Well, I finally came to the conlussion not to fix my iroc convertible even though it wasnt is bad as i thought it was. Anyways as of today i bought a new camaro, it is a 1990 iroc z with 9258 orignal miles. the car is completly stock. nothing has been removed or replaced. The car is a 305 tpi with the 700r4. Around December i will be putting the zz 383 from my white car into the red one. i will also be using my transmission. tell me what u think of my new iroc.

 

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Looks Sweet.. Do you like it as much as your last Vert? Where did you find this Iroc? So you still have the other Vert? What are you going to do with it?

 

well i havent recieved the car, i bought the car out of pa and while its the spohn sub frame connectors I still have my old iroc still not sure if i will keep it and let it sit for a while until the iroc convertible are worth alot of money or just take the parts off that i want to keep like the wheels, interior, engine, and exhaust. i really dont want to drive the car with the orignal tires on it, so i am going to put iroc rims on the car. hopefully, by sometime in december i will put my zz 383 in this car, but no matter what i am keeping the orignal engine and orignal parts because it still is a low mile car and is a 90 iroc vert. i know some people are dissapointed to see me swap a new engine in a low mile car ,but it is not like i am selling the orignal. long post
bryan

 

i do have a question tho, the car did not come with A.I.R. from the facotry will i have to add that because it is coming into california?

 

9,000 miles? That's insane.

 

All thirdgens with V8's (not sure about V6's) came with AIR tubes on the exhaust manifolds, its part of the smog equipment. Yes you will have to add it back on there, as well as the smog pump and anything else that was removed.

Congrats on your purchase!

 

Well FYI as soon as I get moved, I will be dragging out the Damage Magnet and eventually get the Transmission fixed in it. That car has just under 12000 miles on the clock.

 

so do u guys think it would be bad if i put the zz 383 in this car with my old transmission? cause of it being a low mile orignal car except for having sub frame connectors on it and a after market stereo?

 

Depends on to whom you talk. If you talk to a stock purist like Manny, he'll tell you to leave it alone. In this case I would agree. Adding too much power to a convertible is a waste of time. You cant take it to the race track without a roll bar, and the torque will just twist the weak body and frame anyway.

Do stock mods, like 3.23 rear end gears and posi, disc brakes, 2000 stall Corvette converter, that sort of thing. Those things will make the car more fun to drive without affecting the reliability.

 

 

That Vert is georgeous! I would not put a bigger engine in it for the reasons Kevin stated. Third Gen coupes are readily available. I would suggest keeping the vert stock, and get a coupe to put the 383 in if you want a high hp car. If you take the vert to the track with the 383 in it, you would probably only get one run in before your e.t. dropped into the range where you would need a full roll cage. As Kevin said, the power and torque of a 383 will twist the vert's structure even with sfc's and probably cause the unit body to start cracking.

 

I would definitely not hesitate about modifying your new car. It looks gorgeous, and should have some mechanicals to back it up. You may have paid a lot for that car in nice shape, but if you buy a lesser car to put your 383 in and do all the work to have it be at the same standard, you will pay a whole lot more. In the forseeable future, that car will certainly be worth more to you than it will be worth monetarily, so you should enjoy it as such.

 

If it did not come from the factory with A.I.R. you won't have to add it!

 

Awesome car! I would not modify it either, hard to believe you found an Convertible IROC is such prestine shape

 

yeah i might keep it stock,but i was going to keep all the orignal parts either way,but it sounds like i will have to just let the car sit and drive it ever once a while when it really needs to be my daily driver. i am not going to rack up a ton of miles on it,but i do need a daily driver as a slowly fix my white one on the side. we will see things go, i havent even recieved the car yet it is still being shipped out. i already had sub frame connectors on the car too. thanks for all the replies! i really need to bring this car to a show to see if i could win trophies and prizes within the next month.

 

He did find a prestine Convert.. You can't go wrong buying one of those.. Overall it's his choice on where he wants to keep his investment of this fine vehicle.. Im sure he understands the tq of what a 383 can do in a convertible.. He seems to have a hand full of performance vehicles.. He keeps the orignal block together with all the tpi he is o.k.. If I had a Vert like that I do the same thing.. Build it the way I wanted..

