IROC Originality Question/Concerns
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IROC Originality Question/Concerns
Hey Guys, I am looong at a 1987 IROC and have some concerns about some minor issues being that it only has 33,100 miles on it.
He's asking top $ for the car so want to make sue its all original and i am waiting on the RPO codes.
It has a factory GM Alarm system and theres a key pad right below the centre vents.
He tells me the following:
1-Headliner is coming apart to the point that he has to "stuff' it back in place when the T-Bars are 0ut
2-Theres some Fish Eyes in the paint on the hood-Car was never painted it came from the factory like this- I know earlier 80s models Camaros had this issue but wasnt aware the IROCs did??
3-Transmission has a "clunk" when put into Drive but goes away once everything is warmed up?
4-Someone tried to jack up the car in the wrong spot and the fender is out by abouot 1/4"
5-Tires, calipers and exhaust have been changed out which I really dont have a problem with.
He's asking top $ for the car so want to make sue its all original and i am waiting on the RPO codes.
It has a factory GM Alarm system and theres a key pad right below the centre vents.
He tells me the following:
1-Headliner is coming apart to the point that he has to "stuff' it back in place when the T-Bars are 0ut
2-Theres some Fish Eyes in the paint on the hood-Car was never painted it came from the factory like this- I know earlier 80s models Camaros had this issue but wasnt aware the IROCs did??
3-Transmission has a "clunk" when put into Drive but goes away once everything is warmed up?
4-Someone tried to jack up the car in the wrong spot and the fender is out by abouot 1/4"
5-Tires, calipers and exhaust have been changed out which I really dont have a problem with.
Last edited by Out-Cast; 08-30-2017 at 09:40 AM.
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I don't think Irocs ever had a factory alarm, but....I've been wrong before. I think there were dealer installed alarms though.
...as for everything else, it sure doesn't sound like a "top dollar" car. I'd pass.
EDIT- A top dollar "original" car is top dollar because it DOES NOT have those issues. That's why it's top dollar. I suppose we could discuss price vs. issues, but.......man it just sounds like one to pass on.
...as for everything else, it sure doesn't sound like a "top dollar" car. I'd pass.
EDIT- A top dollar "original" car is top dollar because it DOES NOT have those issues. That's why it's top dollar. I suppose we could discuss price vs. issues, but.......man it just sounds like one to pass on.
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Have serious doubts about the "fish eyes" in the factory paint. I agree with Abubaca. It may a great car but it sure doesn't sound like what I would call "top dollar original"
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I know the Quality Control on these were ifffy at best. But I think that if a car rolled off the line and had fish eyes in the hood paint, I would have to think it would have been corrected before it left the factory.
Agree...Pass on this one.
Agree...Pass on this one.
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Sounds like a project car not a top dollar car to me
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It's very far from a project car. I have a video of the car and it looks brand new. The only thing I am worried about, and I contacted a local shop and for a full complete rebuild its $2600..Professional shop and great reputation.
This car was a GM Executives car, sold to another GM executive and then the current owner has had it for 7 years, put 800 miles on it.
I dont think it came off the Assembly line with the fish eyes in the hood. I was told it would ahve been from a cheical reaction. Maybe something spilt on it, or maybe the guy os pulling my leg and the hood was painted.
Can I run the VIN number anywheres to see the cars history? I would think he shouldn't hesitate to give it to me?
I appreciate the comments as this is why i posted here. Thanks!
This car was a GM Executives car, sold to another GM executive and then the current owner has had it for 7 years, put 800 miles on it.
I dont think it came off the Assembly line with the fish eyes in the hood. I was told it would ahve been from a cheical reaction. Maybe something spilt on it, or maybe the guy os pulling my leg and the hood was painted.
Can I run the VIN number anywheres to see the cars history? I would think he shouldn't hesitate to give it to me?
I appreciate the comments as this is why i posted here. Thanks!
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Goodwrench is GM aftermarket. Think one of the spare windows in my 'annex' has that same sticker. Don't remember the donor car having a keypad, but it did have a "STUD" vanity plate and Taz seat covers. LOL
Edit: Had to check my memory... Yup.
Edit: Had to check my memory... Yup.
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Theres an 80s era Corvette here in my hometown with that Goodwrench Security sticker on it
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Yep...dealer installed. My T/A have the decal and keypad. The module is removed and in a bag in storage (waiting for me to die so my children can throw it away). I have the remote and dealer brochure for mine too (brochure in bottom left corner of photo).
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Good to know.
I am going to try to sell my Car and pick this one up. As my Buddy said I am basically trying to pick apart the car and its just little things. The "fish Eyes" is just about 4-5 very small spots that looks like dust particles in the paint.
I have to think that wouldnt have happened with this Generation Camaro but cant say for sure.
I am going to try to sell my Car and pick this one up. As my Buddy said I am basically trying to pick apart the car and its just little things. The "fish Eyes" is just about 4-5 very small spots that looks like dust particles in the paint.
I have to think that wouldnt have happened with this Generation Camaro but cant say for sure.
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Dirt I could believe. Dirt happens. Fish eyes (small round craters in the paint, where moisture form the compressed air, or oil from the compressor or another contaminant), where the paint moved away from a foreign substance is far more rare in factory paint.
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Here's the spot on the hood he is talking about. And the pic of the front nose section, it looks to be a different color. I know on the older Camaro's the plastic caused fading of the paint.
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Looks more like rust bubbles under the paint to me from what I see there. Not sure because I'm not standing right over it looking either. Still, don't get me wrong it looks like a very nice car to me and theres nothing wrong in my book with painting and doing a lil work to one. My car has parts from probably half a dozen more cars on it.
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Looks more like rust bubbles under the paint to me from what I see there. Not sure because I'm not standing right over it looking either. Still, don't get me wrong it looks like a very nice car to me and theres nothing wrong in my book with painting and doing a lil work to one. My car has parts from probably half a dozen more cars on it.
Its a 33,000 mile car so thats pretty low.
My Car is pretty sharp as I have restored it, and has 90,000 miles on it, whcih still isnt a whole lot.
Just thinking if I buy a real low mileage car I want to to be mint.