anesthes

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I have a quadrajet on my stingray and It's like, wow, this thing starts quickly, has great throttle response, etc. haha

-- Joe

Orr89RocZ

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Just go ebl lol

anesthes

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Nah, that would be like running a race blind with your feet tied together.

I like my MS, and I like my Quadrajets. Different applications for different vehicles.

-- Joe

Orr89RocZ

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Lol they have too many problems. My buddy still fighting issues with his ms. Oem electronics is tried and true

anesthes

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Most of the problems are poor assemblies. Not everyone is an electronics wizard and shouldn't attempt assembling one.

I've never had a problem with mine - it's a surface mount unit built my the manufacturer. Not a through hole high school project.

There is probably a thousand times the number of MS units in operation than EBL.

But beyond that, certain features are a must for me. I'm not going backwards.

-- Joe

Street Lethal

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If Dave's car still maintains the factory TPI harness (correct if I am wrong Dave, as I remember your car coming with a carburetor but was originally Tuned Port Injection), if he didn't butcher it, then I would say go EBL Flash for sure. Megasquirt has a lot of users out there, but only a handful on this website that were successful with it. I think the ratio of EBL users here is much higher in comparison. Lot of ways to go though, I mean there are even classic FAST systems out there for extremely cheap that work hand in hand with the GM distributor. To be honest, at the rate he is going, he should just go blow-thru carb and call it a day, this way he can at least enjoy whatever is left of the season...

anesthes

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Absolutely, but let's be fair - the majority of our members also have problems installing headers, setting timing, "passing smog", etc. We don't exactly have the same membership that we used to. Heck, even some of our moderators have not logged in in months (or years).

I've recommend EBL to a number of people over the years because I know even if they had an IQ under 60, RBob would work with them and get them up and running.

-- Joe

project89

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i dont have a stock harness on my car , when i got the car somone took bolt cutters and cut the harness in half by the heater box when they did the carb swap , i put the tpi back on it but went right to ms

the ms isnt a bad system , i bought a used unit that wasnt assembled properly , when i tried to fix it i missed a few things myself and thats were my issues came from

i was just going to buy a new diyautotune assembled unit , but if im going to spend 4-500 bucks i may as well justs pend a lilmore and try one of the other systems i havent tried before

heres a picture from the other day so u guys know im not slacking

Street Lethal

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jimw67

Geesh, you know how to get the MS going, but you're considering a change before you even get the motor broke in? No one can say you aren't scared to tackle something new.

Grab an assembled MS and get it running.! I want to see what this thing will do.

Good luck and KEEP IT GOING

project89

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parts ordered for my ms , also placed my order with summit for some long wheel studs and open ended lugnuts , 6 qts of comp cams breaking oil and a bunch of other misc parts


anyone know were to buy the coil cord for a transbrake button , summit sells it but only with abutton attached to it and the cheapest is like 50$'s , hell i already have a button , i just need the wire

project89

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summit just delivered my arp rear wheel studs , comp cams breakin oil , and some other misc parts i needed to put the engine back int he car , now i just need the new mosfets for my megasquirt to arrive so i can repair the injector drivers

project89

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my new turbo is here lol



lol i think id need 7 more of those

any ways i got the oil leak fixed motor back in , im just waiting on diyautotune to ship out my replacement parts for my ecm , and then i can finally get some vids of this thing up and running

project89

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uncalled for and reported , like i said before u dont like the thread dont click on it

mw66nova

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when is it going to the track?

project89

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god i hate to even say it since the last planned outing was halted due to my ecm issue sometimes i think this car is cursed lol

my next planned outing is nov 14th i have my fingers crossed we will make it i have other projects im working on along with the car so my time is split up between then


the good news is there is racing here year round except for the month of december so if i dont make the next one the next race would be in january

that being said i am focusing most of my time on the car right now , and as it sits im just waiting on replacement injector drivers for my ecm from diyautotune which shipped out today with 2 day delivery , other then that i need to yank the rear apart and install my longer arp wheel studs and then shes ready to go

project89

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buttoning up the electrical and fuel system tonight, ecm parts are sitting in my po box to late to pick them up tonight , so ill grab them in the morning and get my ecm fixed .

only hurdle left to get over is a trailer to tow the car to the track with , was going to use a friends but they are going racing too , that leaves the 5th wheel flatbed farm trailer but i dont think i can get my car on that trailer unless u build like 10ft long ramps

Orr89RocZ

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Worry about tune and finding/fixing any remaining bugs first. Always seems to be something hanging around on a new setup

project89

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yeah fixing some odds and ends today , picked up some gates radiator hose exspensive stuff at 22$ a foot to replace the stock hoses i cut up to make connectors for the steel rad hoses , need to mount the wideband gauge and a few misc items in the car , and finally tonght im going to solder in the new injector drivers in the ecm. so glad this will finally be done so i can get started on my turbo bike/motard conversion on my xr250r

if anyone wants to follow along on that here it is

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...-dirtbike.html

Street Lethal

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Slacker!!!!!!!!