 

I agree on leaving that one alone... If it had 109,000 miles on it, then it would be a different story...

Nice find!

 

Last I heard, Dyno Don has a nice 92 Rs v8 car available if you need something for a daily driver.

 

As I said, all thirdgen V8's came with A.I.R. from the factory, so someone who removed it and is claiming it as factory is a bunch of B.S.

 

All California equipped cars came with A.I.R. some Federal cars had it and others did not!

 

All Federal v8's would have had A.I..R. I think the v6's may not have needed it. It seems to me my 89 v6 didn't have A.I.R., but I may be mistaken.

 

your right the car still had the A.I.R. tube from the cat going into the engine compartment still connected. lookz like i will need to add my smog to the car.fun huh!

 

Well, look on the bright side, you wouldve had to add the smog stuff whether or not the car had the AIR tube

 

Beautiful car. Can you please tell us what you paid for it? I am in the market and would like to know what something in your cars shape would be selling for.

Thanks,
Hylton

 

I don't know what he paid, he may give you the amount in a p.m.
A convertible is more rare than a coupe or t-top car, so it will be quite a bit more expensive than the more common models. I have also noticed that super clean rust free older cars seem to be quite a bit more expensive in the "rust belt" than they are in the Southwest. You could probably find a clean, rust free car in the Southwest for less than he paid. If you are looking for a convertible, you need to search all over to find what you can. Good Luck.

 

Thanks Russ. Have you been watching the prices in SoCal? What are low mileage 'verts going for down there?

 

I haven't been watching prices. I've just occasionally noticed some prices for clean older used cars back East that were much higher than prices for similar models in the Southwest. I just ran an Auto Trader search for 87-92 Camaro's anywhere in the country. I didn't pay attention to Northeast cars, because rust damage is too easy to hide in photos. I found 16 IROC, Z28, or Rs with v8 for prices ranging from $13.9k to a low of $4k. Mileage ranged from 26k to 156k. The locations were Ca., Az., Tx., Al., Ga., N.C., Va., & Fla. Prices seemed more in line with mileage than location. All cars were described in excellent condition and there were no flaws aparant in the photos.

 

Unfortunately, these cars are some of the easiest for rolling back the mileage on the speedos.

 

You will probably need to subscribe to Carfax and submit vin numbers for any you are interested in. With california cars, I think carfax has access to smog test info, and since the mileage is recorded every time the car gets a smog check, and smog tests are every two years or when ever a car changes owners, a rolled back speedo would be easy to spot.

 

In California all you need is the License Plate No and you can find out the smog results and where the smog was done last. I found out that a car I had 30 years ago is now in Bakersfield.

 

Can you do that if you only have the vin number?

 

Yeah, Carfax just goes by vin #s to check a car's history.

 

i searched around for a while i think i did pretty well. i paid 12k!

 

ARRRRRRRR says the jealous pirate!

Nice car man..... nice!

 

Congratulations, that is a really nice car! Pretty much brand new! Question, can 383 equipped cars pass smog in CA if all the smog stuff is there, and the motor looks stock?

Are you getting a Wonder Bar and STB as well? That will really stiffen up the front. A nice black or chrome roll bar would look sharp as well, should you decide to dump in more power. I'm sure the car will be happy in Cali, just need to keep silicone on the weatherstripping, etc. as the dry heat can be hard on the rubber. Nice ride!

 

You did well. That is a very real price. I wish you would not mess with it though. Tell you what - let me find your something with 20k and just as nice and I'll throw in some coin for that car. I would put that car into hybernation for a decade or so (seriously)!

 

Yes, you just need to match everything, and then get a custom chip to manage it. Nobody can tell the engine size without a teardown, so if the equipment is there and the car passes the sniffer, you are good to go.

 

my zz 383 motor no it would not smog cause the cam and the cylinder heads. i would smog the car first before the motor goes in and most likely i will put the motor in even though most of u despise me of doing that, but i wont be selling orignal motor. it means alot me to do the sawp because my white camaro was only on the road 3 days with that motor. it still wont get driven much but i do intend to drive it. these cars most likely never be worth as much as the 69's and 70's. they have nice looks,but they are missing the muscle car part.

 

If done right, the 383 would pass regardless of the heads and cam.
There are several around that pass easily (very clean)