Wheelstands don't win races
02-05-2012, 04:06 PM
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Wheelstands don't win races
Wheelstands are wasted energy and your investment in a race car being wasted as well.Car's set-ups need to be so the car is thrust-ed forward.While the car is going up,it is lost ET.Think of it this way.If the car was using the same amount of power to power the car down the track,how much faster would the car be??.Small wheelstands.well ok,but then it becomes diminishing returns on your investment on the car ability to a ET.
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02-05-2012, 05:15 PM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
WHAT?! They look so cool. Say it ain't so all mighty master of the obvious. What are you going to tell us next? Street tires aren't as good for traction as slicks.
Oh yea, check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClrB6V6uKEo
Oh yea, check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClrB6V6uKEo
02-05-2012, 05:36 PM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
All depends on the car and chassis design. Cars like ProStock, Comp Eliminator, Super Comp/Gas if they wheel stand, they lose. Basically a tube chassis car should not wheel stand at all if it's set up properly.
A nose heavy production car needs to wheel stand to help transfer weight to the back tires. Watch a SuperStock car launch. Very few of them don't wheel stand. The sky high wheel stands are bad because they'll unload the tires but 1-2 foot wheel stands can help plant the tires harder. If you don't have the power to keep building momentum when the car's full weight is on the back wheels then big wheel stands can slow you down when the engine starts to bog. If you can adjust your car to a 50/50 weight ratio then it doesn't need to wheel stand but will want to.
There's a difference between popping up the front wheels when you launch or pulling the front wheels up. All vehicles should be able to pop the wheels up but pulling them up takes torque, traction and suspension setup. It's just a lot easier if you don't have a nose heavy car but once you start removing that front weight, you find ways to keep the front end down.
I've run my quickest pass carrying the front wheels past the 60' mark. I don't have wheelie bars but do use suspension limiters on the front and tighten up the shocks to help keep the front end down during competition.
A nose heavy production car needs to wheel stand to help transfer weight to the back tires. Watch a SuperStock car launch. Very few of them don't wheel stand. The sky high wheel stands are bad because they'll unload the tires but 1-2 foot wheel stands can help plant the tires harder. If you don't have the power to keep building momentum when the car's full weight is on the back wheels then big wheel stands can slow you down when the engine starts to bog. If you can adjust your car to a 50/50 weight ratio then it doesn't need to wheel stand but will want to.
There's a difference between popping up the front wheels when you launch or pulling the front wheels up. All vehicles should be able to pop the wheels up but pulling them up takes torque, traction and suspension setup. It's just a lot easier if you don't have a nose heavy car but once you start removing that front weight, you find ways to keep the front end down.
I've run my quickest pass carrying the front wheels past the 60' mark. I don't have wheelie bars but do use suspension limiters on the front and tighten up the shocks to help keep the front end down during competition.
02-05-2012, 07:08 PM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
No one usually remembers who won the race a few years after but they will always talk about the guy who put it on the bumper!! Lol
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02-05-2012, 07:24 PM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
All depends on the car and chassis design. Cars like ProStock, Comp Eliminator, Super Comp/Gas if they wheel stand, they lose. Basically a tube chassis car should not wheel stand at all if it's set up properly.
A nose heavy production car needs to wheel stand to help transfer weight to the back tires. Watch a SuperStock car launch. Very few of them don't wheel stand. The sky high wheel stands are bad because they'll unload the tires but 1-2 foot wheel stands can help plant the tires harder. If you don't have the power to keep building momentum when the car's full weight is on the back wheels then big wheel stands can slow you down when the engine starts to bog. If you can adjust your car to a 50/50 weight ratio then it doesn't need to wheel stand but will want to.
There's a difference between popping up the front wheels when you launch or pulling the front wheels up. All vehicles should be able to pop the wheels up but pulling them up takes torque, traction and suspension setup. It's just a lot easier if you don't have a nose heavy car but once you start removing that front weight, you find ways to keep the front end down.
I've run my quickest pass carrying the front wheels past the 60' mark. I don't have wheelie bars but do use suspension limiters on the front and tighten up the shocks to help keep the front end down during competition.
A nose heavy production car needs to wheel stand to help transfer weight to the back tires. Watch a SuperStock car launch. Very few of them don't wheel stand. The sky high wheel stands are bad because they'll unload the tires but 1-2 foot wheel stands can help plant the tires harder. If you don't have the power to keep building momentum when the car's full weight is on the back wheels then big wheel stands can slow you down when the engine starts to bog. If you can adjust your car to a 50/50 weight ratio then it doesn't need to wheel stand but will want to.
There's a difference between popping up the front wheels when you launch or pulling the front wheels up. All vehicles should be able to pop the wheels up but pulling them up takes torque, traction and suspension setup. It's just a lot easier if you don't have a nose heavy car but once you start removing that front weight, you find ways to keep the front end down.
I've run my quickest pass carrying the front wheels past the 60' mark. I don't have wheelie bars but do use suspension limiters on the front and tighten up the shocks to help keep the front end down during competition.
02-05-2012, 08:02 PM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
But he's still pulling wheel stands right? There comes a point when going too high diminishes your forward momentum.
Like I said, front shock settings and travel limiters can help keep the front end from going sky high. With my shocks set on full loose, I can easily pull the wheels. That's only good for T&T runs where I want to just have fun and show off for the crowd who always love wheel stands. In competition, I crank up the shocks so they're harder to extend and I can keep the front end down.
Like I said, front shock settings and travel limiters can help keep the front end from going sky high. With my shocks set on full loose, I can easily pull the wheels. That's only good for T&T runs where I want to just have fun and show off for the crowd who always love wheel stands. In competition, I crank up the shocks so they're harder to extend and I can keep the front end down.
02-06-2012, 09:15 AM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
Yeah, but when you hang 'em high the crowd loves it!
Here's me with the suspension set on "crowd pleaser mode" -
...and the other camaro was launching w/o the big wheel stand, yet was almost a car back........lol.
Here's me with the suspension set on "crowd pleaser mode" -
...and the other camaro was launching w/o the big wheel stand, yet was almost a car back........lol.
02-06-2012, 11:52 AM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
I've knocked the bumper off the 'maro once, who knows may do it to the stang @ SGMP this month. - I take on an occasional "grudge" match w/o the wheenie bars; took too much power out of the camaro at the hit and it stood up.
02-06-2012, 12:16 PM
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Re: Wheelstands don't win races
what happened to "if it's not thirdgen related it gets pulled".....??? I've had little comments or you tube links deleted yet this guy runs all over spouting stuff that is bs. Reminds me of that Atilla guy who also couldn't prove he knew a damn thing
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