TunedPort 335

Tomorrow I'm goin to the track. It should be around 60 degrees and clear!!

Since my 14.1 @ 99.7mph, I've put in a built 700R4 that doesn't slip, a 3000 stall, SFC's, and adjusted my TPS sensor and will be mounting on some Hoosier Quick Time pro's. I'll let you guys know how I do

xpndbl3

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i'm thinking you'll get a 13 finally.

MdFormula350

good luck, 13's shouldnt be a problem now!!

five7kid

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Don't forget the helmet...

pre

Who did you get the stroker kit from?

Trevor86TA

Good luck at the track!

Why was the car dynoed in 2nd gear?

MdFormula350

a helmet that reminds me, i need to get one. my local track doesnt like my bicycle one.

TunedPort 335

five7kid - already got the snell 90 dirtbike helmet

pre - got it from Powerhouse www.enginekits.com

Trevor - it was dynoed in 2nd because in 3rd @ 4000rpms the tires were wrinkling (2.73's), the tires were only speed rated to like 92mph LOL. So I had to shut down and do the runs in 2nd.

Thanks guys, I have a good feeling about tonight

conlinj

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good luck

V6camaroman

good luck man lets see some deep 13 sec runs. i think with good traction from the slicks and the new trany a 13.5-13.6

TunedPort 335

Yesss!

into the 13'ss

RT... .692
60'... 1.743 (yea thats right! with 2.73 gears!)
330'... 5.327
1/8... 8.371
MPH... 80.09
1000... 11.068
1/4... 13.413
MPH... 96.4

Thing hooked ...heres another previous run

RT... .709
60'... 1.822
330... 5.437
1/8... 8.496
MPH... 79.77
1000... 11.183
1/4... 13.413
MPH... 98.7

Still stock heads, tuning, base, runners, plenum, injectors OH MY *** i love this car

Trevor86TA

Good job. Thats pretty impressive. Good 60' times and ET for the MPH. Notice how the MPH increase in the second run was all in the last 1/8? Did you shifter sooner/later?

What's next for this car?

MdFormula350

awesome, darn i need some good tires and a converter!

EvilCartman

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I hate you


lol j/k awesome times

TunedPort 335

Yeah, I held 2nd too long on that 96mph run... it shoulda been my 13.2 So I cant really blame anyone but myself

Next is probably interior, but performance wise... 3.42 gears and a custom chip! Hopefully that will get me low low 13's or possibly 12's. Still with stock untouched TPI, untouched 081 heads and a mild cam.

Here's a pic of the tires, I will never EVER go to the track again on street tires. These things work!

chikn305

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tunedport 335 what brand conveterare you using? I'm in the process of building a 305 and I'm trying to decide what converter to get

NYIROC

Great times. You must be almost crossing the finish line in 2 nd with those 2.73's. A better gear would make you much quicker.

Cool tires I need to get a set of slicks too. What size are they?

Regards,
G

Orr89RocZ

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Thats impressive. It gives me some hope for lower times in the 13's. Remember I ran 14.02 at 96 with 1.94 60' on street tires.
With that trap speed I think its possible for some 13.8's maybe better. With drag radials I hope to run 13.8's or better so I can hang with my friend and his SRT-4 neon.

TunedPort 335

They were 26x9.5x15 mounted on 15x8 Weld Pro Stars.

Thanks guys i appreciate it!!


Chickn305 - I honestly dont know who makes the converter, I bought the tranny & conv off my friend for real cheap and its worht it so far

nick418

wow tuned port! THose are really good #s man! Your 60ft times are just amazin esp with those gears:hail: Congrats man, and still build her up! If you do youll see 12s!

V6camaroman

very impressive man. keep faith in the little 305. makes me wanna mod mine even more now. keep the slicks and get some 3:42 gears and u should see a 13.0 do some chip tuning and get a big mouth intake high flow runners and port your plentum and i put u at a 12.6-12.7

TunedPort 335

We think alike


I want high 12s outta the motor the way it sits. Custom chip, 3.42's, bump up my timing...it should be close and atleast low low 13's.

Then after that I will play around with heads/intake/etc

V6camaroman

what does the new torque converter stall at? that played a big role in your 60 ft time.

TunedPort 335

Brake stall it goes to 2500 before the tires spin. It flashes to like 3200-3400 though...right in the fat part of my torque.

