five7kid

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Barely.

I went into the weekend in 5th place, they take 6 from my class. Won first round. 2nd round they take a bye candidate out of my lane which put me next to the guy sitting at #3 - a 10.90 dial car. So what do I do? A fine -.005 light.

But, #6 & #7 went out first round. #8 goes some rounds but doesn't catch me. #9, who was 5 rounds behind me going into today, merely goes out and wins the class today - 7 rounds to win. So, that put me back to 6th.

But, I'm teched and headed for the "big one" next weekend!

I'll be running in the Sportsman class, 13.00-higher. None of this running against 10-sec cars - finally.

Now if I can just figure out how to stop all this bulbing...

onebinky

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congrats and good luck

kfoley

Congrats five7, it'll be nice not racing 10 second cars, I bet that gets old real quick. Anyways good luck next weekend!

five7kid

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The Bandimere class I'm representing is called "Run Tuff". Slicks, trans brake, open exhaust allowed, no delay box, 10.00-18.00 dial-in. Interesting enough, of the 6, I'm the only one who will be running in Sportsman - the other 5 are sub-13-sec cars, and will have to run in the Pro class.

Why Bandimere has this odd class is beyond me, since the rest of the world seems to stick with Super Pro, Pro, and Sportsman. But, for the Divisional, they don't have any choice.

Would also be nice if they indexed the class ETs for elevation. If that was the case, Sportsman would be 14-sec and higher.

SSC

Congrates on the finals and whats this? Moderator status I see

How Did the new induction setup do?

five7kid

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On Tech forum.

Quote:

How Did the new induction setup do?

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=199893

IHI

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Hey, congratulations!! Sounds like your ET finals are as goofy as ours, but alittle better. For our IHRA division 5 et finals each track gets to take 50 drivers, so you have to make at least 5 races to be eligible and have a good track record. The goofy thing, especially last year being my first year, once we go to finals there are only 2 classes, Super Mod, and Pro Mod. basically box/no box and that's it. So last year running Street/Sportsman against so-so drivers and then being pitted against great drivers was a real wake up call, 1st round ran a 8.88 on a 8.89 dail and lost cause a bad light, oh yeah, every 6th year we have to run 1/8th mi. since we have 1 1/8th mile track in our division, this year we're back to 1/4mi. thanks godness This year gonna put some boys on the trailer before anybody thinks about trying to make me pack it in. Well, should'nt get so cocky, cars ran great this year and gave me great results, but next week changing heads, intake, and just mounted different slicks today so get to relearn the car all over again and just hope the new combo is as consistent as the current. Good luck!!

five7kid

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It's not the Finals that are goofy, that's the norm. It's the classes Bandimere runs during the year. They also have a Friday class called Street ET, which is patterned off of Sportsman, except DOT tires required and no ET limits (everything else the same as Run Tuff). Bandimere takes 3 from that class, which is the one I qualified in last year to go to Topeka. Oh, one of the qualifiers in Street this year has a sub-13 car, so only two other Sportsman racers with me from Bandimere this year (would be 9 if they followed the normal breakdown).

For the Summit series (the sponsor of the divisional ET finals), each track has 40 spots. They pick how they want to fill them, I believe. Bandimere takes 36 from their summer ET classes, and 4 high school. The break-out is something like 12 Super Pro, 11 Pro, 6 Run Tuff, 3 Street ET, 3 Pro Bike and 1 Street Bike, plus HS.

The Divisionals include a track championship, where each round win by a track racer gets one point for that track. At Topeka last year, every one of Bandimere's season champs went out in the 1st round - leaving the bulk of the chore to us mere mortals (we didn't put up much of a show). We expect to do better since it's at our home track this year...

five7kid

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It's worse than I thought. Only two of us from Bandimere in Sportsman, if my calculations are correct (the other guy I thought was going was an alternate).

Since the Pro (7.00-14.00, non-electronics) and Sportsman (13.00-up, non-electronics) classes overlap a little, a couple of the 13-sec. Pro racers might go to Sportsman. But, since the Pro payout is better, and they qualified in Pro, I doubt they'd do it.

At Topeka last year, they ran two rounds of Super Pro & Pro eliminations before the Sportsman 1st round - there were about the same number of cars in each class for each round after that, don't you know.

