts the tpi cult but for other reasons. The big boys event that mike organized was an example of a real tgo community, that's exactly how this forum should be.
But its not due to certain people who get bothered to see people not going with the tpi business.?
Jr the so cal mods have a different attiitude towards ltx/lsx guys.
Id post this lq swap in the ltx/lsx thread you'll get positive comments and recognition not what we see as "hatred" here lol
I don't think we build our cars to go againts the tpi cult but for other reasons. The big boys event that mike organized was an example of a real tgo community, that's exactly how this forum should be.
But its not due to certain people who get bothered to see people not going with the tpi business.?
04-17-2011 | 01:42 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
There's no cult, and there's no hatred. The only hatred I've gotten is from 4th genners who think because their cars came with LS1's, that their crap doesnt stink. I have seen the same attitude from some LSx owners in other cars as well, who think an LS1 swap is the ONLY engine that belongs in any car, and any other swap is worthless and more expensive. Just my two cents.
Our goal with the SoCal TPI club is to prove that TPI is NOT a dead setup, that its still worth while to build, and that you can make LS1 power with one. Only because the LS1 family of engines is GM's current bread and butter and the standard to which everything else is compared. I couldnt care less if you dont want to bring your car to Don's shop to have him work on it, or if you dont want me to tune it for you. Its not about that and I laugh that you think that way. Don and I are busy enough because I'm sure you know it takes a lot of time and money to keep up with the LS1 guys.
Our goal with the SoCal TPI club is to prove that TPI is NOT a dead setup, that its still worth while to build, and that you can make LS1 power with one. Only because the LS1 family of engines is GM's current bread and butter and the standard to which everything else is compared. I couldnt care less if you dont want to bring your car to Don's shop to have him work on it, or if you dont want me to tune it for you. Its not about that and I laugh that you think that way. Don and I are busy enough because I'm sure you know it takes a lot of time and money to keep up with the LS1 guys.
04-17-2011 | 02:52 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
As a business/shop owner I don't think you have ever stepped forward towards any ls powered 3rd gen project. I know you probably share no interest in it because it has no relationship with your work. Hey I'm not going to get butthurt or offended. Lol
I can careless, plenty of people were glad to see the ls1 3rd gens at the big boys meet. Even vincent was excited to see my car .lol
4th gen guys sharing no interest in the mighty tpi at the track?. What do you expect?
My interest in the so cal tpi goal probably decreased due to your attitude on this so cal 3rd gen community/public forum
Back to jrs thread.
I can careless, plenty of people were glad to see the ls1 3rd gens at the big boys meet. Even vincent was excited to see my car .lol
4th gen guys sharing no interest in the mighty tpi at the track?. What do you expect?
My interest in the so cal tpi goal probably decreased due to your attitude on this so cal 3rd gen community/public forum
Back to jrs thread.
04-17-2011 | 03:47 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Time to close this thread, nothing but barbs jabbing back and forth.
Even the original Poster has asked for peace, to no avail.
Even the original Poster has asked for peace, to no avail.
04-17-2011 | 04:01 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
It's easy to say this. However, there is a reason these kats that have LS1's in their cars have reacted how they have. The words that are typed can come off cultish which propagates hatred. So then if you feel differently, then type your words accordingly. Think before you type is one suggestion I have.
Just like you stated with your 2 cents comment here. They expressed their opinions as well. However, your 2 cents are not appropriate for this thread considering the OP posted pics of his swap just to have a show & tell so to speak. For support and to have a supportive experience with his accomplishment.
Next the fact that your the moderator on this board and have continued off topic discussions plus have not either gotten folks back on track yet continued the banter. It gives the impression that your biased when you say your not.
To prove that it's not dead? It's a fact that it's dead. Whether it's the aftermarket or from GM itself. If it was a relevant induction then it would much more viable than it is. The fact there aren't many tuners or for that matter many knowledgeable shops that can work on these cars. For example we have a sticky for company's that are 3rd gen friendly. Due to the fact the scarcity of company's or individuals who work on them. Your club is to encourage and create a supportive environment for the work and time you fellas put into the TPI system. And push the limits the stock system couldn't meet. Yet this doesn't change the fact it is no longer relevant in the performance world.
