jon_volk

this is for my monte carlo but what are the pros/cons over using a stealth ram vs. a converted LT1 intake for a turbocharged 350 running between 15 and 20psi?

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

Personal Preferance is what it comes down to.

The Only Con with the LT1 is I didnt like the damm remote T state housing so I got rid of mine befor I even fired up the motor.

Then Again I got rid of my HSR I had also.

83 Crossfire TA

iTrader: (2)

So what are you going to run now, TPl383?

As far as under boost… your boost will have a much greater effect on power production then your intake choice. Choose what you like and go with that. Personally, I think that the stealth ram looks hokey, and the LT1 looks rigged by the time you get all the plumbing done to it. I mostly like how the TPI looks but I think it's a piece of crap and a hassle to work on, seems like you have to stop everything and spend half a day taking half of it apart to change anything in the fuel system.

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

Hrmm.. It normally takes less than 10 minutes with the air ratchet to take the runnes/plenum off to get access to the fuel rails. I'm using allen head bolts though, not the torx and an allan swivel (ball end) driver.

-- Joe

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

I havent desided on that yet... I sold my superram also. Im wishing I would have keep that now. But since Im gona run them Twins I got off you and I really dont have a major HP goal. Im thinking a simeesed edelb.base Sell the SLP runners and get some AS&M runners. and a 52MM TB. 12psi and I have no clue what Cam or Injectors yet.

Then again I could sell all that crap and buy a FIRST setup. Seein badSS's thread That looks like a nice setup.

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

I'm trying to fab a ls1 75mm tb right now to a TPI plenum. I have ported slp injectors and edel base, but I'm gonna run a set of true siamesed stockers that bandit'91 made.

Just gotta open 'em up a little more and port 'em.

-- Joe

NOSFEDGTA

After running an after market tpi setup, superram, and stealth ram, Iw oudl go with the stealth ram. This is just my opinion

83 Crossfire TA

iTrader: (2)

I'm sure that makes it faster, but there is no way that you're pulling the inlet ducting, the throttle linkage (or TB), linkage bracket, removing 8 bolts and loosening 12, disconnecting a PVC, 4 vacuum lines and an electrical connector disconnecting 2 fuel lines/brackets and then removing the fuel rails with their funky links and regulator body (I don't remember, does the egr have to go to mess with the injectors?) in anything close to 10 minutes. And if you do it more then once with an air ratchet without stripping some of the threads sunk in aluminum I'd consider you extremely lucky. Same deal with the gaskets, even if you coat them with some non hardening sealer. With an LT1 intake it's literally 4 bolts and 2 push lock fuel lines and the fuel rail is out with the injectors, no gaskets to worry about, nothing. With an SR it's a little bit more then that but not much.

Not sure that I ever understood the point of messing with the stock TPI setup to that extent unless you're just going for that look. I know that appearances are fairly important on your car… It's too bad that there isn't really a killer looking intake setup for these. I like what the TPI looks like with polished runners. I also liked that first gen that was running around a while back with a TPI plenum modified too work on a tunnel ram base (I know, basically the same idea as the SR, but it looked SOOO MUCH BETTER).

Why would you do that? You'll end up with the flow of a 52mm throttle body, tip in problems without a major reprogramming, linkage problems (I suppose that you could grind the linkage off of the stock TPI TB and weld it on) and a major PITA to adapt it.

What are you gaining?

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

Ya Apperance is a Must since Im gona be using it as a Demo kinda way for all Local shows on Coatings I do etc.

And I deff. Agree on the Plenum moded for a TunnerRam setup.
Kinda Like the FireFox???


Ive thought of getting creative and buyn another HSR and just ditching the stock plenum and making one.

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

Every time I change something on my car, my ve is way different. I tune my car year round.

Anyway, the 75mm is equal to a twin 53.. more than my twin 48.
And instead of splitting it off in the discharge tube, then the airfoil into two holes, it can be almost a straight 3" shot into the plenum..

-- Joe

83 Crossfire TA

iTrader: (2)

yea, TPl383, kinda like that (I wish I had some bigger pics). But the car I was describing actually has it done better.

I've got a few pics of similar setups...

83 Crossfire TA

iTrader: (2)

Now this is the one that I was looking for

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

That Looks like the Street and Performance one..

ya id deff like to know what They used on the FireFox and see better pic's

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

hows this look for ya

RMK

That's nice, is it yours? If so how much did it cost and where from?

Thanks

SATURN5

Thats a custom upper made from a TPI plenum and a tunnel ram, by Mark Stieglow. Lots of TIG work there..

On a side note, I just bought a Stealth Ram..

Going to stick the crossram on a another 305 and make a single TBI plate and drop it into my F100. BW

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

not mine. It was coustom made for a member on the corvette forums for his 532bb with a prochareger in a 91vette.

The post with the owner of the car.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=718301


Pics of the process It took to make it.
http://www.hotrodsolutions.net/EFI4.html

Cost was $3100bucks I belive Last post one the 1st page.

tons more pic's of the motor in the post he made on the cf forum.



BW,

You have the HSr on yet? any pic's?

83 Crossfire TA

iTrader: (2)

OK, mind you I know that I'm being a PITA and overly critical… but I always thought that intake was a great example of having too many cool tools and some skills (I say "some" since a lot of that could have been done better/faster, and after spending over $3K to have it made the owner still had to spend something like another $300 it flat enough to seal on the engine) and to little knowledge.

For his roughly $3.5K he probably has the same A/F distribution issues that you get with an LT1 but much worse. I'll bet that his rear cylinders are running much leaner then the front. Runners that are too short. Air actually has to reverse direction to get into the front runners, plenum volume/TB that are too small for the 500and some CI that it's on... Not to mention I think the top welds on the plenum are ugly.

I understand that all of this probably couldn't have been fixed perfectly and still fit well in the 'vette, but it could have been much better. I'd bet that Hogan's would have made something that at least didn't look like a gift wrapped elephant.

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

he even says in the thread somewhere He prob would have been better of going with a Hogans, and it prob would have been cheaper.

83 Crossfire TA

iTrader: (2)

$3100… what is that, a full weeks worth of labor + supplies??? Damn… I'm in the wrong line of work. I could have done better in a week of nights with about a $1000 infusion of tools into my shop.