Fast 383

iTrader: (2)

I noticed some sites will have a tab at the top with a timeslip database. I think it's cool because it gives motivation to go faster and move up in ranks. It's also cool because it gives a brief idea of what made it go that fast.

Can we get one of those here?

AlkyIROC

You would have to ask JT the system admin.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

I brought this up awhile ago and i dont think it got anywhere

AlkyIROC

If JT wants to set up a TGO database, that's fine. I don't want a thread for timeslips. It will get too out of hand.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

no, the database thing is what we had in mind. like ls1tech and others

Fast 383

iTrader: (2)

Maybe someone can Pm him the link to this thread. I wasn't talking about a long running thread but a seperate link type thing.

Just an idea. It will also tone down everyones weekly updates. I'd also like to see where everyones stands. Surely you have some pulee around here Stephen.
(wink, wink)

AlkyIROC

I really don't care if there's a database or not but it would be a nice addition to the site. If you're interested in one, just PM JT yourself.

Although everyone has a claim to how fast their car ran, a way to add a scanned and readable copy of a timeslip should be included and mandatory to confirm the timeslip data entered into the database is legitimate. On another site, I have both in the timeslip database however the times don't exactly match the timeslip. My best ET run may not match my best 60', 1/8 mile times or 1/4 mile MPH. As long as they're close, I wouldn't question it. Just about everyone has some sort of access to scan a timeslip for submission as proof of ET.

On the other site, I've been bumped down to 25th place in the rankings from as high as 18th however I can say that I am the third fastest naturally aspirated vehicle in the listing. The fastest NA car is a dragster and the second is a Vette that hasn't updated his timeslip data in about 3 years. If I do manage to break into the 8's this year, it will only put me in 16th place.

The database should also be for third gens only. Someone may be a TGO member and have a third gen street car but races a dragster or some other type of car for a fast timeslip. That shouldn't be allowed.

xpndbl3

iTrader: (5)

that database would be thousands in the 13-18 second bracket and maybe 75 faster than that.

AlkyIROC

Just gives you more incentive to make a faster car.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

indeed, we all want to keep goin faster. Alot of sites require a timeslip for anything in the 10's or faster

AlkyIROC

That's fair enough. Don't need to fill the storage area with 5000+ 13-18 second timeslip pictures.

Fast 383

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, I have love for the modified stock cars but the database should be maybe 13.5 and faster or something. I wasn't thinking about proving with timeslips but thats not a problem, and actually a good idea.



Anyone interested post up and this will be the petition thread.

Stevo

iTrader: (45)

Great idea. A "fast list". Just make it 13 sec and faster or 14 and that will weed out thousands.

Since these cars are older and it's hard to keep track of what has actually been changed, i would just have N/A, Forced Induction, Auto, Stick, Back-half cars, stock suspension and so on. Keep it simple. Third gens only, no need for guys like me who don't even have a running third gen chime in! Most third gens are modifed in some way so you can't really have it like the corvette boards with stock tire/bolt on/dr and such. LS1tech has some good list also. Timeslip required if faster then say 12.00. Then just link the post # so it will have all information like Track, Conditions and other general information to not clutter up the main list.

AlkyIROC

You have a virtual garage etc if you want to have specifics about your car. The only info required for a database would be

Username
Year and model
Induction (lets others know if your best times were NA or with some type of power adder)
60'
1/8 mile and MPH (so those who only get to race 1/8 mile can compare)
1/4 mile and MPH

Other information is optional such as track location, estimated HP, race weight, transmission, engine and density altitude of the best run.

Boogie123

Yeah this place needs one pretty bad. But I think there needs to be one for the slower times too. If nothing else just make 2 threads. 13 and faster and 14 and above or something. My old car was a 305 tbi and I loved looking at other 305 times.

Edit:: and just make sure it's time's only so there's not 89 million useless replies.

AlkyIROC

That's why it will never be a thread. If JT wishes to add a timeslip database to TGO, it's up to him but there will never be a timeslip thread. I'll delete it as fast as it's created.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

yep it has to be a database like on ls1tech. Those sites use the same structure i believe and are owned or run through Internet Brands so adding one shouldnt be hard

ZONES89RS

iTrader: (2)

I say hell yea, but you would need sub sections:

V6

305

350

383&other stroker combo+406

BBC

LSx


Time...MPH.........Engine..trans....Weight...year...model


Would be pretty cool.

91interceptorZ

iTrader: (3)

There is a database online that you can search multiple models of cars, compare slips, see people's setup, etc. etc. It's http://www.dragtimes.com/ and it is extensive. It would take a lot of space to do one on TGO, although I would like one on here, it would have to be a seperate program in my opinion.

89RS_82Z

iTrader: (2)

can we add one yea, will they NO, i love this site but dang just some things that would make this alot nicer will never happen

i was going to PM someone about maybe doing a member support thing where you get a TGO Supporter status icon/status on your stats and maybe a TGO key chain for donating say $20 a month to this site, i would donate in a second, but i cant ever get a mod to reply to a PM so heck with it

AlkyIROC

Moderators don't run the site. They only moderate the forums. Sending a suggestion like that to me and I'll just delete it.

89RS_82Z

iTrader: (2)

well thats alot of help you could reply back and say something like you would have to ask JT about this (even though that wouldn't help much to ) o well it happens right?? i know running a forum is a PITA, i run one with only 60 members.....there should prob be a handfull of admins on here that would make things easier on JT.....just a thought

JT

iTrader: (1)

We will look into such a suggestion of a timeslip database. I received a PM about this subject. I don't believe it has been previously suggested, atleast not to my knowledge. If it has, it hasn't been a common request.

