BANDITSBC

thinking of adding a little insurance and for the price $350ish. i think its worth it.

Im doing the HR power tour in June then hitting the dyno for some tuning and would like to have everything set.

anyone tuned with it? any recommendations?

thanks in advance!

midias

I have not seen a lot on this board but a lot of the turbo guys on the solara board use it.

anesthes

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It's not insurance, it's actually just purchasing something to blow your motor up with.

You get the alky running, and you advance your timing, and you are all happy because you can run more advance and more boost.

Then halfway through a pass in the 1/4, or a chug up hill, the pump fails, nozzle clogs, or you just run out. Then your piston rings rip the top of the piston off.

-- Joe

89mulletbird

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I've been running Razor's Alky kit on my TTA for 7 years. If you know your car well, you can tell when the alky system is malfunctioning and avoid frag'ing your engine.

noboostnogo

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I use it on mine!

sailtexas186548

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are you scared of n2o too? used improperly anything can be an issue... simple fix dont be an idiot and run out, if your that worried build a meth level monitoring gauge, or better yet a system that will cut boost when meth is low/out. It would be very simple to do

anesthes

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I, as well as Bruce Plecan, did a lot of testing with this many many years ago, before many of our members had FI, and others even had drivers licenses. So my advice to newer members is to tread carefully when using it.

It works (although not as efficient as actually cooling down the charge), yet a failure during a 1/4 mile run on a high boost, high horsepower (550+) application could lead to serious problems. My situation was a pump failure at 15+ psi, and lots of spark advance trying to make the car go faster than 120mph, which it ran consistantly. Mid pass it detonated, and I backed off. Pulled the heads off the next day and #3 and #4 pistons had the tops removed.

It's temping to spray a bunch of alky, but it's a band aid that will bite you.

-- Joe

86Z

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i use a snow stage ii in addition to a 3 core intercooler with 14lbs of boost, i love it keeps it nice and cold, i was running full timing before the addition of water/meth

sailtexas186548

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so 10+ year old technology is what you have experience with....

anything component failing during a pass in a high power car is going to have serious consequences, meth/h2o is no different. I suppose mixing some race gas in your tank is a band aid to you as well? what about spraying a ton of nitrous? what if a fuel solenoid sticks? no difference.

anesthes

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No, that's just plain silly. Why would you spend hours upon hours tuning a car, to then go to the track and add fuel with a different specific gravity and screw up your tune?

I don't care if you run alky injection. My point is to not tune the car so it depends on alky to stay out of detonation. It's just advice. Nobody has to take it.

-- Joe

fasteddi

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I agree to that. In new at boost, but I though alky injec. was so that you could protect your engine better. We all know that if you have it set up right you can jack the timing and boost up but its not just to add power but to prevent high intake temps/discharge temps and in turn preventing KR.



I would have alky if I had the extra cash, My future plan was to tune the car without alky, then run the alky as a saftey net. Thats just me though as I dont wana make my motor go boom under any condition. I run 12.5psi on my regular tune and a slight hicup on a stock bottom end will ruin my day.