Going to the day Tech, Test & Tune Thursday. More time trials & Jackpot races Friday & Saturday. Eliminations Sunday.

IHI

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I used to think last season and even the begining of this season the faster car had the advantage, but bout mid season I totally threw that thought out the window. After racing in Pro class this year, all you have to do to win is keep the car running the number and this late in the season that should be pretty easy. Pro class racers don't cut .00? lights ever pass, they make mistakes like the little guys and if you can stay .520/.020 and make sure your running the number your gonna go far. One thing I noticed last year in gambler races is I did better cause I knew my back was against the wall racing these seasoned veterans, but this year it always seems to be me going red or losing to a newbe for some off the wall reason. Go down there and kick all their ***.s, heck at teh NHRA track last weekend the guy that won divisonals and The Wally!! took it in a 17 sec Dawooe, think the real racers felt stupid or what Good luck and let us know what happens, and don't let me hear anything about going red!!

AlkyIROC

That's why I was glad the local track moved the ET break for Pro down to 10.50. I ran in Pro ET this year instead of having to race in SuperPro against delay box and throttle stop cars. The local Pro racers are still hard to beat but at least I have a better chance of going rounds against them. Just about all my losses this year were because of my own faults. red lights, breaking out etc.

I wish the local track would allow pro to run as quick as 7.50's without electronics but you won't see too many cars that run quicker than 9.99 without throttle stops and delay boxes. There are a few but if they want to be competative, they'll switch over to electronics eventually. I think once you hit the 9's, you're not a foot brake or transbrake racer any more anyway.

Like you said, the Pro ET racers can't cut .50x lights (.00x) every time. Even I've had killer lights during time trials but first round of eliminations I fall asleep with a .6xx light and sometimes win because my opponent was even more asleep!

IHI

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With the talk about lights, even S/P box cars are only as good as their personal R/T since they too have to react just as we do, guess they're only "advantage" is going off the very first yellow period. There's nothing I loved more in our big buck gamblers or open comp races than trailering the box boys. For some reason they'd all break out wonder if the wait at the line got to em, eh?!
I shoulda never brought up NOT being able to red light, even though I still can't at home track, ever since then I've had problems, might be the led thing too. I ordered my new top end for the motor, and was goin to try and get everything installed before next weekend, but we have the Big Buck races/points race $4000/2000 Sat. and $2000/$1500 Sunday paying back 8 spots to $200, plus nationals, and it seemed kinda dumb to change the entire motor before this happens. But all the stuff is just sitting right behind me in my office taunting me, and to think I coulda sided my new house with the money I got wrapped up. ****t, we're not supposed to think about that kinda stuff are we, sorry!!

five7kid

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Comparisons:

Class NHRA ET Bandimere ET Series
Super Pro 7.00-13.00 7.50-12.75
Electronics allowed

Pro 7.00-14.00 7.50-13.80
Non-electronics, tranny brake allowed

Sportsman 13.00-higher
Non-electronics

Street ET 10.00-higher
Non-electronics, mufflers, no tranny brakes

Run Tuff 10.00-18.00
Non-electronics, no tranny brakes

I had to look again at Run Tuff rules - no tranny brakes allowed. Isn't clear in what I've seen from Sportsman rules, but I don't think they're allowed there, either.

I cannot leave when I see the last yellow or I'll bulb (which has been my problem - not that I'm anticipating the last yellow). Last Friday, during on elimination round, I saw the last yellow and like I try to do all the time, gave an extra tick before I released - I thought to myself, "That's going to be a lousy light." It was an .028.

The delay box quantifies that extra tick.

IHI

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Try taking about 10psi or more of air outta your front tires to see if that helps slow down the R/T, I'm goin up to 50psi this TT and see if I can speed up my R/T to leave at the flick of yellow. Buddy has to run 55psi at the NHRA track up front and 25psi at IHRA to keep the leave the same for both tracks.

five7kid

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I've hesitated to do that because I keep thinking that will slow the car down. But, who cares, right? Nothing like a red light to slow down your racing...

As soon as I hit the "Submit Reply" button, I'm headed out for T&T. So, no time like the present to give it a try.

Cool, dry air - looking for good times today!