I myself love my TPI driven vehicle. I have owned 3 camaros & the 1 trans am. All have had TPI system. Yet I do not kid myself into thinkin it's THE system or engine to have in my car. And I am fine with that reality. Just as I am fine with the LSX swappers. These are all 3rd gens regardless of the engine. The car still has all the wonderful limitations they posses whether it's TPI or LSX or LTX or whuteva....
This is TGO. Third gen dot org. This site is for ALL thirdgens. Regardless of the powerplant. Thats why there are LSX & LTX sub-forums on THIS site. Because its all relevant to the purpose of these cars.
If your opinion differs, then thats fine. Your entitled to it. However how you express it & where also matters as well. Especially concerning to this subject and/or to threads like these.
To the LSX/LTX swappers:
Keep doing what it is you do. You should have to feel the need to only post in the LSX/LTX sub-forums. EVERYONE is/should be welcome in the So-Cal forum. I enjoy hoppin on here to look @ the projects and pics that occur in this region. I enjoy looking @ the creativity that comes from an individuals vision. @ the end of the day it's YOUR vision. Follow it and be proud of your work.
Let's be civil! When being critical, it is perfectly possible to be civil and get your point across without feelings getting stepped on. Just think before you type
Peace
Adrian
The only hatred I've gotten is from 4th genners who think because their cars came with LS1's, that their crap doesnt stink. I have seen the same attitude from some LSx owners in other cars as well, who think an LS1 swap is the ONLY engine that belongs in any car, and any other swap is worthless and more expensive. Just my two cents.
Next the fact that your the moderator on this board and have continued off topic discussions plus have not either gotten folks back on track yet continued the banter. It gives the impression that your biased when you say your not.
I myself love my TPI driven vehicle. I have owned 3 camaros & the 1 trans am. All have had TPI system. Yet I do not kid myself into thinkin it's THE system or engine to have in my car. And I am fine with that reality. Just as I am fine with the LSX swappers. These are all 3rd gens regardless of the engine. The car still has all the wonderful limitations they posses whether it's TPI or LSX or LTX or whuteva....
This is TGO. Third gen dot org. This site is for ALL thirdgens. Regardless of the powerplant. Thats why there are LSX & LTX sub-forums on THIS site. Because its all relevant to the purpose of these cars.
If your opinion differs, then thats fine. Your entitled to it. However how you express it & where also matters as well. Especially concerning to this subject and/or to threads like these.
To the LSX/LTX swappers:
Keep doing what it is you do. You should have to feel the need to only post in the LSX/LTX sub-forums. EVERYONE is/should be welcome in the So-Cal forum. I enjoy hoppin on here to look @ the projects and pics that occur in this region. I enjoy looking @ the creativity that comes from an individuals vision. @ the end of the day it's YOUR vision. Follow it and be proud of your work.
Let's be civil! When being critical, it is perfectly possible to be civil and get your point across without feelings getting stepped on. Just think before you type
Peace
Adrian
04-17-2011 | 04:18 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
"Downplaying that Beastly $12k motor of yours"
Yeah, I have seen that number bantered around. It is nice to know that I still have some money to spend to reach my $12K budget. Lets, see a new cold air intake is in the works. New long tube runner intake system is in the works. 17" GTA wheels are being built. Yep, it won't take long to get there. Then there is the new paint job, reupholstering of the front seats, detailing of the car and on and on the list goes. With all that I will exceed that amount easily. One might think my hobby is a bottomless money pit. Hahahahaha.
Yeah, I have seen that number bantered around. It is nice to know that I still have some money to spend to reach my $12K budget.
Lets, see a new cold air intake is in the works. New long tube runner intake system is in the works. 17" GTA wheels are being built. Yep, it won't take long to get there. Then there is the new paint job, reupholstering of the front seats, detailing of the car and on and on the list goes. With all that I will exceed that amount easily. One might think my hobby is a bottomless money pit. Hahahahaha.Dart SHP block $1,400.00
Rotating assembly$900
AFR 195 $2,000.00
FIRST TPI $1,000.00
Aftermarket throttle body $500.00??
