you know they use to be, just like the price of 20's which were outrageous. two years ago when i bought my 18's the tires were more then i'll pay if i bought 20's. things have changed, there are more options, better options, etc.

a z rated 295/25/20 in the most expensive make and brand will run you no more then $300 a piece which isn't bad at all.

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I agree and disagree!

Some 20's do look goofy as do some 15,s ,18,s and 17s!!!!


Its all about the wheel design and tire package!!!

The bright red Camaro and the burgandy one above including those 4th gens look sick!

I do agree with you however I have seen some big wheels that look getto, pimpin mobiles...

20's and 19's are amazing if done RIGHT! Most of the concept cars in the magazines the new GTO and so on have huge 19 20 inch wheels.

Oh and how did I miss this sick TA with 19's???????

This car is amazing!!!!!!!!!

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/att...postid=2045104

I recall that that car has 20's on it here:

1986

Original black paint

Tires: Front 245/40/20 Michelin Pilot Sport, rear 285/35/20 Pirelli Pzero. M/T ET Street 820/11,5/15 for drag.

Rims: BBS RC 9x20” og 10x20”.

ALL details are in the thread I posted above....

yes that car has 20's and just because 20's or 16's aren't your thing is no reason to push it down anyones throat. please keep the topic relative. if you don't like 20's and have to put your .02 in then please at least explain why in a logistic way. most people that want larger wheels either want to fit in with the new thing or have a different element behind it. otherwise all our cars would have came with 15's rather then the 16" upgrade.

either way it's all preference vs. opinion. just keep it clean. anyone have any other pictures of a dished thirdgen with 19 or 20" rims?

:)

I like the picture with the 19's fits perfect

this is the pic i was thinking of, but then i found the thread and they're actually 22's so i guess 20's wouldn't be quite as bad as i was thinking, but still a little too big in my opinion.

Hows about 27's! :doh: :doh:

So tell em to make you a couple 20"x8" rims :D

The photoshop of the 19's looks good... but the 20's looks RIGHT for the type of project your talking about doing.

i wish it were that easy to make it work with a 8" hoop.

:D

I thought you sold the car?

Is Boze offering to sponsor twenties, or do you still have to buy them?

I like 18's personally, but the 19's look good too. I've seen a few thirdgens on 20's and they look stupid. You have it exactly correct about the ride height. They end up looking lifted. Even with no fender gap, there is 8" under the car. It doesn't look right. There is no way to get your car low enough to make 20's look right. You don't have enough room in the rear fender wells and you have to be able to to turn.

yes i sold the car, i agree on the 20's which is the biggest question. you can do it however to keep tire size relative you'd have to run a 30 series up front and a 25 series in the rear. for a trailer queen this would be fine but i'd like to drive the car some. that and their 20's can only be hooped in a 8.5 not an 8. i need an 8" because of the front airstruts.

So you got another one and bagged it as well? I have not been on this forum in a while, so I don't know the story.

19x9 up front 2" lip 20x10 at least out back with the 4" lip...pull it off

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that would be to wide with air ride..he probably couldnt tuck that...plus he said only 8' wide up front do to the strut bag

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and no off-sizing... it's a thirdgen, not a c5/c6.

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true, i forgot about the bags. but i still think the offsizing would look alright due to the differences in the lips. but if it, in fact, doesnt look right then my suggestions is 19's.

To me when he had 18's it looked like the rear rim was smaller i actually think unless u make the front and rear the same height the back would look better with a 1 up.car. Heres the 19" pic looks like it could use 20's in the back

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/att...postid=2275991

of course it does... that's why i don't like looking at pictures. the car had it lifted in the rear because of the air ride... when all things are considered the car should be level. if i were to have my suspension set up like that then it would be a different ball game and i'd agree.

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didnt flynlow92 have 19's from intro? Not sure on the lip size but he seemed to have them fit well

no they weren't billet, they were a cast 19" wheel. they were millie miglia 5 somethings..

Perhaps I'm just missing the point, but if you are shopping 20s and comparing lips, widths, design and everything else, but attempting to have the illusion of the 20s looking like 19s....why not just go with 19s? No illusion necessary, quite a few more designs and widths to play with, and less fitment headaches. Is it just to be able to say there are 20s on the car?

It just appears to be lots of headaches for little payoff. But you and I want different things from our thirdgens, so what do I know?:)

this isn't about my car... it is a discussion on what wheel fits the design of the body best which can change by offset and wheel design. there is no true right or wrong answer.

in life there are many headaches... the difficulty of the decision and the angle at which the problem is dealt with is what keeps things interesting, often always paying off. it's the simple answers that often reward nothing.

woah :eek: deep!



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Haha fair enough.

