B4Ctom1

ok people thank me later, but for now I would like to show you what happens if you get rid of the A/C and decide to put a FMIC in front of the radiator. This is the room for the most part you will have. what I dont have here is a "depth" or core thickness measurement. If I remember I will add one later. I do know there is less room at the bottom than at the top.

let me know if this helps.

if you look in the center of the picture at the top it is lower near the latch area. also all measurments were done with a tape measure but still are approximations because I did not repeat the measurement all along the area to make sure there is not a +/- along the way.

B4Ctom1

driverside if you wanted to noitch the support for the inlet/outlet

B4Ctom1

pass side if you want to relocate the battery and notch there too

B4Ctom1

as you can see my car is already equiped with a 3 core ATI procharger intercooler. As you can see in the top picture it is shrouded some by the factory venting. I made these measurements for future use in case I decide to run a regular FMIC. I may just pull some of the venting out.

Dustin Mustangs

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Touche B4C, touche!

FSTFBDY

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Goood pic's. I have the front clip off my car. If its nice out this weekend I'll add to this thread with how I planed to put my FMIC.

B4Ctom1

oh please do, see if you can do the same for the front. show if you can how much space in front between the clip and the front of the clip if any.

FSTFBDY

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The only problem with that is , Ive removed everything up there and Im gona be running a Chromeolly brace not the waffer crash support.

askulte

Would that be considered a "bmic" (bottom mount intercooler)? I always thought of front mounts as vertical (same plane as rad.) in front of the radiator. Maybe I'm just cranky from these allergies...



I had some pictures of the Spearco 2-182 core that got lost in cyberspace, but http://www.skulte.com/intercooler.html has a few before the core was mounted. It's set up w/ 3" in/out on the sides, where the piping goes just above the bumper brackets and below the Camaro headlights.

A.

FSTFBDY

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Pretty much like you have setup there....

nightrider87

This may change the way i plan to mount mine. possibly it can fit right up in front of the rad instead of way up front between the frame rails.

BBSDesigns

Hi B4Ctom1,
Very good thread! Here is my .02 cents;
I dont have measurements, but I did measure my intercooler which is located just between the stock steel front bar and the clip. The intercooler is 46" long x 8" in height with a 2" core, tanks are 2 1/2" in width. Both the inlet and outlet of the IC are pointed downwards, sorry no space for fog lights. If the intercooler would have been a bit shorter I would have been able to re-install the fog lights. I also bend the intercooler slightly in a curved like shape to match the front stock steel bar. Opps, almost forget, I removed the plastic parts attached to the bar to make space.
Hope this helps to anyone,
Edgardo

B4Ctom1

Andris how did you know how to make that bar fit in such a blind place? bend and fit to the nose, then figure out the offset from the front of the car?

Do you think it cut weight as well?

did it give enough support to the nose to prevent it from distorting during highway driving?

askulte

I measured the angles on the outside of the nose, inside width, and then bent the bumper to fit. It's fairly quick if you've got a bender. It's been a while since I did that, so this might not be correct. I think I bolted the nose and bumper bar back on, then made the legs supporting the bumper bar, and welded that in place.

I'm not sure what the weight is, but it didn't feel much different than stock, since I wanted to have some protection when racing.

The front of the nose does not distort at all, but rather the top sags a bit (from the middle ridge line on either side). This is a repro nose, not OEM GM.

A.

FSTFBDY

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Off topic but Look at this for designs for front and rear supports tom.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=263419

B4Ctom1

wow, just wow


I want!

FSTFBDY

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IC pis's I came yesterday but TGO was being stupid.

anyways I will try and mock it in place soon as I get a chance.

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...rboMotor/FMIC/

FSTFBDY

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Bump..

grabed my fmci and safty wired it in place just to see where Im gona put this thing...

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car.../FMIC/testfit/

nightrider87

That's going to be a lot simpler than getting mine to fit. I would like to get that done this winter too.....

83 Crossfire TA

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TPl383, that’s a pretty decent fit… too bad it’s not just a little taller to better take advantage of the available space… I know you’ve posted them before, but you mind posting the dimensions of that IC?

nightrider87

FSTFBDY

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24x12x3

I really wish it was 24x15x3.5 but the price was right.
$250 for this compaired to $500ish for a core in the size I would have liked.

rtkjadams

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Here is a couple pictures of my setup. Intercooler measures : 31" x 12" x 3" I had to make a spacer for the Top Radiator / Fan mount to move the Radiator back toward the engine to make room.

rtkjadams

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Intercooler Intake:
I had to notch the vertical support.

rtkjadams

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here is the Outlet

FSTFBDY

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Does that one look like mine when outa the car? My measurements are the core the end tank to end tank is 31 also like yours. I just chose to mount it out front and lower. Im gona bring the pipes up throuh the bottom.

rtkjadams

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Almost identical

JoBy

Another variation. ( Click to enlarge )

FSTFBDY

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With the way I plan to drop the bottom Radiator mout out and lower my Griffin Rad to be flush onder the top support I cant run my IC like the above pic's.

I want the rad hiden under the support as my #1 priority. I'll deal with doing my IC tubes from under.

anesthes

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You guys really think those are better mounting locations that ATI ?

I'm curious how much air will actually flow through them, or are you planning on running the fans pretty much constant?

The only other issue, is it doesnt leave much room for the oil cooler.

-- Joe

FSTFBDY

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Should flow fine this way. thats how 90% of the Turbo setups are.

Still pleanty of room for a Oil cooler in my setup. Theres still a few inches between the FMIC and the Griffin Alum Rad.

Why run the fans all the time? The airflow for the Rad is still there with the lower air damm. and the FMIC from the front and under also.

Should be just fine.

anesthes

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I bought one the other night. Hope it works for my setup:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7937140345

What do you think?

-- Joe

FSTFBDY

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exact same one as mine. Just a diff. Company.

Do a search on OBX on the LS1 and turbomustang boards. Verry similar FMIC and people get good results out of them.

anesthes

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Cool. I'm gonna install it pretty much the same way Adam did his. Just recess my rad forward a little.

-- Joe

anesthes

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Well it just showed up. Pretty damn good quality!

-- Joe

FSTFBDY

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FOr the **** you cant beat it...

super_kev

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Bringing this back from the dead here... how were you engine and IAT temps in the summer? On my T/A, I'd either have to mount the IC this way, or directly in front of the radiator and A/C condensor (FMIC), which I'm concerned will block the airflow and give me cooling problems in 100 degree weather.

daves12secV6

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i put mine further foward so i could keep the ac in the car(ended up taking it out for the weight anyway though lol),dont have the ic measurements off hand but it fits nice ,with no ground clearance issues





it sits higher then the front gfx by about 2 inches and hits the were the hood latch closes,the only thing i didnt think about was the hood safty latch,i had to remove mine to make the hood close but since i have a bolton cowl hood i just got pins for it

daves12secV6

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on mine before the fmic i ran real cool 160* now it gets upto about 190* with the intecooler mounted there,and now that ive taken out the ac stuff its droped about another 10* so im avg about 180* temps in 90+* weather

super_kev

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But you are also running a smaller FMIC and engine (V6). I know a bigger FMIC and V8 would put out more heat.

daves12secV6

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yeah i know i figure id post up just so u could see the diff it made,im swaping out that ic for a 3inch thick bar and plate style soon.
u shoudl be fine with a 160* stat and a good fan though,once im over 20mph i dont even need to turn my fan on,so u shouldl be fine even with a v8,id just get a good fan

vwdave

Can anyone get me a good picture of the area between the tire and the front bumper? My car is in my storage bay and I am installing twin side mounts.