Dyno Don Heders $550.00
Custom exhaust $600-$1000?
Cam $300
Rockers, Lifters, pushrods, etc $500
Injectors $340
UD Pulleys $200
Fuel Pressure Reg $60-$100
Walbro Fuel Pump $130
Aftermarket HEI Distibutor $200
Ignition coil $50-60
MSD 6AL $200
Meziere elc water pump $400
TPI Prom + tunning $200-400??
About $10k in just parts plus all the custom porting/welding/machining etc $3,000.00+++
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04-17-2011 | 04:32 PM
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I can't believe the direction this thread has taken. My apologies to the original poster if I have in some way contributed to what is taking place. You Sir have a fine car and I look forward to seeing it run at the Los Angeles Invasion. When you do get the heads and cam on it I am quite sure you will need a roll bar or you will only make one pass before getting booted for being to fast.
As to the above list, lets just say there are some errors and I will leave it at that before another war erupts.
As to the above list, lets just say there are some errors and I will leave it at that before another war erupts.
04-17-2011 | 04:33 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
no reason to close the thread... this is a great source of motivation for those of us in the middle of an ls swap. And I believe the "debate" started when a member was discouraged from doing the swap because it would "bastardize" his third gen. Which in my opinion is rude and a jab at all those who worked so hard to do their swap.
04-17-2011 | 04:42 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
It's easy to say this. However, there is a reason these kats that have LS1's in their cars have reacted how they have. The words that are typed can come off cultish which propagates hatred. So then if you feel differently, then type your words accordingly. Think before you type is one suggestion I have.
Just like you stated with your 2 cents comment here. They expressed their opinions as well. However, your 2 cents are not appropriate for this thread considering the OP posted pics of his swap just to have a show & tell so to speak. For support and to have a supportive experience with his accomplishment.
Next the fact that your the moderator on this board and have continued off topic discussions plus have not either gotten folks back on track yet continued the banter. It gives the impression that your biased when you say your not.
To prove that it's not dead? It's a fact that it's dead. Whether it's the aftermarket or from GM itself. If it was a relevant induction then it would much more viable than it is. The fact there aren't many tuners or for that matter many knowledgeable shops that can work on these cars. For example we have a sticky for company's that are 3rd gen friendly. Due to the fact the scarcity of company's or individuals who work on them. Your club is to encourage and create a supportive environment for the work and time you fellas put into the TPI system. And push the limits the stock system couldn't meet. Yet this doesn't change the fact it is no longer relevant in the performance world.
I myself love my TPI driven vehicle. I have owned 3 camaros & the 1 trans am. All have had TPI system. Yet I do not kid myself into thinkin it's THE system or engine to have in my car. And I am fine with that reality. Just as I am fine with the LSX swappers. These are all 3rd gens regardless of the engine. The car still has all the wonderful limitations they posses whether it's TPI or LSX or LTX or whuteva....
This is TGO. Third gen dot org. This site is for ALL thirdgens. Regardless of the powerplant. Thats why there are LSX & LTX sub-forums on THIS site. Because its all relevant to the purpose of these cars.
If your opinion differs, then thats fine. Your entitled to it. However how you express it & where also matters as well. Especially concerning to this subject and/or to threads like these.
To the LSX/LTX swappers:
Keep doing what it is you do. You should have to feel the need to only post in the LSX/LTX sub-forums. EVERYONE is/should be welcome in the So-Cal forum. I enjoy hoppin on here to look @ the projects and pics that occur in this region. I enjoy looking @ the creativity that comes from an individuals vision. @ the end of the day it's YOUR vision. Follow it and be proud of your work.
Let's be civil! When being critical, it is perfectly possible to be civil and get your point across without feelings getting stepped on. Just think before you type
Peace
Adrian
Just like you stated with your 2 cents comment here. They expressed their opinions as well. However, your 2 cents are not appropriate for this thread considering the OP posted pics of his swap just to have a show & tell so to speak. For support and to have a supportive experience with his accomplishment.