I think it was the whole idea of having 20s look like 19s that threw me off....I just kept thinking, "Why wouldn't you just....get 19s?";)

There are some very sharp looking cars posted in this thread which tie 19 and 20 inch wheels in very well with the overall look of the car.

the only problem i find with the staggered sizing is that they tend to look better on an angle. the side shots often don't look as good.

i agree for myself i think 19's are as large as i'd go. mainly because of tire choice "driveability". either way it's all opinions..

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actually i belive they were zenetti five's. if i do remember right and my bosses son just got them put on his new stang.

but on to the subject i think 19's look the best. i know that is what i am going to get next

actually i think you may be right, both very similar styles.

either way they aren't billet, they are cast.

:)

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ghlight=wheels

Very true they are cast and not billet

either of these arent too bad from intro....can get a 19x8/10 combo, and only 20x8.5/10 for 20s, so you're stuck again with that dilema

http://www.truckshop.com/files/pics/pics/Pentia5.jpg
http://www.truckshop.com/files/pics/pics/VRod.jpg

i want those 2nd ones soo bad. those would be the ones i plan on getting in 19x8 and 19x10 in the near future

they look much better in pictures then on a car and you have to have at least an 18" with eithe of them to look right. they are nice wheels but personally they have much better designs. they are also the makers of I-forged which is a much better line i feel. you can get the 3 piece i-forged wheels in a 2 piece and they are labeled intro instead.

same as boze forged which is two piece, pay a little more and get them in a 3 piece ze forged (same company)

intro also use to be known as heavy d's... they still make some wheels under their line. similar to hre's standard 5 spoke they make an aero. usually any billet company can make something similar to what you want, the wheels are not all listed on their site. just need to talk to them and let them know exactly what you want. pictures or drawings help obiviously.

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I think the 19s and 20s look better on the Camaros since their gfx dip lower than most of the birds.

IMO anything larger than 17" wheels do not fit the proportions of a thirdgen. As the wheel get larger than 17" the car begins to look cartoonish, which I guess some people are actually going for, like a Big Daddy Roth caricature of a car or something. The picture of the car in this thread with 22" wheels has to be considered ridiculous by anyone with a pulse. Besides, the tire choices dwindle to very few even above 16". I have 15" on my car, but Im going for a different look/function as a street/strip drag racer. The choice of tires quadrupled just goin form 16" to 15". I just bought my son a beautiful 1990 firebird 6 cylinder with 38,000 original miles. We are considering 17" rims and some Toyo tires which would look nice and still be funtional for a cruiser type car like his.

anyway, thats my 2 cents, and an attempt to logically justify it

What size rims and tires are these?

and that's certainly one way to look at it. i remember when i was younger just out of highschool when 16" wheels were the upgraded size for performance. then it was 17" with the f-body and lt1 vettes. after that the c5 picked up on it with the style lines and the tire companies came along to answer with drag radials for those who wanted to race. now 19's are a factory norm from the c6 to the ferrari and lamborghini counterparts with jaguar's running on 20 and sometimes 21".

personally there is a very heavy trade off the larger you go. 18" and above tires are all pretty relative and the choices are very good from what they were a few years ago but you loose some performance from the rotating mass unlike a typical 16 or even 15" setup. i myself for a younger person would say 17's are the max as you get a great style and power weight ratio without the need to be extremely careful with the rims and where you are driving.

for myself though building a show car or something i like to drive on the street every once in awhile something like 18"+ is well worth the rewards. it's all personal opinion, i like to see new things and while i have vehicles with 22's they belong on them, a thirdgen just isn't one of them.

Anyone?

i belive that that ios 19x8 in the front and 20/9 or 10 in the back or maybe 19x8 all around?

19x8 with 4.75"
20x8.5 with 5"

Thanks Kandied.

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I agree, but the guy with the 19/20 combo drove the car on the whole power tour and there are a number of production cars with 19's or 20's on them.

doesn't mean it looks right or bad.... it's all personal preference and the power tour is also setup to travel on very nice roads, for that reason alone so it doesn't mean much as far as wheel and tire combinations are concerned. the long haul proves that a cars motor/drivetrain can handle the drive more then anything.

The traveled up I-55, that is far from a nice road.

the last 2 i went on were pretty much perfect. i suppose it depends on where you live but here in michigan 1 out of 10 roads are nice. the power tour will not come through michigan for that very reason.

I know that vehicle weight, wheel material, lip, tire sidewall, etc effects it but can you say approx. how much sidewall would be enough...on a thirdgen?

on what a 20" rim? well to keep a stock dia. you would need either a 25 or 30 series which is thinner then both of what is being ran on the vehicles above with 20's.

i bent two hoops with a 3.9" sidewall on very small holes however it was on a 4 1/4" reverse mount lip. the stock tire size sidewall is roughly 1" more then that. you could adjust for this problem by running a taller tire obviously but anything above a 26" overall height tire will literally raise the vehicle and give the car that funny stance. you have to look at the problem and realize what's more important which is why in this theory alone the 19" is as tall as you could get and be ok, 20's can be made to work.