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Old 04-17-2012, 06:37 PM
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Re: Racing in few weeks, what your guess at this datalog?

Yea slicks are almost ready for this weekend if the weather holds out and doesnt rain. I know the rims are crappy but im a cheep racer and its all I can afford at the moment. They are actaully alot lighter then my crager street rims....

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Well due to a very cold track today, and my poor launches, I only managed a 14.03 as a best time for the day. I like the slicks although it took me a few runs to get them to hook and not wobble too much. Been a LONG time since I drove a car with slicks.

Also I weighed the car: 3260lbs with me in it.

Heres a video of a pass, Id like to add out of 4 sucessful runs, I had times all from 14.03-14.22 so it was more consistant then I thought(but the weather was ok also). Learning how to launch on this car is difficult and will take some time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwJORj7Nfgg

Heres the best time slip(bad bad RT as I was more concerened about the launch)


And here's the best reaction time +.003 which was much better and this was also the slowest run, 14.22. (my car is number #427)
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Its almost friday....... Time for the first real test and tune and point race. Sure hope I can cut those +.0xx bulbs to make up for how un consistant the car may be.
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very interested in the results! i'm contemplating doing something similar on a larger scale
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a .190 split isnt to bad considering u werent trying to be consistent,

id be the wise *** at the track that dials a 15.0 and gets on the brakes on the top end

used to do that all the time and make guys chase me down the track and break out -, guys used to hate runing against me
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Well the points race got rained out.. Thats a shame.

I had a 14.05, 14.15 and a 14.12 time trial pass the night before. Somewhat consistant. 2.1 60ft times and 8.89-9.16 1/8 mile times, although I was still learning my launching proceedure. I definitly have the tire psi dialed in and the burnout proceedure. Just working my way up to launching at a higher rpm then making sure I launch at that every time. Its a learning process and I know this probly wont be the year for alot of won rounds but well see what happends I guess.

But I still working out the kinks in my build as every so often im finding things that need attention such as the wategate spring. So the car should speed up now as I was loosing 6-7psi when the car was shifting the otherday. With a shim under the WG spring it now holds that boost throughout the 2-3 shift. I have a heavery spring on its way.

Theres always next weekend for the point races.
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A little non points race tonight, hope the weather holds out so I can work on those Rt's.

Hoping for NO rain!!!
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definitely in for more results!
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im calling 13.5 or better if he has traction tonight
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Cant believe I was pulling off +.006-.019 rt times 3 times in a row and still lost because of the dammmm car not boosting right!
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A pic off motos web website. She looks pretty when it runs the way I want it too.

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Cars consistant=somewhat.
Driver knows how to cut a light=not last night.

Im still learning the car and how it reacts with temp, humid, altitude. The car ran good else them my tune was way TOO rich for any good times but it wasnt about tuning last night, It was about racing. At eliminations I was at the line the turbo was spooling and pushed me deeper into the beams=REDLIGHT. Its a shame but theres always next week. Gotta have a +.0xx light in sportsman to do good so I pushed her a little too hard. I like to cut +.040 and under bulbs to feel safe at the line, but im still adjusting to the launch of the car. In due time it will be more consistant.

Using a DA calculator for the eliminations pass 14.11@98.85mph=
Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
14.095 @ 98.964 MPH

Not much of a difference. But its nice to have the alt calc on hand. Too bad the I didnt use it as I forgot I had the dammm thing


Im perm car # 191 in the slips

1st TT


To defend myself from a sand bag, the car was much slower about 2 hrs before eliminations due to the heat of the day, but since I redlighted I just blew through the traps to see what it would do.


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Any ideas on what HP this car is making?? Car weighs 3260 with me in it. Some of those calculators range from 210-240 wheel Hp. Does that shound right?

I cant make it to dyno it ATM but may this week if I get time.