Next the fact that your the moderator on this board and have continued off topic discussions plus have not either gotten folks back on track yet continued the banter. It gives the impression that your biased when you say your not.
To prove that it's not dead? It's a fact that it's dead. Whether it's the aftermarket or from GM itself. If it was a relevant induction then it would much more viable than it is. The fact there aren't many tuners or for that matter many knowledgeable shops that can work on these cars. For example we have a sticky for company's that are 3rd gen friendly. Due to the fact the scarcity of company's or individuals who work on them. Your club is to encourage and create a supportive environment for the work and time you fellas put into the TPI system. And push the limits the stock system couldn't meet. Yet this doesn't change the fact it is no longer relevant in the performance world.
I myself love my TPI driven vehicle. I have owned 3 camaros & the 1 trans am. All have had TPI system. Yet I do not kid myself into thinkin it's THE system or engine to have in my car. And I am fine with that reality. Just as I am fine with the LSX swappers. These are all 3rd gens regardless of the engine. The car still has all the wonderful limitations they posses whether it's TPI or LSX or LTX or whuteva....
This is TGO. Third gen dot org. This site is for ALL thirdgens. Regardless of the powerplant. Thats why there are LSX & LTX sub-forums on THIS site. Because its all relevant to the purpose of these cars.
If your opinion differs, then thats fine. Your entitled to it. However how you express it & where also matters as well. Especially concerning to this subject and/or to threads like these.
To the LSX/LTX swappers:
Keep doing what it is you do. You should have to feel the need to only post in the LSX/LTX sub-forums. EVERYONE is/should be welcome in the So-Cal forum. I enjoy hoppin on here to look @ the projects and pics that occur in this region. I enjoy looking @ the creativity that comes from an individuals vision. @ the end of the day it's YOUR vision. Follow it and be proud of your work.
Let's be civil! When being critical, it is perfectly possible to be civil and get your point across without feelings getting stepped on. Just think before you type
Peace
Adrian
no reason to close the thread... this is a great source of motivation for those of us in the middle of an ls swap. And I believe the "debate" started when a member was discouraged from doing the swap because it would "bastardize" his third gen. Which in my opinion is rude and a jab at all those who worked so hard to do their swap.
Back on topic cali generalZ, what head and cam package are you going with? It's cool if you want to keep it a secret, either way it's going to be a beast!!!!
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04-17-2011 | 05:49 PM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
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Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
no reason to close the thread... this is a great source of motivation for those of us in the middle of an ls swap. And I believe the "debate" started when a member was discouraged from doing the swap because it would "bastardize" his third gen. Which in my opinion is rude and a jab at all those who worked so hard to do their swap.
When I suggested he keep his third gen all third gen, I was dumped on by the other crowd.
Yeah, that pissed me off, so I retaliated by using that "word" for which I now regret.
I also apologize for my rude behavoir, and to the OP.
Everyone that knows me, know, all I have ever done is try to help and improve the third gen world.
If I have stepped on toes I am sorry.
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04-17-2011 | 06:18 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Don, you have apologized many times over. However the attacks continue unabated including some people who I thought would be more adult about it. Just amazing. I guess some people for whatever reason do not want things to mend. I am really sorry for that. Things could be so good.
Again sorry for taking the post off course.
Again sorry for taking the post off course.
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04-17-2011 | 07:08 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
As to the above list, lets just say there are some errors and I will leave it at that before another war erupts.
Anyway, after he's done making fun of me for how much I spent he then makes fun of me because I did not spend even more money on a six-speed transmission.
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04-17-2011 | 07:33 PM
#83
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
I bet if I started a thread about kittens and puppies it would turn into a LSx vs TPI thread.
Either way what I like most is how you incorporated the fourth gen cluster into your car with the stock interior. I love the thirdgen camaro interior and that was a clever way to have functioning cluster without the whole fourthgen interiror swap.
For the 89 RS 5-spd I just bought, I would like to do an LSx swap and do the same thing with the cluster.
