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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:43 AM
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Car: 88 Formula 350
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How is my shifting?

Car has a Pro 5.0 shifter. I think once I get the tune dialed in, and the 9" installed I am going to play with the devil and get some slicks. The street tires and clutch slipping sucked.

Old 04-11-2013 | 12:25 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

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Car has a Pro 5.0 shifter. I think once I get the tune dialed in, and the 9" installed I am going to play with the devil and get some slicks. The street tires and clutch slipping sucked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZa-t...6hQ44g&index=1
What's your combo / E.T. MPH?
Old 04-11-2013 | 04:03 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

Shitty. I am not worried about my E.T, just trying to figure out how much room I have to improve on my shifting.
Old 04-11-2013 | 07:35 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

Not bad, If you want to get faster try sliding your foot off the clutch when it's on the floor instead of letting up like that.
Old 04-11-2013 | 07:35 PM
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Car: 86 TA, 91 B4C
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Re: How is my shifting?

Looks like your shifter is clunky and of very smooth. I use a stock Hurst and a short stick with my Trans. Was great, after the rebuild it was like butter. Keep at it, but from what I can tell, that shifter is not in your element yet.
Old 04-11-2013 | 09:27 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

The shifter was pretty new... I would guess maybe 1500 miles and 2 weeks old.
Old 04-11-2013 | 09:49 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

You need more gear. RPMs are still climbing in fourth gear as you cross the finish line. Of course a deeper gear will make traction even worse. Shifting at a slightly higher rpm will do the same thing unless you're already shifting at maximum rpm.

I can't comment on your shifting ability. H pattern shifters with a clutch is not an ideal drag strip transmission to begin with. It's hard on gears but once you get moving, it's faster to shift without using the clutch. Every time that clutch pedal goes down and the throttle lifts, you're coasting, not accelerating.

Very short throws would really help.
Old 04-11-2013 | 10:00 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

I'm getting a 9" with 3.90 gears or so installed this year while I am deployed. Car is also getting LCARBs and Slicks for the track next.
Old 04-12-2013 | 07:09 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

Should go with deeper gears, but 3.90 will be ok with a 26 inch tall tire. Just keep banging gears. Only way to get better.
Old 04-12-2013 | 07:31 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

3-4 looked a little delayed, like the 3-4 upshift syncho's might have been worn, or you just took some time to get it into 4th.

Otherwise your shifting looks like every other guy I've seen shifting a H-pattern box that didn't want to hate on the transmission.

You can start power shifting it without the clutch, but its HARD on the syncho's. And its very possible to shear teeth off if you screw it up.

I say if you want ultimate drag times, go auto. If you enjoy driving manual, shift it fast, but use the clutch. Stock or stock rebuilt transmissions don't like clutchless shifting.
Old 04-13-2013 | 07:05 AM
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Re: How is my shifting?

just to make sure i understand what is being said .
there is a way to shift a synchronized transmission without using a cluth to release one gear and engauge another gear without lifting off the throttle?
I have never seen that.
You can leave your foot on the accelerator on the floor , pushing or pulling on the shifter for the next gear and then stab the clutch to release the gear and it will go into the next gear.

I would like to see a vid where the clutch pedal is not depressed on a conventional synchronized trans while drag racing
Old 04-13-2013 | 01:40 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

Originally Posted by turbotater
just to make sure i understand what is being said .
there is a way to shift a synchronized transmission without using a cluth to release one gear and engauge another gear without lifting off the throttle?
I have never seen that.
You can leave your foot on the accelerator on the floor , pushing or pulling on the shifter for the next gear and then stab the clutch to release the gear and it will go into the next gear.

I would like to see a vid where the clutch pedal is not depressed on a conventional synchronized trans while drag racing
Old 04-13-2013 | 02:41 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

I'd say that trans is built for that.
Old 04-13-2013 | 04:41 PM
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Car: 1991 Christine Z28
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Re: How is my shifting?

It's just a TR6060
Old 04-13-2013 | 06:31 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

watched that vid a couple of times and I cannot tell if he is or is not using the clutch on the shifts.

do you have contact info so they can clarify?
Old 04-14-2013 | 05:09 AM
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Re: How is my shifting?

Their number is on the top of the page http://www.lingenfelter.com/
Old 04-14-2013 | 02:24 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

Getting the fastest shifts can be hard on components. But if you want the fastest shift. First off, dont let off the gas when you shift. Hold light force on the shifter towards your next gear prior to your shift into your next gear. As the clutch releases, you will feel the shifter free up. Use strong fast force to continue into the next gear. Be fast! Also, when you shift, just stab the clutch as fast as possible. Straight up and down without delay. Practice makes perfect.
Old 05-05-2013 | 09:09 PM
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Re: How is my shifting?

I found it easier to start with 1/4 pedal then move to 1/2 power shifts and so on.
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