27" or 28" front skinnies that can be street driven?
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27" or 28" front skinnies that can be street driven?
Looking to get rid of my 165/80R15 fronts and stepping up to 27.5" or 28" tall skinnies for the front. The car is street driven from time to time so that knocks out the moroso DS2 tires since they overheat. Anyone else running a similar tire like M/T or goodyear with no issues. Will be mounted on a 15x4 rim.
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well honestly if they lasted 1000 miles I wouldn't care, that would take me a long time to put that on my camaro even. I am just looking for an option to raise the chin spoiler height 1" or so to make getting on my trailer easier, without touching the springs that are on the camaro since the ride height/fender gap is what I want.
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I ran M/T ET fronts on my car for a couple of years and I did quite a bit of street driving with them. I didn't have any heat issues with them and at the time I had about a 20min drive on the highway to get to the track. They worked great for the track(very light) but not good for street driving, I got tired of them. They tend to pull the car when you hit any groove or uneven surface on the road. ET fronts aren't too dangerous for the street but you have to be careful with them on rough pavement so keep that in mind. I'm using radials like you have now, I'd like something a little taller but its hard to beat these radials as far as cost and handling go in comparison to the ET front tires.
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I never had issues with the drag tires on the street blowing out. If you are looking to raise your front 1-1.5 inches. Than the 27-28 inch tires are for you. I just went up one inch to 26 inch because I didn't want my car to look like it is 4wd. I could have cut a spring but than the benefit for having a high front end for thetariler is gone and the only result would be better roll out as explained above. I just made ramp extensions for my trailer and kept the low front end look.
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the car hits on the dovetail part as well, no way to really extend the ramps any higher, i'm already using an extra 5 feet of 2x12s stacked 3 high to give the ramps 6" less overall height and the nose still will dig in a little, so I would like a taller front, but I will have it on the street and I don't think there's any radials that are taller but skinny besides the 165R15s that I could mount on a 15x4
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Car: A Portly 85 Z28
Engine: 4.530 X 4.250 BBC
Transmission: under rated for this application
Axle/Gears: also under rated
Hey Steve, try these Mickey Thompsons sportmans fronts....heres a link and they are d.o.t.
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...portsmanFrontt
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...portsmanFrontt
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Could always back the truck onto ramps, when my friend sold his accord that is how we got it on and off the trailer. It still scraped but it was maby 2" off the ground.
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Car: 1987 Trans am
Engine: Cammin Ls1
Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's
Yea steve those MT sportsman fronts are what i am running on the street and have not had a problem with them yet. About 2000 miles and sometimes 100 at a time.
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Car: 1987 Trans am
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Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's
I am oly running the 4 ply. I am only running the 26" up front but i am going to switch to the 27 or 28. I figured that front of a basically gutted car isnt that heavy. I was also reading on ls1tech that people only use the 8 ply on cars over 3600 and i hope im no where near that.
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS, 1993 Camaro Z-28
Engine: what engine, LT1
Transmission: did it come with one, 4l60
Axle/Gears: They spin (most of the time)
i have the same problem when i put my car on a dovetail trailer. We usually extend the ramps with wood and then usually end up jacking the truck up the hitch, it works like a champ you should try it.
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i have jacked up the trailer and extended the ramps, i'll just end up getting the bigger tires and not worrying about it probably, or figuring out something else. I'd much prefer to just drive up the trailer like my chevelle does, but the nose on that thing is much much shorter and even though the car is lowered the bumper is still higher up.
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Car: A Portly 85 Z28
Engine: 4.530 X 4.250 BBC
Transmission: under rated for this application
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Man you guys all have it easy, I used to drive the tahoe up on 6" blocks, put a jack under the hitch and crank it up another 12" to just scrape it up on the beaver tail! I had some 67" inch aluminum ramps cut to help (the rear axle to the bumper of the trailer is 68"!) This outta help a ton plus adding the 28" fronts. We will see, we rented norwalk april 30th, this will be it`s first trip out this year.
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Engine: 6.3 L98
Transmission: TH350 4500 STALL
Axle/Gears: 3.73s
Man you guys all have it easy, I used to drive the tahoe up on 6" blocks, put a jack under the hitch and crank it up another 12" to just scrape it up on the beaver tail! I had some 67" inch aluminum ramps cut to help (the rear axle to the bumper of the trailer is 68"!) This outta help a ton plus adding the 28" fronts. We will see, we rented norwalk april 30th, this will be it`s first trip out this year.
xpndbl3..I ran 205/70/R15 BFG Touring TA tires on the the front of my car for about 4 years until switching to the VW tire.I ran em on my 15x3 Prostars with no problem,and they drive real nice. Believe there like 26.9",and there a good lookin tire too.Good luck.
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Just ended up ordering the M/T sportsman pro in 28x7.50 and had them mounted on the 15x4 fronts, sold off the 165R15 tires for $50 when I spent $90 on them mounted and balanced originally so I can't complain. As soon as I get the 9" assembled and under the car I can post up some pics weather permitting.
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Just ended up ordering the M/T sportsman pro in 28x7.50 and had them mounted on the 15x4 fronts, sold off the 165R15 tires for $50 when I spent $90 on them mounted and balanced originally so I can't complain. As soon as I get the 9" assembled and under the car I can post up some pics weather permitting.
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Yea he's a good guy to deal with. Now if moser would have included the shims I needed for the LT1 brakes I plan on running it would be even better, been waiting for 4 days since I received the rear end to get them. They are one state over, so there's no reason I'm still waiting. 99% of the 6 speed guys are running a 9", why the choice for the 12 bolt? The price is pretty much the same after one gear swap anyways, but these 35 spline axles and spool should be indestructible for as long as I own this rear end. Plus the aluminum center section makes the 9" lighter than the 12 bolt that moser sells as well.
