34blazer

finally out of training thats lasted a year and im on a favorable schedule.

along with Mark im in the market for a turbo. ive been looking at the fleabay gt35 special(lol). found mostly T3's with larger comp wheels like this one....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PORTED-SHROU...sories&vxp=mtr

was looking for T4 frames but they have the small 57mm wheel. i like the 62mm wheel, seems perfect for my little 3.4. anybody have good links?

project89

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its about time :P

engine mods?
stock heads cam = hybrid 50mm
stockheads / 252 or better cam = 50/57mm
ported heads/ 260+ cam = 57 to 67mm

depending on the turbo hotside will also dictate turbo sizing


for most built v6's a turbo on the 60-61mm range is plenty
cx racing offers the gt3582 with a t4 ptrim wheel in either .68 or an .84 housing if u really want the t4 turbine go with the .68


as fasteddi is doing the 57mm t3 hybrid turbo coupled with the t67 compressor will make one very killer turbo for a worked over v6

project89

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its not 67mm its 66 mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GODSPEED-GSP...1ee534&vxp=mtr
that compressor put on the hotside of the 57mm hybrid will make a killer turbo and is what fasteddi is going with i belive

Z28ricer

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For goodness sakes, why buy something for $300-400 thats going to break, if not right out of the box, shortly after, instead of spending $800 on something that will last forever ?

34blazer

yeah dude i been busy for the last year lol. i get 3 day weekends so ill have way more time than before.

the engine:

ARI 3.4
hyper pistons, rings were loosened up for boost, top ring is plasma-moly
arp hardware for the bottom end
heads are ported, gasket matched, bowls blended, valve guides slimmed down, still have the vane but much smaller
k-motion valve springs, iirc K-700's
crane chromoly retainers and locks, viton seals
trick flow 6.250" chromoly pushrods
crane solid cam, howards solid lifters
the cam is a 290/300 adv duration 493/512 lift(1.6 rockers) on a 112 LSA
42# injectors/walbro 255
also have a bbk rrfpr on the rail
going to use the 2.8/3.1 intake for now. on a budget lol


im liking that turbo you posted lol

34blazer

id love to buy the better part. problem is, budget. i dont care if it breaks, engine blows, etc. the engine and car have been sitting for the last 6 years, id rather break it than have it sit collecting dust. i want this piece on the road within the next year, tops.

Z28ricer

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But seriously, if $400 is going to break the bank, you probably shouldnt be doing this...

34blazer

LOL, its not. trust me

Z28ricer

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So then why fool with something that has a likely chance of just breaking for no apparent reason other than it was cheap poorly copied junk in the first place ?

Six_Shooter

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Why keep harping on him about his choice of product to put on his vehicle? Especially in the light that MANY people use these same turbochargers with great reliability and success.

project89

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that cam is going to want a serious top end turbo

the turbo i posted is not a good choice by itself the hotside has a .48 housing, though realistically in the picture it apears to be a .63
but the turbine wheel itself is tiny and a mismatch


for fasteddi he already has the 57mm unit with the much better hotside so if he gets that turbo and swaps the coldside onto his 57mm unit it makes a very kickass turbo


the way they offer that turbo (66mm) its aimed more at the 4cyl ppl to get that massive compressor spinning with not much lag

for an out of the box turbo for u i recomend the 57mm unit or the gt3583
the gt3582 would be my first choice


if u can pick up a t3 50 trim out of the junkyard with a 5 bolt turbine and a .63 or 8x housing for cheap i would get that then buy the 66 and swap the wheels

other then that buy the gt3582

project89

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actually i take that back knowing the actualy size of the v band flange i was able to calculate the actual size of the turbine wheel from the picture, and it apears its the same size as the 57mm turbos turbine so if it is infact a .48 housing u could swap on the .63 from any standard t3


edit never mine its the smaller stage 1 t3 turbine wheel its about 3mm smaller on the inducer and 2.5mm smalle ron the exducer then a standard stage 3 wheel but it uses a standard shaft size so the compressor can be swaped onto any t3 turbo

u could try it as is though im not sure if it would choke flow on the top end, its slightly smaller then what the rest of use run and i have no problems going to 8,000 rpms with the very slightly larger turbine wheel

