91 Z28 350, C&C T-tops
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91 Z28 350, C&C T-tops
Whats up guys? I totaled my 91 RS back in October. I'm in the process of looking for another car. I found a local craigslist ad for a 91 Z28. The guy says that its a 350 car and was special ordered with the car corral t-tops and red leather. Does anyone know if this is possible? The tops are the ones that open like a sunroof. I have no knowledge of these type of tops. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I'll post some pics of my wreck. Also I'm looking for a 91-92. Thanks
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Yes I would prefer the hard top too, but its almost to good of a deal to pass up. Thanks for your help.
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I think they look sharp and I wouldn't mind having them as a set, it appears the tops are removable,are they? I don't think it lowers the value.
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Well I like them,beats taking the tops off and storing them in the bag.
Good Luck,I hope you get it for a good price.
Good Luck,I hope you get it for a good price.
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Yes, they are removable. Its basically a combination of a sunroof and T-tops.
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They should be glass.
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Here's some more pics of them.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...up-t-tops.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...up-t-tops.html
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Nice looking Z28 hope u take it home I always liked those wheels that are on it.
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I think right now they probably do not hurt the value a whole lot... However looking down the road 15-20 years they might... it is a hard call, no one can see the future, and T-tops with the 350 was NA on the Camaro from 1990-1992...
I have read where people actually like their C&C T-tops, and have good luck with them. I believe you can still get weatherstripping for them and everything, which would be a big factor... Of course if one breaks, you will spend time looking for another one would be the biggest down side right now.
I have read where people actually like their C&C T-tops, and have good luck with them. I believe you can still get weatherstripping for them and everything, which would be a big factor... Of course if one breaks, you will spend time looking for another one would be the biggest down side right now.
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I was at the junk yard and they had a set of the pop-up T-tops... I grabbed one and took it outside to try it on my Factory T-top car and it was a definate no way I would be able to get them to work... I could have picked them both up for $50... wish I would have grabbed them now... 10 year and hindsight go a long way.
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I said it on MIFB, and I'll say it again...great looking car...very cool tops. Congratulations!
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Ok, thanks JT! For future reference there is a place called the sunroof doctor that carries parts for them if anyone is searching. As far as I can tell they are the only place in the country that have parts
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Here's some more pics of them.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...up-t-tops.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...up-t-tops.html
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Thanks Dave! I'm finally learning a little more about it and researching parts. I cant wait to go out cruising!
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You won't be able to find any production numbers for C&C tops. They were installed by local dealers and shops. The shops were merely installing the kits without any central record keeping.
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AFAIK C&C is long gone
If you want to do a search, they were Cars & Concepts out of Michigan... Between Brighton & Novi MI. They were just off of I96 about 5 miles or so to the EAST of US23
C&C was no small company in the day, they actually made several concept cars like the Banshee concept (around 1988) and the dustbuster minivan concept. They also did things with Ford, IIRC they did the convertible conversions for them... But that is a bit more sketchy.
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If you want to do a search, they were Cars & Concepts out of Michigan... Between Brighton & Novi MI. They were just off of I96 about 5 miles or so to the EAST of US23
C&C was no small company in the day, they actually made several concept cars like the Banshee concept (around 1988) and the dustbuster minivan concept. They also did things with Ford, IIRC they did the convertible conversions for them... But that is a bit more sketchy.
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Did a little digging, found this:
http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...rsions-patents
Fine it points to a sister site for mustangs... BUT it gives some patents for C&C.
Also I found that that apparently according to that site, that C&C was bought by Masco industires http://masco.com/
http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthre...rsions-patents
Fine it points to a sister site for mustangs... BUT it gives some patents for C&C.
Also I found that that apparently according to that site, that C&C was bought by Masco industires http://masco.com/
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Didn't Pacific T-Top in Huntington Beach California do a bunch? I remember looking at a 88 GTA 5.7 with tops and the sticker they attached under the hatch said Pacific. IDK?
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Keep in mind that the C&C tops were done either at the dealer or an independent fab shop... So someone in Huntington Beach may have done some for multiple Dealers around the country before the dealer took delivery of car... kind of like some of the convertibles... Before the dealer even saw the car, it was converted then delivered.
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That dealer was just outside LA.
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Cool guys. Thanks for all of the info. I found out that by Dads neighbor used to work at Cars and Concepts. He said when he was there all of the stuff that he worked on was Ford stuff, fox body Mustangs. I remember seeing the building when I was a kid. I have family that lives near where the Brighton building was. The neighbor guy couldnt believe it when I showed him the C&C logo on the corner of my ttops. lol
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Cool guys. Thanks for all of the info. I found out that by Dads neighbor used to work at Cars and Concepts. He said when he was there all of the stuff that he worked on was Ford stuff, fox body Mustangs. I remember seeing the building when I was a kid. I have family that lives near where the Brighton building was. The neighbor guy couldnt believe it when I showed him the C&C logo on the corner of my ttops. lol
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To all of you guys that were so helpful with my questions about the car I figured that I would post an update on the car. It cleaned up really well. I had the front clip shot. The interior and t top seals are next.
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Is it Smoke or steam? It appears to be white, which would tend to make me believe it is Steam. Smoke, usually caused by oil, is typically Blueish.
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Sounds like steam esssscaping
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I was just bustin' his ***** a bit.
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Hey man, Can you change the title of the thread to Cars and Concepts t-tops instead of car corral t tops? So I dont look like an *** for not knowing what they were called. lol
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