What woud you guys say the drivetrain loss would be..roughly 20%. 700R, 2800 stall,3.32 rear, but for the most part all stock suspention, trans, rear end.
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u should be around 250whp,which is really good since most stock v6's dyno right around 100whp give or take 10hp depending on the condition of the engine
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So how long before the little 3.1 says "no more"?
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So how long before the little 3.1 says "no more"?
Im not sure but were shes at right now is keeping me somewhat happy. Don't want to push the lil V6 too hard.
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So how long before the little 3.1 says "no more"?
his will last a long time even if he does turn up the boost, i ran higher boost on my 2.8 for over 125k miles i even tried to blow it up when i built the 3.1 and i couldnt do it.

what ended up killing the 2.8 was i ende dup running the engine for about 3 minutes with no oil in, my gf stoped by the shop while i was changing the oil, and i got distracted and started the engine without putting oil in it.

though we drove the car another 10k miles after that happened and it was still going strong,only reason i pulled it was cause the new 3.1 was done and ready to go in with the new turbo system

heres what the engine looked like after almost 300k miles total
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the rust is form being outside for 2 weeks witht he head off

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this motor also saw boost in the almost 30 psi range a couple of times
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Nice lil chunk of piston is missing on that last picture.
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Where?
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Re: Racing in few weeks, what your guess at this datalog?

200rwhp is my guess.
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dead center on the top edge, just a little notch
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dead center on the top edge, just a little notch
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Nice lil chunk of piston is missing on that last picture.
that notch comes in the piston like that it tells u which side of the piston goes twards the front of the block
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This proves that any idiot can make a fast car...LOL But in all realitly you can tell i've never had the pleasure to do a complete rebuild.

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Got one point last night and gave the 2nd round away because Im a Idiot at the finish line. Im not use to chasing cars down and having to peddle at the end in a turboed car. But the car was consistant as long as I didnt mess with the tuning, which once I took timing out, the car didnt show KR and it may of been slower but it was running good and constant.

Went 14.11, 14.20, 14.21, 14.26, in my runs/rounds through the day. Rts of .031, .059, .089, -.059. So in general the car did well, I just didnt win the finish line on the second round.

I got in the habit of using this huge ice pack and icing down the intake manifold till my intake is the same temp durring a hot day. I think that is a main part of the consistancy. I use Crew Chief Pro to help with the change of air and such. That helps greatly also exsp. for turboed cars.

Heres a pic off the site of a boosted launch. 60ft time of 2.02 in this pic. Not bad for stock suspention and a V6. Consistant as long as I launch at the EXACT Rpms each time(2800)

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Check this picture out. The one time I didnt wear a helment, I really should have, as I was just tuning and practicing launches in this pic. Look at those back slicks crying for mercy..

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Now into the mid 13's with the car. Won a round, lost a round last night in sportsman class. Went -.015 red in round 2. Cars much faster now. Heres a short video I tossed together, let me know what you guys think of it?

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man once u guys got about 120 ft out that guys stopped pulling on u looks liek u guys stayed dead even the whole way down well stayed the same distance behind his rear bumper the whole way once that turbo spooled up

with 3:73's and a some mor eboost on the launch i bet u would have nosed that car out at the stripe
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Yea it was a close match with him. He was a 12.9 sec car. To be honest though I wasent use to the turbo spooling up so fast at the line, so when I was launching I was taking it easy. 22-2500rpms. The 2500rpms was on that 13.7 sec pass It was a point race so I needed to at least win a round of 2.

I need to practice staging so that I can hold the rpms/boost and not fly though the lights. Its a hellof a ride now. Bug difference between 14.xx and 13.7x.
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btw nice mustang kill in the 2nd round u chased him down and got him at the stripe though

07 mustang with a 4.6?

we gota get u setup with some form of launch control/2 step and that thing will be a beast

msd 6al /w 2 step box
though i think some of the summit ignition systems have a built in 2 step for much less

or maybe one of these other guys will know of a 2step box that will work with the stock hei ignition
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Yea that was a 07 4.6L stang and to be honest I played with him at the end of the track to see if I could peddle the car next to him, since I already redlighted. Once I got near his rear end I just peddled the way down as my MPH were faster then his. Amazing how fast you can come up on someone. Im still not use to the 100mph or so speeds. Its freaking nice though. I would of made a solid 13.8x pass if I just stayed on it after I got next to him.

Yea I really do need some sort of launch control. But cant really afford a 200$ box.

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Yea that was a 07 4.6L stang and to be honest I played with him at the end of the track to see if I could peddle the car next to him, since I already redlighted. I would of made a solid 13.8 pass if I just stayed on it after I got next to him.

