vortech305

I plan on going Drag racing as soon as ENglishtown opens up next season im finally done with my motor, has lots of work done to it, as of now the shifts are positive the engine rumbles like a big block yet its a modified 305 TPI, I've put countless hours of work,thought into it and i love the results, let me get to the point, What class am i at for Drag racing? Am i stock? or whatever? Please help me out.

another question I really believe my car should hit high 12's But since im gonna go to E- Town and this is gonna be my first pass, what will tech inspect on my car in order for me to race? i need as much information as possible thanx

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

I don't know, I just want to ask what u builtup there.

AlkyIROC

You'll be grouped into what's called ET handicapped racing (bracket racing). E-town is an NHRA track for running high 12's will put you into "Pro" class. Also could be called Pro ET. I have no idea what the IHRA call it.

The ET class designation as per NHRA rulebook is

14 seconds and slower - Sportsman
12.00 - 13.99 - Pro
7.50 - 11.99 - Super Pro

The ET breaks can be adjusted at the tracks discretion. My local track allows Pro class to run as quick at 11.50. Others allow Pro to run as quick as 7.50. The difference being that Pro class is footbrake only. Super Pro is allowed delay boxes and throttle stops (considered electronics).

Just tell tech that you assume it will run high 12's. If you don't have a roll bar plus the extra stuff required to run quicker than 12.0 then they'll give you a 12.00 restriction. After your first pass you should know the potential of the car. If you're anywhere in the 12's or 13's then you run in Pro class. If 13.00 and slower then you're in Sportsman. You can usually go to the tower and tell them that you're changing classes.

To be grouped into "Stock Eliminator" class you need to build the car following very strict rules. I really doubt you would fall into any of those catagorys.

Anything else?

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Best ET on a time slip: 11.447 altitude corrected to 10.99
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Altitude corrected rear wheel HP: 493
Best 60 foot: 1.586

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[This message has been edited by Stephen 87 IROC (edited November 06, 2001).]

NJ SPEEDER

e-town runs real street-open to anyone who has a registered car.
heavy et- open to cars running between 15.99 and 10.00 with no electronics
mean street-for 12.99 and quicker street cars with no electronics
and top street- open to cars that run 11.99 or faster, electronics are allowed

all are bracket classes

later
tim

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vortech305

Geez so much rules. Why is drag racing So complicated, i mean i understand it all, but why no tjust put 1 vehicle on each side race who ever wins wins. here are my mods and some more. oh yeah and im running natural aspirated for the mean time

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GregWestphal

iTrader: (1)

If you're just going to test-n-tune, then all you need is a helmet if you're under 14 seconds, a driveshaft loop if you're running slicks or drag radials, and the usual engine safety equipment like throttle return spring (stock OK), coolant overflow bottle (again, stock is just fine), and a battery hold down (ditto). Tim can fill you in on E-town's rules and what-not for TnT (assuming you're not bracket-racing)...

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'87 IROC 355TPI/A4

vortecfcar

do you have any suspension mods? are you running slicks? If you arent hooking that car hard with 1.7-1.8 sixtys there is no way youre going to hit 12's on that combo.

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Nic

A driveshaft loop is SUPPOSED to be mandatory on any car running 13.99 of faster regardless of whether it's on slicks or not and any car on slicks regardless of ET. If you're planning on running 12's now would be a good time to install one. I'd recommend it on any car, whether rules call for it or not.

Effective Jan. 1, 2002 all helmets must be Snell 90 or higher approved in any vehicle running 13.99 or faster. Again, I'd recommend wearing a helmet regardless of what ET you're running.

Here is a copy of the NHRA's rules. I'm sure it's not up to date for the 2002 season, but it should serve as a general guidline to follow. You ought to be able to pick up a copy of the NHRA rulebook for less than $15 at Englishtown.