EvilCartman

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Did you take any video at the track? I wanna see that thing launch I need to try a different converter so badly Mine is just too dang tight, built for a blown 1000+ hp big block.

nick418

hey tuneport if you deff get heads and intake with a good launch would see high 12s i think

IROCThe5.7L

Did you just adjust it to 0.540VDC?

TunedPort 335

No need for heads and intake to get in the 12's. Custom chip, 3.42's, fine tuning, and more practice. I almost had a 13.2 but it was my fault that i held 2nd to long and hit the rev limiter.


IROCthe5.7L- Yep i adjusted right to .54vdc

TunedPort 335

No vid The tires dug in and the front stuck up in the air, i couldn't even see where I was going LOL

cgb

Nice runs...

Don't be too surprised if you add say 3.42 gears and run slower...

The huge benefit of the 2.73's right now is traction "Control"...that's another reason for the great 60ft times....

Even with slicks, expect alot more tire spin with a deeper gear.

Tobias05

haha...:hail:

V6camaroman

yea i agree with the 3:42's and a posi unit u might actually spin the slicks which will result in a slower 60 ft time but your overall time should be i think 2-3 tenths faster. play with a custom chit and other fine tuning and timing. u will see a high 12 for sure. also it wouldnt be a bad idea to try a set of 70/30 or 90/10 front drag struts. just to see if that compensated for the traction loss with putting the 3;42's in

Orr89RocZ

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Whats your race weight? I was always under the impression that low low 13s would take some good power. approx. 320hp on motor. You seem to be close to that.

TunedPort 335

I'm gonna guess in the area of 3500-3600. It's not a light car at all.

Automatic, Ttops, AC, full emissions, SFC's, etc. The only thing I have done to really lighten the car was the fiberglass hood (which shaves about 50lbs). I weigh 150lbs. So I am going to guess that its around 3600 with me in it.

I raced with 3/4 tank of fuel BTW.

conlinj

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congrad's

383backinblack

chris get the gears......your not gonna spin those tires, trust me

nick418

yeah tunedport get some gears

TunedPort 335

Bahh.... maybe my next goal will be 12's with the 2.73s. Mwhahaha


Figure I dropped 7 tenths at one outting at the track, hmm 4 tenths shouldn't take much

nick418

lol i would like to see that

cgb

The 3.42's aren't a bad idea...but you probably won't pick up as much as you think, EVEN with traction. Here's why...


305+stroker+ TPI = good bottom end and mid range torque. The TPI is still gonna give up the ghost in the upper revs.

With the 2.73 gears several things are happening to HELP you right now..

You're able to leave the line harder without spinning the tires as bad.

The higher gears allow your engine to stay in the RPM range it makes the most power at.

In other words, w/ lower ( say 3.42 ) gears, traction will become an issue.

Then you're going to be getting into the upper RPM range quicker, and you'll need to shift sooner....which is not where your combo obviously shines...


As for 90/10 shocks...

Not on the street...if you REALLY wanna get that nasty for a tenth here or there, get some worn out stock shocks. The whole idea is to just let the front end raise up easier w/ less resistance....worn out shocks fit the bill.


Traction is the biggest factor I've seen in almost every street driven car that goes to the track.

I've seen PLENTY of 400-500 HP "dyno monsters" that can't get out of their own way at the track...for various reasons...

Traction...converter / tranny issues, drive issues, etc etc.


Before you start spinning the wrenches again, try getting the most out of the current combo.

Drag radials?

Air bag in pass side rear spring...

disconnect the front swaybar ( helps w/ weight transfer )


And BTW...very nice times w/ that combo

383backinblack

he was riding on quicktime pro's.....traction wont be a problem unless he makes a ton more power than he makes now, my car wouldnt easily spin those tires, even without any of my suspension an with a ton more power.

the gears will help you get out of the hole quicker chris, you may give something away on the top end, but i think the advantage on the bottom will more than make up for it

cgb

My bad...I just went up and re read his posts...

Didn't notice the 60 ft times...


Yeah w/ those tires....the 3.42's MIGHT help.


But w/ those 60 ft times, how much faster is he going to realistically get out of the hole? lol...


And another thing to worry about, especially if you're getting good grip out of the hole....you still have a 10 bolt in the car? Those rear ends work great....until you really start to hook....maybe you'll have better luck though it does seem hit or miss......


