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Old 01-20-2002, 07:34 PM
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Pictures you've been waiting on. Bolted on the turbo today for the 1st time.


Its not totally complete but it was close enough for me to bolt on the turbo and see how it fits.






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you are my hero, she's going to HAUL!

I think someone should persuade you into putting another Txx on there
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Very nice Curt!! Looking good.
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Looking good Guido, How long ya thinking before your on the road? It doesn't seem like it took you too long to get the headers done. Good Job.
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Still going to be a while till Im on the road.
My short block hasn't even started at the speed shop. I have to pay for that.

After Im done with these headers, Im taking the interior apart to finish the roll cage.

I still have to buy an intercooler, new ful pump, injectors, new rims, vacuum pump, 3 bar MPA and a couple other small things.

And Im back in school 4 nights a week so its going to slow way down now.
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Well, stay strong and focus. I've been building mine now for 4 years. I can't tell you how many times I've thought about just selling all my twin turbo stuff. Lately this site has been the only thing keeping me excited about my car. Is yours a street/strip car or are you planning on just track time.
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Originally posted by vortech305
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Problem?

LIL QUIK,
Its mostly race but it can be driven on the street. Has a TH400 with 5000rpm 8" stall. I *hope* to be able to drive it on the street. Converter builder told me no cross country trips but a good cooler and I should be okay.
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That's a hella stall. Just out of curiosity, what are you planning on as far as max rpm's.
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6500-7000. Its still a hydraulic cam so thats about the limits of the valvetrain.
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Have you thought about a solid roller setup and going 8500 rpm's. The only reason I'm asking is the 7000 limit doesn't seem like it would give you very much pull time from 5000. Just asking. Keep in mind I've never had a car that left at 5000. Thats got to be a wild ride.....especially after turbo's.
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correct me if im wrong but "gweed"
Is only running one turbo
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Sorry, I'm just used to saying turbo's because I've got the twins.
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Lil quik tell me what kind of setup you're running who did your piping.. What car ... yr
all of the fun stuff
et's aswell
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Here's the info from another thread.

"Actually the motor and turbos are finished. Right now I'm making arrangements for a local shop to help me build the intercooler and run all the plumbing for me since I can't weld aluminum nor have a tubing bender. Here's the specs if your interested and will shoot some pics to you if you like.

High nickel block SB to 383
All forged internals
Banks Twin Turbo Manifolds
T04B Turbos w/ .68 a/r, P-trim wheel, H exh. housing (by memory)
Accel Super Ram Manifold
1000 cfm Throttle Body
55# (prob. going to 83 shortly) Accel injectors
Solid Roller Cam 236/244 dur. @.050 .590/.590 lift 112 ls.
P&P Brodix Track 1 heads

Using a TKO transmission w/ Lakewood bell housing
Currently on a built 10 bolt w/ Auburn Pro Series and 3.73 gears
Billet Sabers 17x9/17x11--275/40,315/35

Just need the intercooler and plumbing, a good 9", and a dual disk cluth and I should be ready to have some fun. And ofcourse let the local magician work his magic with my DFI. Like I said if you like I'll shoot some pics of the set up and the car if you like."

I'm not finished yet so I dont have any times. I want 9.50's on my drag radials. There are a couple of guys in the area doing it but they don't have the power that I'm planning on. I'm sure it will take me a while to learn and drive the car. It's a 1991 Z-28. Look for a post in about 3 hours and I'll give ya'll the pics and all the info on my baby. Sorry the post is so long.
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Damn, i'm excited.. What about those pictures ?
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Hey vortec, you'll have to excuse me for being new but what the hell does the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz suppose to mean.
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I'll have pics for you in about 3 hours. I left them in my computer at the house this morning. I'll get them during lunch and start a new thread for those interested.
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ZZZZ...cartoons...sleeping......he is not excited about it for some reason
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lol, nah im just bored out of my mind
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Go to a honda board then and annoy them.

We arent interested in your opinion.
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lol, nah im just bored out of my mind
this is the same asswipe who gets all freaking giddy over a 305tpi in his car

you should be bowing in guido's presence and giving him free hose jobs in the hopes that he'll give you a few pointers on how not to be such a moronic ********, with absolutely no clue of what's going on under the hood of anything.

ps.NOS is a name brand, it's nitrous oxide you freaking retard. Nice post on NE3G.
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You know what, who cares what he thinks about his 3-5 and who cares what he thinks about anything else. No need for flaming....
Gweed it would be a shame to Close the post your pix are still here :\
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Originally posted by TheWraith


this is the same asswipe who gets all freaking giddy over a 305tpi in his car

you should be bowing in guido's presence and giving him free hose jobs in the hopes that he'll give you a few pointers on how not to be such a moronic ********, with absolutely no clue of what's going on under the hood of anything.

ps.NOS is a name brand, it's nitrous oxide you freaking retard. Nice post on NE3G.
Who ****ted on ur cornflakes? And whats with the bowing down, what cause hes got a blower and has a bigger displacement than i do? But see im not gonna get as upset as u, They do say Tension is a sign of sexual fustration and the tension that ur giving means well ur not getting laid. My little zzzzzz were meant as a joke and if ur dumb too realize that and get all defensive then u obviously have issues. BTW id fix that getting laid part not too good. . Even thought guido dosent give a damn nice job on the motor

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Originally posted by vortech305