You can send me those suggestions, but understand we are a "tech-only" website we (staff) have some input as to what we think is best for the site. A lot of our staff has been around since the existence of this site.

As far as TGO Supporter, that was back when the site was originally owned by the founder and the site operated off a few sponsors and also relied on donations for things such as server upgrades. Since then, ThirdGen.org has become more "commercial". I can't say it will never happen in the future. One issue we have is that people seem to think that when they donate to the site, that rules, guidelines are optional.


No, I currently don't see the need and currently don't need it. ThirdGen.org has been one of the better managed communities within the network, and it's because of current Administration and Moderation. In many communities similar to TGO, there's generally only a few people that things are run through and oversea things.

Thanks.

89RS_82Z

iTrader: (2)

yea some people would abuse it, im sure this site is almost like a small business now, probably making money .......should of thought about that im to tired to think properly tonight it was a long day of fishin and catching nothing except for my bait

89RS_82Z

iTrader: (2)

yea i will say TGO is the best fourm out there for us and if not one of the best car forums

but nothing is perfect ...... and nothing will ever be

skinny z

An E.T. database would be an interesting addition.

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

People talk about different "category" listings etc.

Why not make it very similar to an already existing universal category. NHRA-like categories. Street legal/"Street legal"/Forced Induction/Power Adder(NOS)/DOT tires/Slicks/etc.

Don't complicate it too much & don't exclude the "slower" guys, like above 13-seconds. Not every member is interested in getting sub-10 second times, but is still interested in a quick 100% emissions legal street car, not just a "street" car.

I'd make an argument for comparing Autocross times, but the tracks are never the same, even in the exact same location. Now, of course, a local autocross club will reuse a course layout, but it is never the SAME & may be months of years between using it.

Deimos140

Probably a 12.9 or faster to get in the database. Cuz everybody and their brother is in the 13's. JT what part fo Iowa are you from?

Fast 383

iTrader: (2)

JT, thanks for taking the time to respond. I hope we can work something out. Your right, this is a very conservitive site with the BS at a very minimum to none. I guess we all owe that to the admin and moderators. But overall it's a quiet community.


Since I brought this idea up I will say one thing. There is no reason to have anything more than Username, E.T, MPH, and small details.

There doesn't need to be categorys and all that nonsense. Lets just see who is running what. Personally I don't see how cars running slower than say 14.0-14.5 should be involved but whatever. I just care about getting it together.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

One on ls1tech is just username, car, induction type, whp, 60 foot, 1/8 mile et/mph, and 1/4 mile et/mph and then a link for details which could be the vbgarage

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

I thought this was a ALL 3rd gens site? Not a "Your car has to be fast enough to be here site." If that is your outlook, go to a drag racing specific site, not a ALL gens are welcome site.

Just because not everybody isn't knocking on 9-second e.t.s, that doesn't make them any less important. You weren't fast the day your got your license (unless your daddy is rich enough to have started you off in a Jr. Dragster) but that doesn't make any slower cars less important. Show some respect for ALL your fellow 3rd gen lovers.

89RS_82Z

iTrader: (2)

Fast 383

iTrader: (2)

I completely understand how you could have took my statement offensivly. I sincerely aplogize.
The databases I have seen have no boundries, you just fill it out and submit. I'm sure thats the way it would and should be. However, I wasn't being that unresonable with 14.50 though. Some L98 cars run that stock.

mw66nova

iTrader: (13)

i'm in for it. i say let everyone be in...i can remember running the stock v6 and chiseling it down to a 16.78 when i was 17 and feeling so accomplished that i had to share it with someone.

AlkyIROC

As for the database, there doesn't need to be a cutoff to submit a time however as previously mentioned, something like 10.99 or so and faster should submit a scanned copy of a timeslip as proof.

The slower cars will always be deep in the listing but even if you improve your time by 0.1 seconds and move from #6045 to #5912, it's still a step upward in the listing even if you never plan on making it into the top 100. There will be a lot of slower cars with the same ET. Higher ranking should be given to the ones with the better MPH so if you can't improve your ET but do improve your MPH, you'll bump higher than someone else running the same ET but a slower speed.

ZONES89RS

iTrader: (2)

Should be a cut off too, nothing slower than 30.0 or 14.0, something like that.

Deimos140

I'm pretty sure that was back on camaro.com wasn't it?

mw66nova

iTrader: (13)

maybe? pretty sure it was here, lol

d00012

Any word on this?

Shagwell

Since it got bumped, I'll add my $.02.

No need for a "database", simply a sticky, that gets dumped yearly(so as not to be filled with countless innactive members times). If a sticky were opened it could be something like "2010 Fast List" which could be dropped out of being a sticky at the end of the year, then a new one made.

Times 13.50 or faster, all should be backed up via a posted time slip(within reason, as noted by Stephen).

This is the format we use on a some other forums I'm on, fairly simple and gives some vehicle particulars w/o getting to in-depth/big.


- Jp

d00012

That looks like it will be easier than creating a database.

AlkyIROC

And how is it going to be organized? Nobody wants to look through 15 pages of messages to see a timeslip. Nobody is going to look for their original post to edit it with new timeslip data.

If you want a timeslip database, contact JT like I originally mentioned.