RacinLT1

Hey guys,i just got blasted at 1 of the "other" boards. Just want some views. I have a 1991 Trans Am 305(230hp) 5spd,car has no heat/ac/swaybar/backseat/jack&junk/no vents behind dash/all smog stuff is gone.
The car made it to the track a few times last season,and on all motor with a hypertech,flowmaster,homemade cai,pump and afpr,ran a best of 13.44@101 with a friend driving it. weather was 34* and 40% hum. Then we sprayed the car with a 120 shot,and it blasted a best pass of 12.38@108,running VERY rich. Car still has 3.42 gears,but in spring its getting a 160 shot,3.73's and on a mission to hit 11's and not grenade.As long as it clicks off any kind of an 11 sec pass,we are trying to prove a point. 305's CAN be quick.

AlkyIROC

Using NOS a supercharger or turbo, any car can be quick. Try doing it without any power adders.

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Stephen's racing page

87 IROC-Z Pro ET Bracket Race Car
383 stroker (carbed) with double hump cast iron heads and pump gas
454 Big Block buildup now in progress for the 2001 racing season

Best results before the 383 blew up
Best ET on a time slip: 11.857 altitude corrected to 11.163
Best MPH on a time slip: 117.87 altitude corrected to 126.10
Altitude corrected rear wheel HP based on power to weight ratio: 476.5
Best 60 foot: 1.662

Racing at 3500 feet elevation but most race days it's over 5000 feet density altitude!
Member of the Calgary Drag Racing Association

87 IROC bracket car, 91 454SS daily driver, 95 Homebuilt Harley

RacinLT1

why do it no power adder,thats no fun......lol

firebird305

I don't see nothing wrong with running some kind of poweradder.If funds permit,I will be trying to get a n.o.s. systym myself sometime next spring.I think you have a real good chance of running a 11 second quarter w/a 160 horse shot. If you suceed let us know,That would be great! GOOD LUCK!

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82 firebird with 305H.O.,Block bored .30 over,Keith black hyperutectic flat top pistons for 10 to 1 compression,Turned crank,Magnafluxed connecting rods,Melling H.V. oil pump,and double roller timeing chain,Ported and shaved heads w/3angle valve job,Z-28springs,Summit push rods and comp cams magnum roller rockers,Ported Edelbrock performer r.p.m.intake,Carter 625 afbcarb,Accell spark plugs,wires,and H.E.I.super coil,Heavy duty cap and rotor,Clevite performance cam with 450-460 inches of lift,Comp cams lifters,700r-4 tranny rebuilt with trans-go rebuild kit,corvette servo,New torQue converter,Flowtech headers,Flowmaster muffler,3.73limited slip rear end,Energy suspension bushings from front to rear,Energy suspension tranny mount,New center link,ball joints,trans-am steering box,ASP power pully.

theformula

I think it takes more talent to make a smaller engine faster than it does just dropping a stroker or big block in there. Anyone can drop a bigger engine in there.

I think Willie speaks for all us 305 guys

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91 Formula
305 TPI 5speed
1LE/G92/WS6
Custom cold air intake w/K&N, SLP airfoil, ported plenum, TB coolant bypass,Crane AFPR (47psi),94 octane,Crane Extruded Alum. 1.6 full roller rockers, Timing set from 4*BTDC to 10*BTDC,MSD6AL, Holley 9mm Annihilator Laser shot 50 wires, Ac Delco cap,rotor and plugs, Bosch O2sensor, SLP 1 5/8 headers,SLP catback,3:73s,JET 195* fan switch, Macewen white face gauges, Intellitronix Digital Gauges

Street legal with stock throttle body, runners,intake manifold,cam, and heads.

