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Old 03-06-2007, 10:33 PM
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27" or 28" front skinnies that can be street driven?

Looking to get rid of my 165/80R15 fronts and stepping up to 27.5" or 28" tall skinnies for the front. The car is street driven from time to time so that knocks out the moroso DS2 tires since they overheat. Anyone else running a similar tire like M/T or goodyear with no issues. Will be mounted on a 15x4 rim.
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They don't have a high mileage life like a real street tire.
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well honestly if they lasted 1000 miles I wouldn't care, that would take me a long time to put that on my camaro even. I am just looking for an option to raise the chin spoiler height 1" or so to make getting on my trailer easier, without touching the springs that are on the camaro since the ride height/fender gap is what I want.
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I swapped for that reason too. That and it increases the rollout.
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so are your ET fronts street friendly? I've had two friends blow out DS2s from street driving and we're guessing they overheated ...?
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I ran M/T ET fronts on my car for a couple of years and I did quite a bit of street driving with them. I didn't have any heat issues with them and at the time I had about a 20min drive on the highway to get to the track. They worked great for the track(very light) but not good for street driving, I got tired of them. They tend to pull the car when you hit any groove or uneven surface on the road. ET fronts aren't too dangerous for the street but you have to be careful with them on rough pavement so keep that in mind. I'm using radials like you have now, I'd like something a little taller but its hard to beat these radials as far as cost and handling go in comparison to the ET front tires.
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I never had issues with the drag tires on the street blowing out. If you are looking to raise your front 1-1.5 inches. Than the 27-28 inch tires are for you. I just went up one inch to 26 inch because I didn't want my car to look like it is 4wd. I could have cut a spring but than the benefit for having a high front end for thetariler is gone and the only result would be better roll out as explained above. I just made ramp extensions for my trailer and kept the low front end look.
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the car hits on the dovetail part as well, no way to really extend the ramps any higher, i'm already using an extra 5 feet of 2x12s stacked 3 high to give the ramps 6" less overall height and the nose still will dig in a little, so I would like a taller front, but I will have it on the street and I don't think there's any radials that are taller but skinny besides the 165R15s that I could mount on a 15x4
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Hey Steve, try these Mickey Thompsons sportmans fronts....heres a link and they are d.o.t.

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...portsmanFrontt


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Could always back the truck onto ramps, when my friend sold his accord that is how we got it on and off the trailer. It still scraped but it was maby 2" off the ground.
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Hey Steve, try these Mickey Thompsons sportmans fronts....heres a link and they are d.o.t.
Scott, yea that looks like a good tire to choice. Only thing is it says 8ply is recommended for cars over 3000 pounds and it seems that it's only offered in 26" tires. I wonder if the 4 ply would work out alright, they come in 28" heights.
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Yea steve those MT sportsman fronts are what i am running on the street and have not had a problem with them yet. About 2000 miles and sometimes 100 at a time.
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Tim you running them in 4 ply or 8ply? The 28" tall tire isn't offered in 8ply only the 26" tire
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I am oly running the 4 ply. I am only running the 26" up front but i am going to switch to the 27 or 28. I figured that front of a basically gutted car isnt that heavy. I was also reading on ls1tech that people only use the 8 ply on cars over 3600 and i hope im no where near that.
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There is also a 195R15, in those VW tires. They are a bit taller and still dirt cheap.
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i have the same problem when i put my car on a dovetail trailer. We usually extend the ramps with wood and then usually end up jacking the truck up the hitch, it works like a champ you should try it.
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i have jacked up the trailer and extended the ramps, i'll just end up getting the bigger tires and not worrying about it probably, or figuring out something else. I'd much prefer to just drive up the trailer like my chevelle does, but the nose on that thing is much much shorter and even though the car is lowered the bumper is still higher up.
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Man you guys all have it easy, I used to drive the tahoe up on 6" blocks, put a jack under the hitch and crank it up another 12" to just scrape it up on the beaver tail! I had some 67" inch aluminum ramps cut to help (the rear axle to the bumper of the trailer is 68"!) This outta help a ton plus adding the 28" fronts. We will see, we rented norwalk april 30th, this will be it`s first trip out this year.
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Originally Posted by greezemonkey
Man you guys all have it easy, I used to drive the tahoe up on 6" blocks, put a jack under the hitch and crank it up another 12" to just scrape it up on the beaver tail! I had some 67" inch aluminum ramps cut to help (the rear axle to the bumper of the trailer is 68"!) This outta help a ton plus adding the 28" fronts. We will see, we rented norwalk april 30th, this will be it`s first trip out this year.
Feel your pain there Bro.I put a metal ramp under the trailer jack with a 2x4 then crank her as far as it goes,gets the dove tail just at the right angle.Still have to use some 2x6s on the ramps tho.Had to learn this the hard way tho.