Either way what I like most is how you incorporated the fourth gen cluster into your car with the stock interior. I love the thirdgen camaro interior and that was a clever way to have functioning cluster without the whole fourthgen interiror swap.
For the 89 RS 5-spd I just bought, I would like to do an LSx swap and do the same thing with the cluster.
04-17-2011 | 07:37 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
oh please... Does anyone remember this thread? https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...e-5-7-tpi.html
This member was attacked for wanting to swap in an ls1 in a tbi'd vert (I thought you were only against tpi cars getting the swap?). Its not about keeping the tpi alive its about keeping the ls1 down. Thats why it was created right? wrong, we all know why it was created.. All these impossible and expensive ls swaps are showing up to the meets and representing. You may think I'm wrong but the facts are all there.
This member was attacked for wanting to swap in an ls1 in a tbi'd vert (I thought you were only against tpi cars getting the swap?). Its not about keeping the tpi alive its about keeping the ls1 down. Thats why it was created right? wrong, we all know why it was created..
All these impossible and expensive ls swaps are showing up to the meets and representing. You may think I'm wrong but the facts are all there.
04-17-2011 | 08:09 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
"oh please"
We know all about that thread. Again Don has apologized for his part and once again in this thread. Why do you want to keep bringing it up? Are you going to part of the problem or part of the solution? Everyone needs to ask themselves that question. Only you meaning everyone involved can make that choice.
We know all about that thread. Again Don has apologized for his part and once again in this thread. Why do you want to keep bringing it up? Are you going to part of the problem or part of the solution? Everyone needs to ask themselves that question. Only you meaning everyone involved can make that choice.
04-18-2011 | 01:34 AM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
its cool guys, like i said, i have no hate on any third gen. and mike that would be sick on the cluster. i like to be creative when i mod out my car. i thinks that goes for everybody. but the thing i hate is when you try to make peace and someone has to mess it up for everybody.. and for don, its cool i think your a cool cat. keep doing what u do. for everybody that made good comments on this thread thanks i do appreciate it.Thats what motivate me to do more. For the heads and cam i going with some 706 heads fully port and polished and i belive they have bigger valves done to it, for the cam im giong with a texas v2 cam. i hope i can spin thoes tires a mile long. jk lol
but the thing i hate is when you try to make peace and someone has to mess it up for everybody.. and for don, its cool i think your a cool cat. keep doing what u do. for everybody that made good comments on this thread thanks i do appreciate it.Thats what motivate me to do more. For the heads and cam i going with some 706 heads fully port and polished and i belive they have bigger valves done to it, for the cam im giong with a texas v2 cam. i hope i can spin thoes tires a mile long. jk lol
04-18-2011 | 11:08 AM
#87
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
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Transmission: Tremec T56
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
As a business/shop owner I don't think you have ever stepped forward towards any ls powered 3rd gen project. I know you probably share no interest in it because it has no relationship with your work. Hey I'm not going to get butthurt or offended. Lol
I can careless, plenty of people were glad to see the ls1 3rd gens at the big boys meet. Even vincent was excited to see my car .lol
4th gen guys sharing no interest in the mighty tpi at the track?. What do you expect?
My interest in the so cal tpi goal probably decreased due to your attitude on this so cal 3rd gen community/public forum
Back to jrs thread.
I can careless, plenty of people were glad to see the ls1 3rd gens at the big boys meet. Even vincent was excited to see my car .lol
4th gen guys sharing no interest in the mighty tpi at the track?. What do you expect?
My interest in the so cal tpi goal probably decreased due to your attitude on this so cal 3rd gen community/public forum
Back to jrs thread.
Everyone expects an LSx based combo to be fast. If you're still in the 13's with an LS1, you're slow. But to see a TPI in the 12's or faster, that's an accomplishment.
What attitude? I'm not allowed to have an opinion unless its the same as yours?
