mw66nova

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11:01 this morning, the 305 fired up for a 2nd first time! it sounds pretty healthy, but it's not the 350. it's quick too...quicker than it was on the first time around, but it's not the 350.

high/mid 12's, here i come!

1MeanZ

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When you goin to the track next? How does it idle? What work have you done to the 113 heads?

mw66nova

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the heads recieved a fresh 3angle valve job, a backcut on the valves, and just blended all the flash out of the bowls, along with polished the combustion chamber. nothing really crazy. it's got 981 springs in it too.

it idles really nice. pretty choppy but steady at 750-800rpms. it's got a really nice thump to it with the 10.4:1 c/r and big duration, but the 114lsa keeps it street friendly

took it out after resetting valve lash and from a 25mph roll, i clicked it into 1st and it blew the tires off. i lifted at 55mph after clicking into 2nd. i'm happy.

i hope to take it to the track once the "good" rearend is back in it. so either this saturday or next. i need to put my 650 back together for it as it's currently sporting my 750 double pumper.

Mcdamit

have fun with her... whats the cam specs on the motor?

mw66nova

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big, lol!

ssean92

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we will have to hook up for the track, i might have a chance now. lol, probably not. lol

mw66nova

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pretty set on trying to make it next friday or saturday, we'll see.

ssean92

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hope to have mine back togeather next week sometime

mw66nova

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cool deal man. i tried to call you earlier, got the answering machine on both phones.

ssean92

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yeah that was you. i thought so. i was still in bed, i usually get up at 230 or so.

KWIK84

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Good to hear the 305 is running again, you'll have to post some #'s, I will be taking mine to a little 1/8th mile track on the 2nd for some shakedown runs as a few things have changed since the last pass. Hopefully I can catch you!!!

slow86305

congrats

mw66nova

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i'm diggin the new sig KWIK!

ya'll will be the first to know about new numbers once i get them. it feels mighty strong though!

Trevor86TA

Good luck with it.

KWIK84

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Well I figure that you are the one wiht the 305 to catch on this board so.... It should be a fun chase this summer!

BT283

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What motor are you going to build for it know? or in the future? And are you ready to see how much you can spray a 305???

blyth18md

I got a happy meal for ya if you put some a$$ into my car.

mw66nova

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happy meal huh? normally i don't work for anything less than a double quarter pounder

i've obtained a new 350 block, this time with a 1pc rms and roller provisions...not sure what that will work out...i've been relatively un-impressed with the way hyd roller cams are designed...though i haven't done much research. though i'm thinking fully forged rotating assembly...probably something in the 383+ range.

i'll be spraying the little 305 after i get what i feel to be the most i could outta the combo n/a.

Crazy Firebird Kid

Wow, how big of a shot you thinking of running? Are 11's on a 305 in your future?

mw66nova

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i'm pretty sure i can get it deep into the 12's n/a...with more weight reduction and chassis work, maybe 11's...

hoping for 10's on spray...i know it's kinda optimistic, but the cam i have works REALLY well with nitrous

ssean92

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are u still wanting the block??????????? dont sound like you want a roller block. let me know

mw66nova

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oh yeah, i still want it, just don't know if i'll be using a hyd. roller cam in it.

ssean92

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cool i was hoping you wernt upset about it being a newer block, but then again the price is right. lol give me a call tonight or tomarrow and i can get you this block.

mw66nova

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sorry, didn't see this till i got off work. i'll give you a shout tomorrow once i'm back from McDonough.

i'm actually excited about it being a newer block cause it opens up all kinda of options, but i've not done much research on hyd. rollers so i don't know what's out there...but so far the small amount i've seen have been un-impressive: big lift, no duration, and wide lsa's.

i want something in the 250-260* duration @ .050, around .525 lift and a 110-112lsa, to keep it n2o happy. know of any hyd. rollers like that? cause a hyd. roller cam would make "break-in" a snap...since there is none!

no sean, don't worry, i'm ecstatic about the new block!!!

BT283

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just a suggestion, but you could go solid roller.

Crazy Firebird Kid

10's on a 305. Now that would be something to talk about

Mcdamit

you could always go get a custom grind.. its a little more expensive but then you get the pick the core materials, lobe width, you can go upgrade to ford lifters (have the cam ground to ford specs lobe width wise, then bore the lifter valley) except have it fit a chevy engine etc.

It would make the engine more reliable, and give you exactly what you want...
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There is a guy on this board that has done it

KWIK84

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Any times with the new setup yet Matt? Just wondering what I've got to run next weekend!!

mw66nova

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nothing yet. i'm going to see about borrowing a gtech to get an idea, though i'll be going to the track on friday evening...i'll tell ya right now though, it's strong. much stronger than the old 305 setup...and i've taken an additional 40+lbs. out of the car.

1bad406

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You going to take it to Macon? I ate at the Steak n Shake in Warner Robbins this weekend on my way back from US 19 Dragway in Albany.

mw66nova

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no, i'll be taking it to Silver Dollar Raceway in Reynolds. i'd like to get a full 1/4mile blast out of her. if you were stopping by warner robins, why didn't you let us know? there's at least 4 of us that would have liked to meet you!