TINFY Racing

personally i dont like NOS it has become too much of a quick fix. youve got your young hot shots who think they are all that because their car has a NOS system that someone else put on b/c they no nothing about cars other than suppposedly how to drive it. so maybe im weird like that with NOS, but in your case i would love to see a 305 run 11s even if it has a huge shot of NOS and if it doesnt blow and you can run it a few times you may want to consider building a 305 that can handle the NOS. that would get my respect and many others i am sure. good luck with whatever you chose and do what you want its your car and if people cant respect that then screw them.TINFY

Dan87IROC-Z

I agree that it is only fun to make a car fast with no force and no N2O. I mean, a low 10 second NA no NOS car is damn awesome, and thats why I hate ricers, anyone with any money can put a 150 shot on a Paxton and run 10s, but can you with high flow intake, exhaust, cam, heads, gears and so on.

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission with 2.77:1 Rear End

Current Mods: Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Performance Resource Chip with 160* Thermostat, Accel Ignition Coil, Cap, Rotor, 8.8mm Wires, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET : 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

Next on the list: LT4 HOT Cam

Daz

iTrader: (1)

Talent?? You mean $$$

Daz

RacinLT1

I have nothing against an ALL motor 10 sec ride,but it no way could it be as streetable as a low 10 sec ride with a power adder.By Streetable i mean a car that has some chance of passing emissions.
It does take some "talent" to make a nitrous car or a blower car run good.If everyone didnt have some kind of "talent" every nitrous car wouldnt be around would they?

TINFY Racing

Racin you have a good point about emissions i dont have to worry about emissions so i always forget about it, but if i did then power adders would be the way to go. i still wouldnt use NOS, i would probably use turbos just to be different.TINFY

TINFY Racing

speaking of ricers and NOS what i find is really funny is the fact that people think that their civic with the bottle is now faster than anything else only to get walked on by a bone stock fourth gen but of course they then claim something went wrong(yea your head just got deflated)TINFY

MEANGREEN

For anyone with a TPI or LT1, I'd say you're looking at ATI being the best way of getting 10's, but the major factor still remains: You'll need to spend more $ on that short block! NA is unreal when you're street legal, passing smog, and running anything quicker than low 12's. It's hard, it's been done, and it's most of our "goals" whether we admit to it or not. Slicks help, but most will admit to the desire to do it on their street tires, just to say it's a true 11 second or quicker beast. I know I do, and that'll be my goal in Englishtown this year. If so, you'll see me in EFI 12, if I can ever make it consistent.



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Dan Young
1995 Z28/M6
Groton, CT

1985 Z28/A4
(Prospective purchase)

zupmanZ28

Racin,
what track to you go to? im goin to Cecil County feb23 to check things out, then im racing in march, do you go there??

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86 Z28 red,
originally LG4,
new 350,
non comp Qjet,
T-5 five speed with new clutch,
stock 3.23 gears, Edelbrock Performer intake,
crane 272H cam,
Accel 8mm wires,
Edelbrock performer cat- back,
Homemade cold/forced air intake.
KYB GR-2 struts and shocks.
Grant GT leather wrap steering wheel.
Sony X-plod stereo.
Optima 6x9's

Future mods:
NOS,
Edelbrock TES headers, hi flo cat.
4th gen interior
6 point roll cage
3.42 gears
hurst billet/plus shifter
Edelbrock STB
Telstar rims

cars i've beaten:
95' Avenger, 88 Mustang GT, 70' Mustang , 97 Dodge Ram, 94 firebird formula, 92 Mustang GT, 94' 3000GT VR4, 97' Accord Rice Rocket (just barely), countless many ricers....

MEANGREEN

I just moved out to CT in June '00. I think the closest drag strip to me is either Englishtown, NJ (170 miles) or Epping, NH (170 miles), so between the two, I'd say I would rather head south than chance a trip up north. I've heard the track is pretty good in E-town, don't know about Epping, where is Cecil county in relation to let's say, I-95 in the middle of CT?



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Dan Young
1995 Z28/M6
Groton, CT

1985 Z28/A4
(Prospective purchase)

84305HO

Meangreen, try looking at Lebanon Valley
dragstrip between Albany and Pittsfield. Very nice track and
might be a little closer......

