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Old 01-26-2004, 07:17 PM
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ati P-1SC users on stock or close to stock 350/305 engines, long term updates / ?'s

when u buy the kit some sites just say this 1GC211-SCI HO Intercooled with P-1SC 9, 12 psi

do u get both pulley's to get either psi, i ask because other sites u have to chose the psi and others u dont.

also i would like some updates from people who use that kit or even any ati kit for that matter, i havent seen a thread like this in a while, just wanted to bring it up again.

i see alot of people with the kits mentioned in their sig's or under their names but dont really see post by them saying anything about the kits.


i am very close to making my mind up on this kit and slap it on my formula, just want to see how long it will hold up for every day driving with the 9 psi procharger on it.

also i guess it would be possible to unhook the intercooler piping and throw a filter on the tb and take the belt off the charger when i dont want to use it.

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You only get one pulley, additional pulleys are $60. Also how many miles is on your motor? The kits are complete and pretty straight forward for installation.
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I have had my D1sc for 3 years, it's not a daily driver, but i wouldn't hesitate to use it that way if i had too.

As far as taking the belt off, that would be way more of a hassle than what i would want to go thru. but it can be done.

I believe that the HO kit includes the 3-core intercooler instead of the 2-core, but if i were you and owned a 'bird, then i would opt for the twin intercooler system that Tenacious Motorsports offers, because of the lack of air inlet in the front of the 'bird
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I can pretty much guarantee once that belt is on you will NEVER want to drive it without!
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the kit is not hard to install. the instructions suck. I think a person is better off using thier head when they get to a part of the instructions in conflict. BTW when the instructions say cut the fuel hoses don't. That part of the instructions is out dated. the kit comes with an FMU that is essentially plug and play.
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hmm the twin intercooled seemed like alot more work to me, but what a sweet setup.

umm the whole belt thing, i was thinking i would most likely need to take it off so i could pass emissions, but it might pass with it.


yeah i just want the lowest setup that was intercooled and self contained, and 9 psi.

pretty sure my engine should last for awhile, doesnt seem to burn oil, i have the normal oil thats on top of the intake manifold all my other 350 tpi thirdgens have had alittle oil like that and the engine ran great.

but its running rich now with no cats an just failed emissions recently.

i have about almost 80,000 miles right now, i figure just slap it on and see what happens. better wait alittle longer to see if i can afford this or not.

the ati kits seem to be great kits, and the self containment and intercooler really turns me on to them.
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umm the whole belt thing, i was thinking i would most likely need to take it off so i could pass emissions, but it might pass with it.
Why not cars in california do all the time. some of thier kits are 50 state legal...
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Do yourself a huge favor if you end up getting a Procharger, and DO NOT GET THE P1SC! If you are going to spend this much money, save up a little bit more and buy the D1SC. Trust me, you will be much happier in the end. Boost is addictive, and you'll end up wanting more of it. I'm spinning my P1SC as high as it can go and I'm only seeing 10lbs. of boost. Now I have to upgrade to a D1 to get more boost. And I know your bottom end is stock so you may only want to run 9lbs., but if your engine blows you can rebuild for all the boost you want.

Ask B4CTom, I think he's kind of in the same boat as me. Although he got such a good deal on his 91 Camaro w/ the P1, he couldn't pass it up.
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I highly agree about getting the D1-SC instead.
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yeah but i only want the lowest because my engine is stock and the car is my daily driver. but i will look into it i guess.
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I agree also, on the D1sc choice....

Take Willie for example, he started out with a paxton SN series on his 305, then moved up to a D1sc, and now he is using the F1sc...keep in mind that this car is a daily driver with all the creature comforts and emissions compliant. not to mention he should be easily in the 10's

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Emissions should not be a reason to take the belt off, as the emissions probably will be hardly effected. Any of the centrifical superchargers are emissions compliant i believe.
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Not all ATI kit have received the E.O. numbers yet...last time i talked with Dorion at ATI he said they were trying to get them on most of the lowerend units...meaning the P1's and possibly the D1's

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I sold the guy that owned the 91 I have a P1sc kit back when I was a dealer. I wish I would have talked him into the D-1sc :'(
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Tom that sucks! but you still got one hell of a deal. I'm still pissed at myself for not buying the D1
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yes that is basically my point. I have never met anyone with a P600b or P1sc that said, I don't need/want a D-1/F-1 what I have is big enough.
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Exactly Tom. So MdFormula, even if you are content w/ 9lbs. so that you don't blow up the bottom end just think of the big picture. Eventually when you do a rebuild that can handle more boost, all you will have to do is change pulleys on the D1 instead of upgrading to a D1. Money saved in the long run, take it for what it's worth.
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yes what a vicious circle it is just look at the 91 in my sig, the discription on my site is a perfect example of the win/win situation of buying a blower.

win: makes lots of power and engine never blows

win: engine blows and you build a bad *** one and go "Mofassa"
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"Mofassa" LMAO
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