xpndbl3..I ran 205/70/R15 BFG Touring TA tires on the the front of my car for about 4 years until switching to the VW tire.I ran em on my 15x3 Prostars with no problem,and they drive real nice. Believe there like 26.9",and there a good lookin tire too.Good luck.
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Just ended up ordering the M/T sportsman pro in 28x7.50 and had them mounted on the 15x4 fronts, sold off the 165R15 tires for $50 when I spent $90 on them mounted and balanced originally so I can't complain. As soon as I get the 9" assembled and under the car I can post up some pics weather permitting.
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Just ended up ordering the M/T sportsman pro in 28x7.50 and had them mounted on the 15x4 fronts, sold off the 165R15 tires for $50 when I spent $90 on them mounted and balanced originally so I can't complain. As soon as I get the 9" assembled and under the car I can post up some pics weather permitting.
Ya I see ya bought your moser 9" from Bob at Exotic Performance over on ls1tech.Nice guyto deal with.I got a Moser 12 Bolt from him for my wifes SS the week before you did.Its a very nice rear,was surpised it hasen't made a peep of noise from get go.Even after some dragstrip usuage,so far anyways her car is 6 speed lol.
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Yea he's a good guy to deal with. Now if moser would have included the shims I needed for the LT1 brakes I plan on running it would be even better, been waiting for 4 days since I received the rear end to get them. They are one state over, so there's no reason I'm still waiting. 99% of the 6 speed guys are running a 9", why the choice for the 12 bolt? The price is pretty much the same after one gear swap anyways, but these 35 spline axles and spool should be indestructible for as long as I own this rear end. Plus the aluminum center section makes the 9" lighter than the 12 bolt that moser sells as well.
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Yea he's a good guy to deal with. Now if moser would have included the shims I needed for the LT1 brakes I plan on running it would be even better, been waiting for 4 days since I received the rear end to get them. They are one state over, so there's no reason I'm still waiting. 99% of the 6 speed guys are running a 9", why the choice for the 12 bolt? The price is pretty much the same after one gear swap anyways, but these 35 spline axles and spool should be indestructible for as long as I own this rear end. Plus the aluminum center section makes the 9" lighter than the 12 bolt that moser sells as well.
Well I doubt this car will ever see anything north of 450rwhp Which is no problem for a 12 bolt.I have 433s,373 ring gears for since i have one in my 3rd gen.So i have parts,it is a bit lighter,takes less to move it than a 9.And I kept having a funny feeling about putting a ford rear in a camaro lol.But hey thats just me.Its a much better feeling in the burnout box with this rear than the 10 bolt .No doubt you gotcha a strong rear that will take all you can throw at it.What kinda times you planning on running? Good luck.
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not sure on times, all I know is I'll probably slow myself down a little this year by putting in a more streetable cam, since my solid lifter I think is slowly eating itself and I don't feel like dealing with it again so a roller is going in its place.
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I run 27" fronts and I know you were talking about the heads up class, but if you dablle in brackets, and your front end is as low as mine...lose the chin spoilers, I lost quite few rounds until I started putting tow and two together and realized it was ttripping the beams under the braking at the stripe....nothing like hitting the binders and running your fastest pass of the day for a break out run so long as you've got a upgraded radiator you'll never miss it..I know I have'nt.

Side note....would be kind fun to be the guy that wins his heads up class with both feet on the brakes though LOL!!!
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I run 27" fronts and I know you were talking about the heads up class, but if you dablle in brackets, and your front end is as low as mine...lose the chin spoilers, I lost quite few rounds until I started putting tow and two together and realized it was ttripping the beams under the braking at the stripe....nothing like hitting the binders and running your fastest pass of the day for a break out run so long as you've got a upgraded radiator you'll never miss it..I know I have'nt.

Side note....would be kind fun to be the guy that wins his heads up class with both feet on the brakes though LOL!!!
Ive always thought the spoiler might do that on the brakes hard.Mine is real low..
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My tranny guy is "supposed" to have the tranny done Saturday...I've heard that for 3 weeks now, but it's getting done for parts cost plus I'm getting a BTE overflow tank thrown in from all the work I've helped go his way....so I cant really push him as if I were a paying customer LOL!! but I am going to push the issue since I have a motor waiting to get dropped in, just waiting for this tranny.

The motor issue is a funny one, I have my 427sbc shortblock in the basement, I was going to wait for AFR's new 227 elimintaor series to head to button it up since I want to retain 23* stuff as that is what I'm set-up for, but I'm owed "alot" of money right now and am getting itchey so I may just say the heck with it and get the cnc brodix m2 track 1 227's instead so I can get it going this year and tuned for next season...once the checks start rolling in from the corporate customers that owe me, I will decide then.

My brother in law has offered and I will be installing his 355 for this year, going to run a different bracket series offered locally that tours 3 tracks so I will only have to race once a month...my business is in a huge growth stage and things are very hectic right now so freetime is at a minimum. Granted the motor is slow running 11.80's in his 3300lb buick, so it'll only run 12.20's or so in my slug, but I've neveer had a problem working into the semis'/final rounds in slow cars, so I aint scared LOL!!! just gonna be bored going down the track.

BUT....as of today I talked with a buddy that has lots of money and no sense. He's building a very nice 496bbc, but does'nt want to put it in the 68 camaro he just bought for a stupid sum of money. I got wind of him looking for a donor car to put the motor in just to see what it'd do on the track....so another freind of mine told him to drop it in my car, and he called and we started talking things over. It does'nt sound like it would be ready by next months first race, and I would still have to order headers and some other things to get my cart rady for this kind of umph it should put out....actually is more than my small tires could probably handle even keeping it under geared and under convertered...but I'm not gonna turn down the chance to "just see" what a motor of this caliber would do in my car!!! I'm not putting alot of stock into this route, but he was talking alot of crap and made it sound like it was already in my car, so we'll see...but if I'm doing well this season I'm not about to swap motors just for play when money is on the line.

Hopefully by this time next month I will be behind the wheel again...wifes already giving me crap, so wtf LOL!!!
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