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Tom K.
84 Z-28 M5 305 L69 HO
pulleys,coil,3:73(stock)
Jet chip, fan switch,
Al dshaft,1.6 rockers,
LCAs and brackets,BFG DRs
14.20 @ 96.74 2.02 60ft

zupmanZ28

well Cecil County is in maryland. Just west of wilmington DE, so its probably not gonna be the quickest strip to get to

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86 Z28 red,
originally LG4,
new 350,
non comp Qjet,
T-5 five speed with new clutch,
stock 3.23 gears, Edelbrock Performer intake,
crane 272H cam,
Accel 8mm wires,
Edelbrock performer cat- back,
Homemade cold/forced air intake.
KYB GR-2 struts and shocks.
Grant GT leather wrap steering wheel.
Sony X-plod stereo.
Optima 6x9's

Future mods:
NOS,
Edelbrock TES headers, hi flo cat.
4th gen interior
6 point roll cage
3.42 gears
hurst billet/plus shifter
Edelbrock STB
Telstar rims

cars i've beaten:
95' Avenger, 88 Mustang GT, 70' Mustang , 97 Dodge Ram, 94 firebird formula, 92 Mustang GT, 94' 3000GT VR4, 97' Accord Rice Rocket (just barely), countless many ricers....

RacinLT1

Zup,im ALWAYS at cecil county,ill be there opening day,running either my 91 or my 97,or both. I just got my new flowmaster 3" cat back and Hooker shorty headers. the 91 will be ready for its assault on the 11's.
Dirk

[This message has been edited by RacinLT1 (edited January 04, 2001).]

RacinLT1

Zup,i live in newark,so cecil is only 20 mins away. we race friday's, saturday nights,and on wed. when they have em.
Meangrean,Cecil county is about 2 hours SOUTH of Etown.
Dirk

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1991 TA WS6 305/5 spd
Nitrous,hooker shorties,flowmaster 3" cat back,3.73's and a 160 shot of nitrous
DragStars 15x3.5 et fronts,15x10 rears with 275-50/15 BFG DR


1997 TA LT1
Draglites,15x3.5 sportsman pros
16x9 255-50/16 Comp TA's or Drag radials
Moroso CAI,no sway bar,dynomax non catback

TexasLT1

HEY Tifny, sorry about getting in late on this line, but what are you talking young guys like ME not knowing anything about their cars and only knowing how to drive? I'm 16, a junior in high school, and this summer, with SOME help from my dad, I swapped an LT1 into it, I even did the frame work, hydraulic mods, and fuel lines myself. oh, and this spring, when I get nirtous, who do you think is going to install it? ME! oh yeah, I also know how to drive

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-'92 RS with self-installed '95 LT1
-Heddman Headers
-TPIS throttle body airfoil

Kills
-'98 V6 Camaro
-'89 5.0 ****stang
-'97 Sebring
-'96 ****stang Cobra

Losses
-'99 Mustang GT
-'96 Mustang Cobra

TINFY Racing

thats cool man sounds like you have a sweet ride but how many other people your age do you know that can do that. that is what i am saying. there are lots of guys and girls out there that are young and know their car and how to work on it and drive it. i am one of those people but there are just as many kids out there that have a car that mom and dad bought for them that have everything done by someone else who tells them what they want to hear and they have no clue as to what to do under the hood other than take it to a shop and they think that because they drive a hot car all of a sudden that means they know how to drive. i am not claiming to be the best or know it all. but i am above average and i have a lot more to learn and i am willing to learn. i wasnt slamming everone that is young cause then i would be talking about myself and my friends who are 20 and 21 like me who have bad a$$ rides and can drive them and know how to work on them. sorry to confuse you and i am not trying to slam you but honestly look around you at the kids that have hot cars and are into performance and tell me how many of them can do what you can. and man if i ever had the chance i would like to see your car with the LT1 in it i am sure it looks good and performs equally well.TINFY