34blazer

i do have a factory T3 off my hot-air buick. cartridge is in good shape too. .63 housing, not sure of the turbine size tho. id have to ask some buick guys.....
Rob? lol

project89

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go to the turboforums and tell that to the guys running ebay turbos that run 8's and 9's the same thing, these turbos have been proven to be reliable

34blazer

i do not need to explain anything to you. offer up something useful or be gone

project89

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i belive the hotair turbo has the smaller turbine i used to have a hotair turbo.
i know my old ebay turbo we could swap the housings on and off from the intercooled gn turbos since they had the same size turbine. but i couldnt swap the turbine housing off the hotair turbo cause it had a smaler wheel


take the ex housing off and measure the turbine wheel im pretty damn sure its the same size as the turbine wheel on the 66mm turbo, if it is then u already have a nice .63 housing to use and i know u can buy .8x housings for the those turbos , i believe they came on the 301 carbed turbo setups and they are always for sale on ebay

project89

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this is my old hotair turbo , does urs look like this ?



well except for the modified turbine housing anyway i drilled the internal wastegate hole then taped it to npt thread and screwed in a plug them machined it flat.
i also machined the turbine inlet so it was flat for easy of making a flange for it to bolt to. mine had the .82 housing on the turbine, i ended up building a diy turbine engine out of it

34blazer

well i just looked at it with the housing on, the exducer is roughly 2 1/16th" i can take off the housing tomorrow, but i dont have and verniers. just a tape measure.

34blazer

no thats the carby draw thru, i have the one from the 84-85's


just took a couple of pics here ya go

project89

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pics arent showing

34blazer

uploader sux, trying to attach directly to page lol

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3&l=535eb33f71

project89

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that housing should swap right onto that 66mm its hard to tell though as im comming up with a 2 inch exducer on the 66mm turbo.

only way to know for sure is going to be to try

34blazer

id hate to drop any ching without being sure that i can swap it. at first i was thinking of swapping other housings/wheels on this one i have with new seals and a bearing but i looks more expensive

project89

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just get the 3582 then as they spec out as true gt3582's

if u had a turbo with the stage3 turbine i.e a gn intercooled turbo id say go for the 66 and swap the wheel like fast is going to do

34blazer

im liking these...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GT35-400-500...sories&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GODSPEED-T3-...sories&vxp=mtr


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GT35-TURBO-G...sories&vxp=mtr

project89

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this one ships from china so dont buy it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GT35-400-500...sories&vxp=mtr
the other 2 would be fine when u get one just verify the compressor wheel measures 61mm inducer 82mm exducer

34blazer

kewl man. im prolly gonna jump on it then, ill get in touch with the seller tomorrow after i wake up lol

*just emailed them now, couldnt wait*

project89

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lmao

fasteddi

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Awome joe. Cant wait to see the build. Yes im going to use the 67mm unit, and if I need to use the ex housing off the 57mm unit i already have.

project89

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fast more then likley u will have to take the compressor cover backing plate and wheel off the 67 and bolt it to the 57 not just swap the housing

34blazer

just ordered this....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271046032590...84.m1423.l2649

Street Lethal

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Wow, it's been a long time since I even looked at a stock Hot Air turbo charger from the 84/85 models. I have the measurements somewhere, I just have to find them. I can definitely tell you that they only flowed ~390 cfm at 15psi, which is horrific. Nice choice on the GT3582R by the way, now I can't wait to see this thing get done...