Get those Muppets, I mean MOSFETS taken care of lol....

project89

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its ready to go cant fire it till the lines for the trans cooler get here , tommorow or friday will be the day

Street Lethal

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Damn bro I've been gone for awhile, was hoping to see you lay the smack down on someone before I got back. Glad to hear that I'll be around just in time for the first official startup...

project89

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well wont be the first startup but close enough , if all goes well this weekend were off to the track next weekend

anesthes

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Did you use braided for the trans cooler?

-- Joe

project89

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pushloc, im tierd of cutting myself up or stabbing myself with stainless braided lines when making them

anesthes

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haha.. Electric tape. I can do braided hose ends in my sleep

-- Joe

Street Lethal

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.. first official startup on this forum with that setup.

Did you get any closer?

project89

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let ya know in a few hours heading over shortly to tidy up a few things int he wiring and then fire the engine

project89

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video uploading

this new motor and turbo setup sounds good

project89

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more vids later just home to eat and go back to working on it

Street Lethal

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About damn time bro, now I can start updating my build...

I have a nice wrapped Iroc steering wheel, was saving it...

project89

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thanks i have another video of the same start except from the outside of the car uploading now

not sure what im going to do witht he steering wheel right now its got a grant with a hub on it now i may just buy another grant wheel

project89

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ZZ3Astro

Damn she sounds mean!!

project89

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thanks ,its just a stock bottom end with some junk heads

plan is to hit the track next weekend, ive got the rear end torn apart atm but that wont take long to put back together , and ive got to finish the wiring/guages inside the car

DIGGLER

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sounds nasty, but will it idle like that? seems like its crazy rich or something?

mw66nova

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i agree, it doesn't sound clean right now. popping through the pipes like that.

Orr89RocZ

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First cold start its likely not perfect lol my car sounds like *** til it warms up

project89

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its not to rich on cold start , actually not as bad as the actual first start that i did were it just smoked black , but hard to tell as i had the ideband out of it till all the oil and grease had burnt out of all the new tubing

i think the echo in the shop makes it sound a lil worse then it really is as well
cam is installed +4 so its going to be a lil rougher then normal as well

Street Lethal

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Yeah it's rich, but shouldn't surprise you Dave. Did you tune it, or just running a base code? No O2 correction in Open Loop, open downpipe right where the camera is filming, and an enclosed garage. That's going to effect the sound. It's sounds very crisp to me though, but I can see how it would be mistaken for running rough. How much vacuum are you pulling in idle?

project89

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old tune from the same motor with twins/different cam , but now that my ecm can prperly control my injectors ive got a bunch to do again to make it right , ill get it closer this week when i get the rear end together and can roll the car out the shop door m so i dont have to run it inside

dont know how much vacum none of the gauges inside the car are plumbed yet , and i wasnt paying attention to tuner studio as i wanted to make sure we had no leaks or obvious problems at first, i did find a small fual leak that i need to take care of at one of the fittings

and yes front exit downpipes FTW

Street Lethal

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Not sure I would have done that, but we'll see what happens...

project89

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4,500 converter in it so need the top end more then the bottom,i can always bring it back to stright up and can compare it later

Street Lethal

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Retarding the cam enhances low end, not top end. Thought you retarded it, just realized you advanced...

project89

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u know what ur right im confusing myself , cam was ground with +4 and i installed it -4

for some reason i was thinking the opposite ground with -4 installed at +4

my timming set offered 0-2-4-6* retard and 0-2-4* advance

Street Lethal

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Where does everything else stand? Your still going for that homemade Dana?

project89

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i really just want to do the 8.8 , buddy wants me to do the dana to keep the ford parts out of the car , and he donated me the housing to do the dana

right now im just giving the stocker a once over since the pinion seal was leaking

but more then likley i will start on the dana 60 after my bike project

Orr89RocZ

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No retarding delays intake closing event which moves power up. Advancing brings power down.

project89

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yeah this is why most cams are ground with +4 built into the grind

its one of those very easy things to confuse when thinking about cam advance and retard

Street Lethal

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Was a typo, quoted him saying he installed it +4, but wrote retarding w/advancing effects.

This is why I didn't agree with it. I advanced my cam to take advantage of the Tuned Port Injection intake, smaller valves, lower stall, and lower RPM ability. I needed to enhance my torque curve. You are running a big turbo, better flowing heads, better flowing intake, and much higher stall, which would negatively impact your setup if you advanced the cam. Just set it straight up for the time being...