Justin 87 GTA

iTrader: (3)

Anybody that doesn't take the advantage of getting over 1 second off their qtr. time, for $500 is just plain stupid. And I don't want to even hear that NOS is cheating, because it's not. Or that it's gonna blow up the motor, because as long as you have a safety, you won't. If you think it's not "respectable", because it's simple to do, than take off all your other bolt-ons. I will be running a 150 shot this spring and will eb running low 12's easily. i'll be doing some other stuff to get me in the 11's on NOS and 12's on motor. I'm close to 12's already, some slicks and a few other things like tuning will get me there. If anybody wants to talk badly about an emissions legal GTA that looks like it's got 5 thousand miles on it, AND runs 11's, w/ a full interior and sterio, i'd have to laugh. It's funny how all the bigshots at the track don't see anything wrong w/ it, but all the young guys w/ slow cars that don't have it, happen not to like NOS. Think about it. -Justin
BTW I don't mean to come off arrogant, just trying to make a point and change a few minds.

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Justin 87 GTA--organizer: "NY2K" Gathering. Blk/Gld w/Superam, 355cid Trickflows, forged pistons 9.5:1. Auto 2,600 stall, 3.45 9 bolt disc, Best time & mph 13.567 @ 101.900 w/ a poor 60ft. Best mph: 104.3 *This car is 100% NYS emissions legal, w/ all emissions controls!* "If you want to have a fast car, hang out w/ those who do!"
http:// www.community.webtv.net/munks87/JustinsGTApage.com

TexasLT1

TinFy, hey, sorry about jumping like that, now that you mention it though I do know what you are talking about, how they think they're all that and stuff. yeah, I love my car now. I haven't dyno'd it yet but I think I'm pushing 300HP with TPIS airfoil and headers, and I think I'm running close to a 13.5 1/4 mile, some where around there, I've never really timed it, just seat of the pants, and compliments I've gotten ;-) The two crapstangs that beat me, the guys both commented on how quick it was, so I liked that. Thing is, the '99 gave me 4 lengths, beat me by 1/2 a length! needless to say I won't be racing him again for a while. anyway, once again, sorry about snapping, if you want I can probably get photos of the beast

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-'92 RS with self-installed '95 LT1
-Heddman Headers
-TPIS throttle body airfoil

Kills
-'98 V6 Camaro
-'89 5.0 ****stang
-'97 Sebring
-'96 ****stang Cobra

Losses
-'99 Mustang GT
-'96 Mustang Cobra

TINFY Racing

Hey its cool man. i am misunderstood all the time in person so its very possible that i didnt type something correctly or whatever. but hey man always speak up and say something. you know voice your opinion and ask the questions you want answered. my friends sometimes have problems doing that and they always end up asking me questions instead of the pro that they should have asked. sounds like the two stangs were pretty cool and respected your ride more people need to be like that. TINFY

TexasLT1

man I couldn't agree more, I'm acutally suprised that either of the guys said anything because both of them are both "oh my car is the sh*t" and all that, but they were both cool about it. yeah, they're cars are both pretty hot, the '97, the guy claims that the engine is completely stock, yet he has a full race trans or something like that

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-'92 RS with self-installed '95 LT1
-Heddman Headers
-TPIS throttle body airfoil

Kills
-'97 Mustang Cobra
-'98 V6 Camaro
-'89 5.0 ****stang
-'97 Sebring
-'96 ****stang Cobra

Losses
-'99 Mustang GT
-'96 Mustang Cobra
-'95 Z28 (good race)

NJ SPEEDER

i think it all depends what yer a fan of. i have no problem with power adders, it certainly makes things a lot easier. i just personally prefer to play with raw motors, especially ones that get bagged on a lot. that's why i play with my 305tbi, and i plan to build a destroked, 302cu in LT1 in the not too distant future.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers
http://www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299