1bad406

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I didnt know where Warner Robbins was until I saw the steak n shake sign on I-75 coming home. I'll be back down that way again in august when US 19 has another outlaw race. here's a pic from albany and the schedule of the next races. :: Outlaw Racing.com :: I won't be at the Macon race though, its not a points race.

mw66nova

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hey i don't blame ya! Macon is a scary track anyway.

i'll be out of town when your down in August...we'll catch up sometime. wouldn't be a bad idea for a bunch of us to get up to Commerce or something, which is a bit closer to you anyhow, isn't it?

1bad406

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yes, it took me a little over 5 hours (300 miles) to get to albany. I can make it to commerce in around 2 hours if the 285 bypass traffic isnt that bad. Albany was a small track, but it was consistant. Never been to Macon's track.

BT283

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Hey do yall boys live near Lawrenceville(i dont know how to spell it), its about 30-45 mins north of Atlanta, i think?

1bad406

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Lawerenceville is in Gwinnett county which is more East of Atlanta. I live up about 10 min from Tennessee in northwest, ga.

BT283

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oo okay, my buddy lives down there(did live here in NC), he came up and visited this weekend, and i was just being nosy

mw66nova

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lawerenceville is about 1.5 hours NNE of me. go up I75, hang a right on I85 and go almost to commerce.

when you coming down? lol!

urbanhunter44

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Glad to hear you've got the motor back up and running.

For what you're asking camshaft wise, custom is probably your best choice. Off the shelf there's an offering from comp that is close to what you want:

NX288HR - 236/248 @ .50 .520/.540 113.

Why do you want the lift so low? Aren't the heads machined to take more? Finding something with that duration and lift combo will take a bit a research, or just a custom piece.

The XR300HR is closer to what you want duration wise. 248/254 @ .50 .562/.580 110

BADDEST305

not trying to be a **** matt but i doubt that you will see 10's with a 305 unless you spray at least a 200 shot. i sprayed a 150 shot and got 11.47 as a best time when i had a 305 that ran 13.1 on motor. mid to low 11's i can believe in reach for you but 10's no...well maybe once w/enough spray
good luck to you i'd like to see it done.

BT283

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if you ran 13.1 on motor and 11.47 on 150 shot, and he expects mid to high 12s on motor, if it does this, then there is no reason he cant run 10.99 at least on a 150 shot. Plus you know if you run like a 11.10 or something you can always bump a super powershot up to a 175 shot!!

xpndbl3

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i don't see a 10 second pass out of his 305 on a 150 shot. mine ran 13.0 on motor and 11.70s on a 150 NX shot. He'd need to shoot a 250 shot I'd imagine to run a 11.0

BT283

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in my opinion its very possible, if it is really as stout as he says it is. But my 305 ran 10.0s in the 1/8th...so everyones 305s isnt the same. I say Matt spray that thing for every inch of it life at a buck 75 and prove them wrong. Im behind you that you can do it!

mw66nova

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hey now, i haven't said how much i plan to spray it yet...i wanna get the NX Hitman kit, which is adjustable from 100-200hp shot. though my fuel system needs a serious upgrade at the same time seeing as i'm still running a mechanical pump. i do not currently own any nitrous stuff.

baddest305, what cam did you run? mine is gonna like the spray ALOT. my old combo went 13.0's on motor and was my daily. i planned to drive it from GA to OH and race my buddies 74 cuda...and was hoping for 12.9/8's outta the old combo in the cooler OH air (this was in Oct. last year) but i killed the ring lands on #7 before i went, so i called it off. (too much timing, not enough octane. only hurt the piston, rest of the motor/block was untouched)

i'll be going out to the track friday, i'll let you guys know what she does on motor then. i'm hoping for mid 12's before i go home, after i tinker abunch. i've got two carbs (650 and 750) and two sets of drag radials (275/60/15 and 275/50/15's both m/t) so i'll have alot of things to try out.

i've also dropped about 80lbs. out of the car since i was at the track with the last 305.

did i mention it's still my daily?

urbanhunter44

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sounds like you're going to be seeing some really good times out of this, I hope you hit 10s!

BADDEST305

matt only specs i could find is that it was a compcams roller cam 278 duration 492 lift and it was a nitrous cam. i would love to see you get a 10 second pass with your 305. that was my goal to spray a 200-225 shot and get a 10 second pass but instead i gave up and bought my 434. good luck go and prove all the 305 haters out there just what you can do with a 305!!

heres alittle of the set up i used to have
305 roller motor polished & balanced crank, resized stock rods with arp rod bolts, hyperutectic pistons 9.5 to 1, high volume oil pump, double roller timing chain, compcams roller cam 278 duration 492 lift, blueprinted, dart 305 torquers heads w/1.94 1.50 valves,hardened push rods 1.52 roller rockers w/poly locks, guide plates, edelbrock rpm air gap machined for late style heads,demon 650 double pumper

mw66nova

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mine is a crane solid flat tappet 238*/248* @ .050 .480"/.500" lift 114lsa

vwdave

Isnt one of the main advantages to having a Hyd Roller cam is being able to have a pretty good amount of lift without as much duration as previously needed with a flat tappet? If you look at a roller cam, it isnt ground to a point like a flat tappet where the whole time its rotating its increasing or decreasing lift at a high rate. Giving you less time at your maximum desired lift. It looks more like a peanut. With a roller, it will get to your maximum lift point faster, stay there longer, and close faster. If you have heads that can take advantage of this, you can see how the gains would be substantial.