34blazer

yeah it didnt do much past 3K rpms and turning the boost up didnt do much lol. it had good bottom end torque tho. i have 3 day weekends from now on so i should be able to work on it once a week hopefully. just need to find a decent gas sipper beater, mustang doesnt like 550 miles a week lol

project89

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when it arrives just be sure to pull the compressor cover and measure the wheel ebay turbos dont always turn out to be what there listed as.

34blazer

ill be sure to do that, thanks!

34blazer

im going to start shopping for related parts as well.

since all of my experience is with internal wastegate turbos, im not sure what size wastegate to get. i have an srt4 intercooler, but thats probably way too small, so im going to sell that one and find something better.

needed parts list...

1. intercooler
2. wastegate
3. exhaust piping, which i have some that i can use. so i wont need much. also going to flip the headers and see how easy it will be to modify.
4. 3" ex downpipe
5. oil feed/drain lines
6. need to configure wiring for $59
7. wideband
8. flange for turbo, v bands
9. flange for wastegate and piping
10. charge piping
11. alky

fasteddi

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$59?? Sweet. I got some killer start up bins if you would want any to play with when the time comes. Just let me know.

Wideband? See if 14point7.com still has any slc-diy2 kits. Thats what I got and love the thing. http://14point7.com/SLC-DIY-2.php

Alky? Awsome, thats something I wish I would of used from the start.

You need to come back over to Ohio....

Thats a nice turbo though, anti surge caseing always helps, hopefully you dont ever need it though. You set that up nice and that blazer will probly smoke my Camaro...

34blazer

sweet man, ill def hit you up for some starter bins. also going to get the DIY2 from 14.7, i have the PP2 and love it.

project89

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35/38mm wastegate will be fine
for the feeds and drians use pushlock hose and fittings, nexto the turbo this is prolly the most expspensive thing on the list

for the intercooler if buying ebay intercoolers dont buy one of the 24x6x2.3 cores they are to small

realisticly u want one of the large cores though being in ablazer i dont know how much room u have
i would use the 32x12x3 if u can fit it

the only bov i recomend is the rfl style bov

also let me know if u need a hand putting it all together , ive been looking for an excuse to load up the gf and the car hit up vegas


if u need help on any of the parts let me know and ill get u links

34blazer

i was thinking steel lines for feed and drains, gives it more of an OEM look.

well i going to start tearing it down on the weekend of the 21st, id have to look into escorting you on base, shouldnt be hard tho.

im going to look up intercoolers now....

34blazer

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...506.m270.l1313

fasteddi

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Just get the largest possible, mine was way too small for my app.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-In...ae65f6&vxp=mtr

There ya go,your links got plenty of them..lol

Are you going to put a ally kit together or buy one per made??

project89

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try to get a bar and plate
this one is cheap and apears to be bar and plate if the picture is accurate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-MOUNT-...sories&vxp=mtr
100 bucks reread the description it is bar and plate


this one is 95 bucks and apears to be bar and plate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-JD...sories&vxp=mtr

project89

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hjere is a v mount that may be easier to mount in the nose of the blazer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-In...e586b1&vxp=mtr

34blazer

thats what i was thinking, i have no A/C condenser so it should fit neatly there, i can drill holes in the bottom too

fasteddi

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That's what I did, I know mines smaller but there is a ton do room left on my 27 inch wide IC

project89

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from what i remeber form looking at my friends 2.8 blazer the v mount was a really good fit and made the routing of the charge pipe easier

project89

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wastegate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/38MM-VR-STYL...4c891b&vxp=mtr

u can use brake lines for the oil feed, any parts store should carry inverted flare to npt pipe adapters , screw and adapter into the block, one into the turbo and connect with inverted flare tubing

for the drian use the pushlock stuff atleast -10

project89

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-4100-AEM-...049f9e&vxp=mtr cheaper then the 14.7 unit and simple to install has extra outputs both simulated narrow band and 0-5 volt outputs for ecm

its what i use in my iroc

34blazer

going up for sale tonight...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=f9b0fc6edf