04-18-2011 | 11:20 AM
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Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
To prove that it's not dead? It's a fact that it's dead. Whether it's the aftermarket or from GM itself. If it was a relevant induction then it would much more viable than it is. The fact there aren't many tuners or for that matter many knowledgeable shops that can work on these cars. For example we have a sticky for company's that are 3rd gen friendly. Due to the fact the scarcity of company's or individuals who work on them. Your club is to encourage and create a supportive environment for the work and time you fellas put into the TPI system. And push the limits the stock system couldn't meet. Yet this doesn't change the fact it is no longer relevant in the performance world.
Let's be civil! When being critical, it is perfectly possible to be civil and get your point across without feelings getting stepped on. Just think before you type
Peace
Adrian
Let's be civil! When being critical, it is perfectly possible to be civil and get your point across without feelings getting stepped on. Just think before you type
Peace
Adrian
I merely respond to posts that say the TPI system is old technology, that it cannot be made to perform, and the only way to make cheap power is to swap in an LS1. I have NEVER said the TPI is better, or that you can make more power with a TPI, or that LS1's suck. I have simply said that you dont need to swap in an LS1 because nowadays the TPI system's potential has been unlocked. And I have always given credit to Jerry for his vision and ideas in discovering the secret to making TPI work.
And in my defense and support of the TPI engine, I have been attacked, slammed, and insulted by LSx owners who refuse to believe that there is any alternative to the almighty LSx engine.
04-18-2011 | 11:27 AM
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
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Transmission: Tremec T56
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Thank you, I guess others are also thinking what I'm thinking. I was hesitant to even post in this section or attend the SC3G meeting in the past because I thought it was dominated by TPI cult members. Boy was I wrong, SC3G has some real cool members and is very professionally managed.
I agree with this, the SoCal section needs an LSx friendly Moderator so that we don't get our threads locked when the TPI guys don't like it.
I'm happy for people who are able to swap a complete engine into their thirdgen, and a little bit jealous too. It means the thirdgen platform is still alive because people are choosing to modify one instead of buying a 4th gen or newer vehicle. It means one more thirdgen out on the road and at the race track instead of a sea of "me too" 4th gens.
04-18-2011 | 11:34 AM
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
oh please... Does anyone remember this thread? https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...e-5-7-tpi.html
This member was attacked for wanting to swap in an ls1 in a tbi'd vert (I thought you were only against tpi cars getting the swap?). Its not about keeping the tpi alive its about keeping the ls1 down. Thats why it was created right? wrong, we all know why it was created.. All these impossible and expensive ls swaps are showing up to the meets and representing. You may think I'm wrong but the facts are all there.
This member was attacked for wanting to swap in an ls1 in a tbi'd vert (I thought you were only against tpi cars getting the swap?). Its not about keeping the tpi alive its about keeping the ls1 down. Thats why it was created right? wrong, we all know why it was created..
All these impossible and expensive ls swaps are showing up to the meets and representing. You may think I'm wrong but the facts are all there.As I have always said, SCTPI was created by Don and myself, and joined by several other TPI-owning members to support, promote, and race the TPI engine in thirdgen f-bodies, C4 Corvettes, and other vehicles with TPI engine swaps. I've said this too, a minor reason was because Don and I, and several other people were upset and unhappy with the leadership and direction the SC3g club was going. We went our separate ways and formed our own group. We could have made another thirdgen club and directly competed with SC3g, but we did not want that. We decided to focus on the TPI engine only, and open the membership to all cars with TPI engines so there would be no "stealing members." People are free to belong to both clubs, one club, or neither club, as I said above.