Not being negative at all, I hope you can wring the thing out and hit the 12's, that would be sweet for the 305 based combo, but I'll bet you a slurpee, the 3.42's won't net you more than a tenth or 2 at best....


I definitely could be wrong.... it's not like it hasn't happened before....

Hell, I was gonna buy a new '03 Formula.... oops...

TunedPort 335

Thanks man

Well, I don't think the 3.42's will help me out too much off the line. 1.7 sixty foots are 1.7 sixty foots, whether they're with 3.42s or 2.73s.

Now where I DO think they will help me, is at the top of the track. With my 2.73's the car is shifting into 3rd about 1 second before the end of the 1/4. With 3.23's or 3.42s it should bring my RPMs up a bit, and bring me closer to my peak HP at the top of the 1/4.

SLP IROC-Z

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like i said chris, leave ur suspension alone and ur gears alone, obviously whatever u got now is working for ya and just TUNE it.
the hoosiers are bad *** tires, u wont spin those things, i dont caer if u have 4.56 gears in it.

a good example of how well this things hook is my friends 1992 thunderbird supercoupe. the cars pushin 450ft lbs to the wheels, and over 300rwhp. stock IRS suspension, 3.27 gears, 3900lb car, droppin the clutch at 2800-3000rpms 1.71 60ft consistantly.

he went from 2.1-2.3s on regular street tires to 1.7 60fts on the QTPs. he also dropped a lot of ET, 13.7-13.9s to 13.0.

mw66nova

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wow, imagine what my car will run when i get a REAL converter in it then...14.49@97.47mph!(what the car ran 2 months ago with the stock converter)

i put an 1800rpm stall converter in it and i hope that it will increase me 60' times over my stock converter (2.20 w/ 1000stall converter)

i also did some other things to the car, to include going from a true dual system back to a single system, but i am bring back the true duals with a different muffler combo and an H-pipe. and i put a better intake manifold on it

it had a torkerII and now it has a holley street dominator.

with the intake swap and going to a single exhaust system, i slowed down to a 14.53 from my previous 14.49

going back to a dual exhaust system and putting that higher stall converter in it should net me the 13.9's i am looking for...

DuronClocker

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Gives me some hope for my 305 getting into the 12's. My power will be much more up in the top end though. I'm getting rid of the TPI stuff and going with an LT1 intake along with LT1 heads, 24# injectors, tuned chip, Hedman 1 5/8", K&N, LCAs, 3200rpm stall or so, 3.42ish (somewhere between 3.23 and 3.73) gears, and a nice fat and juicy cam that may be too big for my 305 (222/232@.050", .479/.501, 114LSA). I want to see 12s out of this car with this motor before I swap it all over to a 350 block And by "350 block" I just mean the block...that doesn't mean it will be a 350

Maybe I'll try it out and see what my 2.73s can do first though (I'm sure I'll barely make it out of 2nd....but it'd put me at the very top of my powerband).

I'm worried about my rear-end though

EDIT: My car is going to have a lot less weight on it, especially in the front end. I've already removed the A/C (30lbs) and the rear seats (30lbs). The LT1 heads will cut almost another 50lbs, the intake should cut a few pounds over the TPI maybe, headers will save a few more, AIR removal a few more, front swaybar, etc. I may be getting a glass hood come spring too, I'm not sure yet. I've decided to push the debut for this project to the beginning of next season though. I don't have the funds/time to complete it this season. I'll be out of school in 3 1/2 months and bringing in a lot more money.

TunedPort 335

Bahhh, beat that thing!!

PS guys the reason my traps are so low is because the tranny still wont shift at WOT, i have to let out of it just a bit... I think I need to change my governer gears or something. Otherwise I'm sure my traps would be in the 99-100mph area

nick418

Tune Port are you always gonna keep it a 335?

TunedPort 335

Yep...until this engine gets tired, then maybe a 383 or something along those lines. I want to see what I can get out of this motor .. it should be fun.

Orr89RocZ

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Deff keep the 335 cuz thats so unique and different. Everyone has 305's, 350's, 383's, but your like the 3 person I have seen with a 335 and one that runs good!

When you do get rid of the 335 some day, do something like a 358 or 362 circle track/nascar motor. its different and makes good power. It doesnt have to make power at like 7000rpm, just use the cubes.