You can find all the info you'll need about classes and track rules for Englishtown here

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vortech305

Thanks for the help, but how exactly does a Driveshaft safety look fit on third gen camaros, i mean the Torque arm and 3 inch exhaust system is really close to it.

vortech305

Well so far im Using RS springs which hold better on launching than Z28 springs, and i have Dunlops 245/50ZR16 rubber and billstein shocks and struts, sure i know i might need alot more, but it'll take time

NJ SPEEDER

New Jersey law requirse that a helmet be worn anytime a vehicle is copeteing in any time trial or "racing" activity.
you could run 20's and you would need a helmet at e-town.

later
tim

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vortech305

oh a helmet is not a problem at E-town they u can rent a helmet for only $3.00 for the whole day

duke_mushroom

Hey Vortech, my friend has a 71 Duster. He hasn't had it long though. All he has right now is a modded 360 running about 425 hp. But you're right how many of those do you see on the streets.

88blkiroc

buy a drive shaft loop amde for 3rd gen's and it will fit. I have a jegster loop, its bent to fit over the torque arm.

as for the requirements, if you run faster then 12.99 on a radial, you need a drive shaft loop. anytime u run a slick u have to run a loop. i've argued with the rt.66 techs before and had to whip out the rule book to show i didnt need one till 12.99 cause i had radials. not that i have a problem running one, just didnt have the cash yet.

AlkyIROC

Actually the rule book states that cars running 13.00 and slower don't need a loop if equipped with street tires.

The definition of a street tire is any tire that has a DOT approval. By the wording of the rule book you could run ET Streets, Nittos, or Drag radials and not need a loop if running in the 13's. It's up to you. The factory U-joint isn't that big and if you break the front one it'll cost more than a loop will. I even have one on my 15 second truck (13's with NOS).

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

Regardless of the rule book however, every track has the right to invent a new rule, and thats posted upon entry. Tracks don't like loopholes.

I didn't realize driveshaft loop was a requirements for 13.00 or better radial cars. I race at an IHRA track, and they are a little less picky about that stuff.

I'm using the Lakewood F-body driveshaft loop (stephen's recommendation to me) and it
works absolutely wonderful. Installed in about 30 minutes (on the lift). On the ground might be a little tougher

Part # is: 18020 and is available from
Autozone, summit, jegs, or your local performance store that carries Mr. Gasket
products. Costs: 39.99 - 49.99.

Whats your motor got? I'm trying to get into 12's right now with a 355, naturally. I'd imagine a 305 would be a bit tougher.

-- Joe

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Eightyninef

E-town... they only check your wallet. nothing else. usually $20 plus $2 for a number. you need a helmet, but they don't even look at it. I highly doubt they will look for a DS loop. They might check to see you have on long pants, otherwise just drive it



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Ian_F

When I raced at E-town, I ran on a wednesday night, time trials. For time trials tech doesn't even inspect your car. I was running on two almost bald tires and they didn't even notice! They give you a card when you come in, just fill it out the best you can and hand it to the tech guy. The only thing he asked me was if I had a permanent number. I didn't so he gave me one. Then they tell you what lane to wait in. If you don't have a helmet, you can rent one at the souveneer(sp) shop for three dollars. They also take your license when you rent the helmet. From there you just wait to race.

vortech305

wow didnt realize this post was still up, as of now the car is close to being broken in, its got 300 miles on the motor, and i've been in alot of third gen z28's with 350TPI's and 305 TPI's and my feels like it has some serious power, high 12's maybe if it was perfect, low mid 13's great possiblity, Everything is running smoothly as of now, Im afraid the T-5 might go soon??:shrug: Other than that im gonna break it in normally and when E- Town's new season opens im gonna take it to the track and see what it does. if it does high 13's w/ the Dunlop tires ill be very happy. Since im basically bored with going naturally aspirated already, this Feb. im gonna order an ATI blower with 24Lb injectors, burned prom,and a pair of slicks, im shooting for the 11's if possible, guess well just have to see.