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Yea he's a good guy to deal with. Now if moser would have included the shims I needed for the LT1 brakes I plan on running it would be even better, been waiting for 4 days since I received the rear end to get them. They are one state over, so there's no reason I'm still waiting. 99% of the 6 speed guys are running a 9", why the choice for the 12 bolt? The price is pretty much the same after one gear swap anyways, but these 35 spline axles and spool should be indestructible for as long as I own this rear end. Plus the aluminum center section makes the 9" lighter than the 12 bolt that moser sells as well.
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
I run 27" fronts and I know you were talking about the heads up class, but if you dablle in brackets, and your front end is as low as mine...lose the chin spoilers, I lost quite few rounds until I started putting tow and two together and realized it was ttripping the beams under the braking at the stripe....nothing like hitting the binders and running your fastest pass of the day for a break out run so long as you've got a upgraded radiator you'll never miss it..I know I have'nt.
Side note....would be kind fun to be the guy that wins his heads up class with both feet on the brakes though LOL!!!
Side note....would be kind fun to be the guy that wins his heads up class with both feet on the brakes though LOL!!!
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I run 27" fronts and I know you were talking about the heads up class, but if you dablle in brackets, and your front end is as low as mine...lose the chin spoilers, I lost quite few rounds until I started putting tow and two together and realized it was ttripping the beams under the braking at the stripe....nothing like hitting the binders and running your fastest pass of the day for a break out run so long as you've got a upgraded radiator you'll never miss it..I know I have'nt.
Side note....would be kind fun to be the guy that wins his heads up class with both feet on the brakes though LOL!!!
Side note....would be kind fun to be the guy that wins his heads up class with both feet on the brakes though LOL!!!
You got that Firechicken running yet? Sent you a PM!
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My tranny guy is "supposed" to have the tranny done Saturday...I've heard that for 3 weeks now, but it's getting done for parts cost plus I'm getting a BTE overflow tank thrown in from all the work I've helped go his way....so I cant really push him as if I were a paying customer LOL!! but I am going to push the issue since I have a motor waiting to get dropped in, just waiting for this tranny.
The motor issue is a funny one, I have my 427sbc shortblock in the basement, I was going to wait for AFR's new 227 elimintaor series to head to button it up since I want to retain 23* stuff as that is what I'm set-up for, but I'm owed "alot" of money right now and am getting itchey so I may just say the heck with it and get the cnc brodix m2 track 1 227's instead so I can get it going this year and tuned for next season...once the checks start rolling in from the corporate customers that owe me, I will decide then.
My brother in law has offered and I will be installing his 355 for this year, going to run a different bracket series offered locally that tours 3 tracks so I will only have to race once a month...my business is in a huge growth stage and things are very hectic right now so freetime is at a minimum. Granted the motor is slow running 11.80's in his 3300lb buick, so it'll only run 12.20's or so in my slug, but I've neveer had a problem working into the semis'/final rounds in slow cars, so I aint scared LOL!!! just gonna be bored going down the track.
BUT....as of today I talked with a buddy that has lots of money and no sense. He's building a very nice 496bbc, but does'nt want to put it in the 68 camaro he just bought for a stupid sum of money. I got wind of him looking for a donor car to put the motor in just to see what it'd do on the track....so another freind of mine told him to drop it in my car, and he called and we started talking things over. It does'nt sound like it would be ready by next months first race, and I would still have to order headers and some other things to get my cart rady for this kind of umph it should put out....actually is more than my small tires could probably handle even keeping it under geared and under convertered...but I'm not gonna turn down the chance to "just see" what a motor of this caliber would do in my car!!! I'm not putting alot of stock into this route, but he was talking alot of crap and made it sound like it was already in my car, so we'll see...but if I'm doing well this season I'm not about to swap motors just for play when money is on the line.
Hopefully by this time next month I will be behind the wheel again...wifes already giving me crap, so wtf LOL!!!
The motor issue is a funny one, I have my 427sbc shortblock in the basement, I was going to wait for AFR's new 227 elimintaor series to head to button it up since I want to retain 23* stuff as that is what I'm set-up for, but I'm owed "alot" of money right now and am getting itchey so I may just say the heck with it and get the cnc brodix m2 track 1 227's instead so I can get it going this year and tuned for next season...once the checks start rolling in from the corporate customers that owe me, I will decide then.
My brother in law has offered and I will be installing his 355 for this year, going to run a different bracket series offered locally that tours 3 tracks so I will only have to race once a month...my business is in a huge growth stage and things are very hectic right now so freetime is at a minimum. Granted the motor is slow running 11.80's in his 3300lb buick, so it'll only run 12.20's or so in my slug, but I've neveer had a problem working into the semis'/final rounds in slow cars, so I aint scared LOL!!! just gonna be bored going down the track.
BUT....as of today I talked with a buddy that has lots of money and no sense. He's building a very nice 496bbc, but does'nt want to put it in the 68 camaro he just bought for a stupid sum of money. I got wind of him looking for a donor car to put the motor in just to see what it'd do on the track....so another freind of mine told him to drop it in my car, and he called and we started talking things over. It does'nt sound like it would be ready by next months first race, and I would still have to order headers and some other things to get my cart rady for this kind of umph it should put out....actually is more than my small tires could probably handle even keeping it under geared and under convertered...but I'm not gonna turn down the chance to "just see" what a motor of this caliber would do in my car!!! I'm not putting alot of stock into this route, but he was talking alot of crap and made it sound like it was already in my car, so we'll see...but if I'm doing well this season I'm not about to swap motors just for play when money is on the line.
Hopefully by this time next month I will be behind the wheel again...wifes already giving me crap, so wtf LOL!!!
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