Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
02-28-2010, 07:05 AM
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Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
Hello, I'm French and I have Camaro LB8 2,8L V6 MPFI, manual 5 speed of 1986.I would the maximum performance, but in France the data and the parts are rare, to see non-existent, and the rare dealer of American parts have a so enormous margin, that here one pay three to four times the price of the parts. To start, I had thought of a eprom Jet chip Stage 2 and one kit camshaft Edelbrock, the installation of turbo, injectors (I do not know what yet) and a lock-right differential (I do not know yet which). I would like to be able to make drift later.Thank you to help me to choose the best, while being simplest possible, because my English is not very developed, as you can see it!
I order my parts at:
- Rockauto
- SummitRacing
- Classic Industries
If you can me advise others of them, do not hesitate, knowing that the expenses of delivery and customs duty for France are exorbitant!
Thanks a lot !
I order my parts at:
- Rockauto
- SummitRacing
- Classic Industries
If you can me advise others of them, do not hesitate, knowing that the expenses of delivery and customs duty for France are exorbitant!
Thanks a lot !
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03-01-2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
no parts found for FI V6 2.8L on edelbrock and holley, only carbs parts.
are turbo and chip the only one solution for instant performances for this engine ?
are turbo and chip the only one solution for instant performances for this engine ?
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
I would have to agree with daverr on this one. If you're looking for all out performance, there aren't many engines worse to start with than the 60 degree 2.8. However, If you're just looking for something that would be a fun and cheap project though, the 2.8 could work fine. I think you'll have a much harder time over there finding 2.8 parts than 5.0 or 5.7 parts when you break the engine!
Problem is, you'll have about the same money into turbocharging the 2.8 as you would a TPI car.. still need all the same goods, turbo, wastegate, downpipe, charge tubing, fuel management (megasquirt or better) and injectors (well you'd save some on the six, needing two less!).
Here are some turbo 2.8's on youtube so maybe you can find out some things from these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihEDux2LfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuaIn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpM3PFL_BnE
Problem is, you'll have about the same money into turbocharging the 2.8 as you would a TPI car.. still need all the same goods, turbo, wastegate, downpipe, charge tubing, fuel management (megasquirt or better) and injectors (well you'd save some on the six, needing two less!).
Here are some turbo 2.8's on youtube so maybe you can find out some things from these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihEDux2LfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuaIn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpM3PFL_BnE
03-01-2010, 07:31 PM
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
the upper intake manifold on '85 up iron head 2.8 is
quite restrictive to flow because the air has to make
a sharp turn of around 270*as it exits the top piece and
enters the 2nd,runner piece (air has weight and does
not like to change direction at high velocity)The intake
can be modified by adding by spacers between upper
piece and runnners,and doing some die grinder work
to form a smoother radius at the restriction area i have
mentioned above.Also heads can use some porting
work in the bowl area and exhaust ports.Headers will
also help. Actually lots of potential in the GM 60*
v-6
quite restrictive to flow because the air has to make
a sharp turn of around 270*as it exits the top piece and
enters the 2nd,runner piece (air has weight and does
not like to change direction at high velocity)The intake
can be modified by adding by spacers between upper
piece and runnners,and doing some die grinder work
to form a smoother radius at the restriction area i have
mentioned above.Also heads can use some porting
work in the bowl area and exhaust ports.Headers will
also help. Actually lots of potential in the GM 60*
v-6
03-02-2010, 03:34 PM
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
Thanks a lot guys, 8t2 z-chev have u got a threads or a website where i can see the necessary parts (spacers) and the modification of the upper intake manifold.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
i had to custom make those parts,that is the biggest
problem with the 2.8-avalibility of special parts has
gone down over the last 20yrs or so as (at least in the
USA)as there is not much demand for high performance
parts for the 2.8 anymore(around 1984 you could get a
little roots style supercharger for the 2.8
)
In 1999,ordering parts for a 2.8 fiero buildup i found
many of the parts i wanted had been discontinued
Renault sold some of the new,smaller,'84 up jeep
cherokees over there in france and some of those used
the 2.8 up through 1986,so might be a source of
stock parts closer to home.