Who ****ted on ur cornflakes? And whats with the bowing down, what cause hes got a blower and has a bigger displacement than i do? But see im not gonna get as upset as u, They do say Tension is a sign of sexual fustration and the tension that ur giving means well ur not getting laid. My little zzzzzz were meant as a joke and if ur dumb too realize that and get all defensive then u obviously have issues. BTW id fix that getting laid part not too good. . Even thought guido dosent give a damn nice job on the motor
I believe Wraith jumped on you because your "zzzzzzzz" is typically considered to be a rude comment. If it was a joke you should have followed it with "j/k" which means just kidding. By not doing this your intentions are not really clear, and you deserve what you got for it. Also your comments quoted here are no better than his.
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Who ****ted on ur cornflakes? And whats with the bowing down, what cause hes got a blower and has a bigger displacement than i do? But see im not gonna get as upset as u, They do say Tension is a sign of sexual fustration and the tension that ur giving means well ur not getting laid. My little zzzzzz were meant as a joke and if ur dumb too realize that and get all defensive then u obviously have issues. BTW id fix that getting laid part not too good. . Even thought guido dosent give a damn nice job on the motor
the problem with you is that no one knows you, no one has met you in real life, and you expect us to interpret that as a joke? You come off like a total *******. Besides, thirdgen.org is tech only, in case you didn't catch the obvious.

no more.....this is guido's post. Nice setup btw guido
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Why must you all be so predictable? I wish i were a moderator
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well if u say my zZzZzzZzZzZz was in any way rude i apologize to guido and guido alone
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Who ****ted on ur cornflakes? And whats with the bowing down, what cause hes got a blower and has a bigger displacement than i do?
the really cool thing in his engine isn't a blower, its a turbo, can you say turbo? t-u-r-b-o, very good
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Superchargers AND turbos are oftenly reffered to as "blowers"
Thanks
stop the flaming
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Looks very good Guido ....makes me think twice about My D1 sc project

Just curious what are your plans/routing for air intake ? ......any type of cowl set up or are you going to pick up underneath the car or something?
looks like it might be kinda tricky plumbing for intercooler

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Just out of curiousity, will a motor plate such as your guido cut down on the effectiveness of you fan(s)?
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Sheesh,what the hell went on up there?

Guido,now your getting to the hard part,making all those pipes converge into one place!!!
Looks good, I cant wait to hear that big monster shearing some air at 7000!
Cobrakiller,i'm not sure what you mean about the fans,but they dont blow on the motor to cool it,they move air through the rad to cool it. The motor plates have no bearing on the cooling systems effectiveness,but they hold that f-in killer smallblock in there nice,dont they!
Later,John.
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Hell yeah its tricky John.

Here is my first attempt tonight. Im not very pleased with it. Gotta go back and fix it up some...



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Originally posted by D144John
Cobrakiller,i'm not sure what you mean about the fans,but they dont blow on the motor to cool it,they move air through the rad to cool it. The motor plates have no bearing on the cooling systems effectiveness,but they hold that f-in killer smallblock in there nice,dont they!
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Oh yeah, I had my head up my *** when i thought of that brilliant idea. thanks for the input
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That's gonna be nuts when you get it done. This is fun watching your progress. Gives us little guys some inspiration.
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Gweed, forgive me if you've siad it in the past or if i just dont know, but what sort of intake is that >? how much does it flow and why did you choose it over the miniram. Due to the fuel rails?
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Uh oh, I think I found out where all of the SERIOUS third gen guys hang out at....

CRAZY pics, Curt! Is the exhaust going to have a decent amount of clearance exiting the car?
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Looks really cool!

One thing, the output side on the turbo seems a little close to the wheelwell.. Can't you rotate the turbo so the pipe sticks to the other side?

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I still have to rotate the compressor and the bearing sections but its good for fittment at this point.
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What kind of electric water pump is that? A CSI???

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Lil Qwik how much more restrictive are those manifolds over a header style that guido is working on. Also, anyone know what kind of intake Guido is going to be running.. It isnt the miniram he used to have is it? That's something different
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Guido's headers are going to flow alot better than my maniflods will. The main thing I was concerned with was rather or not I could hit 1000+ Hp with the manifolds. After a couple of shops assured me that I could then I went ahead and purchased them. Especially since I'm only looking for 800-1000 HP and custom headers were going to run me quite a bit more money. Guido might be looking more more HP than me and I believe he has better resources to build his own headers. As far as his intake, I can't quite remember.
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How big are yours? Mine are HUGE!


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Coincidentally, the ports are the exact same size as the exhaust ports on my Track 1's. But because they are a log style, there's no way in hell they'll flow as much as Guido's
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Yeah, that's true.. I may one day try to build my own headers too. Problem is.. where to leave the wastegate

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I kinda like the way Guido did his, more or less out of the way.......I think the only advantage that I might have over Guido's setup is that I might be able to spool up faster. But I don't think he's too concerned with that being that I think he's mainly a track car as opposed to me being a street car. I actually like the placement of your wastegates better FAQman.
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LiL I know nothing about exhaust gasses so bear with me when i ask the following. Is there the possibility that your Manifold will be too small and restrictive? In my simple mind it works like this.. Four tubes going into one. The manifold doesnt look much bigger if any than a single tube on my headers at home. Will there not be too much turbulence also created by the fact that the gasses are not lead away from the "port" (???) Instead they're channeled along hitting one then another and another untill it hits the final one. It seems to me that the exhaust port closest to the end of the manifold will be releasing the most ehxaust gas as it is not competing with three other ports like the one at the other end is.
I'm not going to bring it up because some folks will get mad but will this create too much backpressure (for those that subscribe to the belief of backpressure).

Thankyou for your time


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