04-18-2011 | 11:37 AM
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
its cool guys, like i said, i have no hate on any third gen. and mike that would be sick on the cluster. i like to be creative when i mod out my car. i thinks that goes for everybody. but the thing i hate is when you try to make peace and someone has to mess it up for everybody.. and for don, its cool i think your a cool cat. keep doing what u do. for everybody that made good comments on this thread thanks i do appreciate it.Thats what motivate me to do more. For the heads and cam i going with some 706 heads fully port and polished and i belive they have bigger valves done to it, for the cam im giong with a texas v2 cam. i hope i can spin thoes tires a mile long. jk lol
but the thing i hate is when you try to make peace and someone has to mess it up for everybody.. and for don, its cool i think your a cool cat. keep doing what u do. for everybody that made good comments on this thread thanks i do appreciate it.Thats what motivate me to do more. For the heads and cam i going with some 706 heads fully port and polished and i belive they have bigger valves done to it, for the cam im giong with a texas v2 cam. i hope i can spin thoes tires a mile long. jk lol
04-18-2011 | 11:40 AM
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04-18-2011 | 12:39 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
I’m not here to “trash talk” either LSX, TPI, TBI, Carb, V6s……..even the 4 cylinder guys (IF there any left out there). What we do is HARD! Make no mistakes about it! I have many cuts, scrapes, bruises to show for it! What we do is a MAJOR labor of love for this art form. What we do is an ART make no if ands or buts about it! We ALL turn these “basket cases” into something we can be proud of! I love watching people bringing cars from the brink of extition. I operate a shop in Culver City and its sad to say most shops here don’t want to work on “old cars”, I’ve had my hands on cars as old as 1937! What we need to remember is NO matter what we plan to do with our cars (race, cruise, off road, scrape, hop….) it’s what makes us ALL indiviuals! If we did what everybody was doing we would all be driving a Prius. So next time you see that another third gen with a LSX, TPI, TBI, Carb, or V6, give that man (or girl) a nod of respect because he went through the same trails and tribulations as you did in showing our Third Gens the love they truly deserve!
04-18-2011 | 04:51 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
There is a difference between attitude and opinion.
Attitude = calling LSx "basterdized," going into someone's LSx thread where they have put blood, sweat, and tears and telling them they have wasted time and money when they should have gone with a TPI.
Opinion = keep the TPI for nostalgic reasons and have a built H/C/ etc TPI that can compete with bolt-ons LS1's.
I could go back and find the insulting quotes and attitudes from the TPI cult members just like I did when I exposed them to the rest of the TGO community but I think the were ridiculed enough. All I will say is that I got called out by several TPI builds that were going to blow the doors off my "basterdized" 3rd gen's at the track but that didn't happen
Talk is cheap....
04-18-2011 | 08:13 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
I notice that most of the LSX swaps don't have an overflow bottle. You guys don't need it or what? Is it required for the track? Just asking!
04-18-2011 | 08:45 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
"Attitude = calling LSx "basterdized," going into someone's LSx thread where they have put blood, sweat, and tears and telling them they have wasted time and money when they should have gone with a TPI."
It is quite obvious you have chosen the route to continue to be part of the problem. Don has apologized numerous time for what he said. It is also quite obvious that you have elected to not accept his apology. I guess you get a kick of of keeping things stirred up. As far as I am concerned with your attitude stay the hell away from me. I want nothing to do with the likes of you.
It is quite obvious you have chosen the route to continue to be part of the problem. Don has apologized numerous time for what he said. It is also quite obvious that you have elected to not accept his apology. I guess you get a kick of of keeping things stirred up. As far as I am concerned with your attitude stay the hell away from me. I want nothing to do with the likes of you.
04-18-2011 | 08:49 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
04-18-2011 | 08:57 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
Attitude = calling LSx "basterdized," going into someone's LSx thread where they have put blood, sweat, and tears and telling them they have wasted time and money when they should have gone with a TPI.
I could go back and find the insulting quotes and attitudes from the TPI cult members just like I did when I exposed them to the rest of the TGO community but I think the were ridiculed enough. All I will say is that I got called out by several TPI builds that were going to blow the doors off my "basterdized" 3rd gen's at the track but that didn't happen
Talk is cheap....And you keep on bringing up the word "basterdized" as if people were still calling lsx thirdgen cars that. In post #80 on this thread, the person that used that word says he regrets it. Almost every time that word is used now, it is as a reference tool to take a shot on certain TPI members.
This whole tpi/lsx conflict is a scab that people wont let heal. Seems there is too much fun at just picking at it, and when that happens it wont heal properly.
04-18-2011 | 09:01 PM
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Re: some pics of my ride lq9 swap
And to my previous post, I didnt realize Allen already responded. I am in no way of having the intention to gang up on people.
04-18-2011 | 09:09 PM
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