If you move this thread to "v6"section there might be
more ideas over there
problem with the 2.8-avalibility of special parts has
gone down over the last 20yrs or so as (at least in the
USA)as there is not much demand for high performance
parts for the 2.8 anymore(around 1984 you could get a
little roots style supercharger for the 2.8
)In 1999,ordering parts for a 2.8 fiero buildup i found
many of the parts i wanted had been discontinued
Renault sold some of the new,smaller,'84 up jeep
cherokees over there in france and some of those used
the 2.8 up through 1986,so might be a source of
stock parts closer to home.
If you move this thread to "v6"section there might be
more ideas over there
03-03-2010, 06:00 AM
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
But for make this parts you have see it anywhere, i want the necessary data for make it.
03-03-2010, 08:27 AM
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/3...ing-turbo.html
Try eBay. We can use some junkyard/used parts as upgrades. We have a common injector type, so MANY larger flow injectors will fit. Also, a cheap differential is one out of a 4th gen. I paid under $100 after shipping for mine with very low miles.
I wouldn't get the Jet chip. I have one and I think its worthless.
Not sure if they ship internationally, but also try Hawks Thirdgen, Year One, and Eckler's Camaro. Just be aware that all three are kinda pricey.
Best places on here to ask would be the v6 section and the EU section. Maybe they can help you more.
Try eBay. We can use some junkyard/used parts as upgrades. We have a common injector type, so MANY larger flow injectors will fit. Also, a cheap differential is one out of a 4th gen. I paid under $100 after shipping for mine with very low miles.
I wouldn't get the Jet chip. I have one and I think its worthless.
Not sure if they ship internationally, but also try Hawks Thirdgen, Year One, and Eckler's Camaro. Just be aware that all three are kinda pricey.
Best places on here to ask would be the v6 section and the EU section. Maybe they can help you more.
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
Absolutely. Here's what you need for fuel management.
I would imagine volvo parts are pretty common over there. With a little cutting the intercooler off a 740(?) can be made to fit infront of the radiator. Turbo is sized well for a stock 2.8 as well.
I would imagine volvo parts are pretty common over there. With a little cutting the intercooler off a 740(?) can be made to fit infront of the radiator. Turbo is sized well for a stock 2.8 as well.
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
I would have to agree with daverr on this one. If you're looking for all out performance, there aren't many engines worse to start with than the 60 degree 2.8. However, If you're just looking for something that would be a fun and cheap project though, the 2.8 could work fine. I think you'll have a much harder time over there finding 2.8 parts than 5.0 or 5.7 parts when you break the engine!
Problem is, you'll have about the same money into turbocharging the 2.8 as you would a TPI car.. still need all the same goods, turbo, wastegate, downpipe, charge tubing, fuel management (megasquirt or better) and injectors (well you'd save some on the six, needing two less!).
Here are some turbo 2.8's on youtube so maybe you can find out some things from these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihEDux2LfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuaIn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpM3PFL_BnE
Problem is, you'll have about the same money into turbocharging the 2.8 as you would a TPI car.. still need all the same goods, turbo, wastegate, downpipe, charge tubing, fuel management (megasquirt or better) and injectors (well you'd save some on the six, needing two less!).
Here are some turbo 2.8's on youtube so maybe you can find out some things from these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihEDux2LfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuaIn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpM3PFL_BnE
u could turbo the car pretty cheap for gains of about 75 -125 hp on a bone stock engine with the stock computer
for gains bigger then thast will require a cam/headwork and some real turbo headers https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/5...own-turbo.html
it all depends on what u want out of the car post up some serious goals and ppl will be able to help u out better with whatever u need
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The stock computer's actually not a bad choice for MILD turbocharging because of the way the spark retard vs MAT table is set up. But the stock maf is worthless for tubocharging, which is something I wanted to mention in my pm. You should really consider getting a tbird maf or LS1 maf & a translator if you plan on more than 6psi so you don't lean out.
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Re: Help a french to boost his camaro 2.8L V6
The stock computer's actually not a bad choice for MILD turbocharging because of the way the spark retard vs MAT table is set up. But the stock maf is worthless for tubocharging, which is something I wanted to mention in my pm. You should really consider getting a tbird maf or LS1 maf & a translator if you plan on more than 6psi so you don't lean out.
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