Yea I really do need some sort of launch control. But cant really afford a 200$ box.
im looking around to see if i can find u some cheap way of doing a 2 step ms2 sells a standalone rev limiter but its 120 bucks it would work with a 2step moudle selector but im sure i can find something cheaper then that for ya
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Cool let me know dave, im ready to get something. Those 60ft times were all over the place because of my launches.
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check this out
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mallory-HYFI...d9b361&vxp=mtr

i have to check the part number on summit racing but i belive that box has a 2step built into it
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that has both top end rpm limiter and staging limiter so if u can snag that box cheap grab it
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Thanks man, im going to snagthat thing if its still somewhat cheep tommorw.

How do you wire them up anyways. I never had one before.
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Thanks man, im going to snagthat thing if its still somewhat cheep tommorw.

How do you wire them up anyways. I never had one before.
not sur eon the mallory boxes but i assume it be about the same as an msd box its a couple of wires to hookup . that one comes with the directions too so u shouldnt have any issues

to use the launch feature u will have to wire up a mommentary switch or something to activate it im sure but thats not a big deal , u can prolly wire into the brake light switch.

id put a toggle on it as well so u can disable it for the street
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Ok the switch is so that the 1st step limit only is activated with the brake on then when you let off it runs up till the next rev limit(which I wouldnt really use...)

Oh yea I tossed this video together a bit ago, check it out. Let me know what ya think. Im going to try and get some really good videos for ya later this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9LaVw5-t4
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yeah thats how it works, just set the top end limit slight higher then whatever u have in ur tune. though i belive the factory ecm is a fuel cut not a spark cut.

if it is indeed a fuel cut id set the one in the tune higher then what u have on the ignition box

fuel cut on forced induction cars is a big nono
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Yea the factory ecm is fuel cut out.
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i hope u have that thing set to say 8,000 rpms or how ever high u can possibly put it, a good smack against a fuel cut limiter would more then likley melt a few pistons in that thing
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Yea I got it up to 8k for the cutout.
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Well im legal now. Got the driveshaft loop on!! I have to get my car speced when your in the points and 13.99 or under. Also welded those LCA to box them up and see if it slows the flex down on them.

I didnt get a chance to disconnect the fr. sway linkage but if I get out on the track friday, then i'll see if it helps the 60ft times any.
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I didnt get a chance to disconnect the fr. sway linkage but if I get out on the track friday, then i'll see if it helps the 60ft times any.
I've never bothered unhooking the front sway bar. Don't see how it makes much difference if the rear anti-roll is doing it's job, and your body isn't flexing (as in, you have subframe connectors).
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I've never bothered unhooking the front sway bar. Don't see how it makes much difference if the rear anti-roll is doing it's job, and your body isn't flexing (as in, you have subframe connectors).
Yup there on it.

I will say one thing this car is consistant. If I could just rip off more consistan RT's id be amazing in the points race. For example this weekend 13.65,13.67, 13.68 were the 3 times with the 100% alky injection on the car. But the Rts were different -.014 -.012 .112 I was scared to red light in eliminations so I have the stripe away with a horrible .112 RT. I ran a 13.66 on a 13.65 Dial in and lost! Lost the stripe by 0.002

Last week I ran all 13.50's I ran a 13.500 on a 13.50 Dial in. Dead on with a ZERO and lost because my Rt was a .090 to a .009 that the other guy had. Lost the stripe by .011. Im tired of giving away the win because of ME. The car is doing exactly what its suppose to.

Heres a pic of the lil V6 at work.
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He took the tree by .03 and I lost because of that and this guy sandbagged so bad. He ran dead on with a 5. Oh well I guess I learned a good lesson about him and what sorta racer he is. I don't have anything agianst racers like that but I like to know what kind of racer im against.

Heres the painfull video of him peddling it for a ways. He traped 105mph and so did I, but he went 12.03 and me 13.59. Oh well at least I got one round in luckly to get a point. I broke out obvously.

Followed by a fun time trial and new best ET 13.31@104mph. This was on friday night where I just want to have fun and go fast so I launched higher and went .-26 red but who cares, fridays are just for fun.

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if u ever have to line up against him again , dial something riduculous like a 13.80 -13.90 and make him chase u to just past the 1,000 ft stripe and brake hardddddddddd
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Thats what Im gonna do, forsure! Play the way he does.
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