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Old 08-22-2002 | 10:31 AM
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With a perfect launch, what would I have ran? slip inside

Here is my last time slip from the track with my TPI converted LG4 305.


Here are some problems the car had at the time,
Prom was not functioning, car was running in limp home mode.
Previous runs that night were 14.7 @ 94mph with 2.0 60' times.
I advanced the timing and the messed with the TPS, then ran the time that is in the slip.

I am thinking that I could have easily broke into the 13's if I didn't spin like crazy off of the line.
Here is a pic of the motor at that time,
Old 08-22-2002 | 03:15 PM
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Kind of generic way to look at it is subtract whatever you think is a good launch from your 2.3 short time, whatever that difference is subtract that from your E.T., generic at best. My car has 1.88 shorties so I'd subtract about .45 off your E.T. and boom 13.71.
Old 08-22-2002 | 04:49 PM
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Ok,
well since my average 60' time is 2.0, I'd take off .3 and have a 13.8.
Old 08-22-2002 | 04:53 PM
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Re: With a perfect launch, what would I have ran? slip inside

Originally posted by Zepher
Here is a pic of the motor at that time
How's the LT1/LT4 coming?
Old 08-22-2002 | 05:09 PM
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Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
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the LT1/4 is coming along, just slowly gathering up the parts.
My rockers are Non-Self aligning, so I need to get some guideplates.
Old 08-22-2002 | 07:03 PM
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Thats a sweet looking dual cold air induction system u got there zepther. Where u get, whats the brand, how much?
But i'm skeptic if it would work with my 350 V8 on 87 GTA. But if it does, i think i find my future CAI mod!

And by the way, good times, you can get high 13s no problem, just looks like u need to work on your launch and u got it.
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Thats a sweet looking dual cold air induction system u got there zepther. Where u get, whats the brand, how much?
But i'm skeptic if it would work with my 350 V8 on 87 GTA. But if it does, i think i find my future CAI mod!

And by the way, good times, you can get high 13s no problem, just looks like u need to work on your launch and u got it.
Thanks,
that is an SLP dual cai, $299 from SLP and requires a SD setup, will not work with MAF.

Well, I should be in the 12's, maybe even the 11's with the LT4 setup.
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Thanks,
that is an SLP dual cai, $299 from SLP and requires a SD setup, will not work with MAF.

Well, I should be in the 12's, maybe even the 11's with the LT4 setup.
on or off the 200 shot?
Old 08-25-2002 | 04:10 PM
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on or off the 200 shot?
High 11's on the motor alone if I go with an A4 and a 3600 stall.
200 shot should put me in the 10's with an A4 and a stall.
I am basing my times on a few of my friends' cars that have a certain amount of power and stalls in their cars.

Actually times may be slower, but we won't know till I get to the track.
Old 08-25-2002 | 05:38 PM
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Thanks,
that is an SLP dual cai, $299 from SLP and requires a SD setup, will not work with MAF.

Well, I should be in the 12's, maybe even the 11's with the LT4 setup.
Damn that sucks, oh well, it still looks sweet on yours though. Good luck hitting those 11's, and with a 200 shot like u said, it better get it there.
Old 08-26-2002 | 07:42 PM
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hey zepher, not to burst your bubble or anything, but I wouldnt expect 11's on motor if I were you. granted it was my first time at the track with no launch, but I only ran a 13.7 @105 with my setup, which is pretty much what you are building right now.

heres what my slip looked like:


R/T --- .850
60' --- 2.251
330 --- 6.008
1/8 --- 9.037
MPH --- 82.09
1000 --- 11.598
1/4 --- 13.747
MPH --- 105.09

Granted, on that run I mistakenly set my shift light about 300 rpm low. I went out to make another run with it set right, but right as I got to the line they made me back out because I was wearing shorts. pissed me off, but it was still fun as hell. I'm going back at Thanksgiving with some drag radials and see if I can't get into the 12's, I know its got it in it, I just have to find it.

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Old 08-26-2002 | 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Zepher

High 11's on the motor alone if I go with an A4 and a 3600 stall.
200 shot should put me in the 10's with an A4 and a stall.
I am basing my times on a few of my friends' cars that have a certain amount of power and stalls in their cars.

Actually times may be slower, but we won't know till I get to the track.
it is very unlikely that you will be in the 11's with that setup. it is a great streetable setup, but 12's are more than likely what you will see out of it. as for with a 200 shot... now you're talkin'
Old 08-27-2002 | 12:12 AM
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Well, the way I look at it is my friend with a 96 T/A with 1.5 roller rockers and ONLY bolt ons on a stock LT1 with a yank 3600 stall and BFG Drag Radials running a 12.6, I should be faster than that.
Remember, we are talking A4 with a stall, not a manual tranny.
He is dynoing 292RWHP, which I am told is not right since the Dyno has problems with cars running high stall converters.

If I go 6 speed, then I can see a mid 12, but with a stall, high 11's shouldn't be impossible.
Old 08-27-2002 | 07:40 AM
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yeah that makes sense then, I keep forgetting about the advantages of higher stall converters. good luck to you with whatever you do, its going to be a beast!
Old 08-27-2002 | 12:18 PM
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Yeah, a Stall is a wonderfull thing.
But I am a manual tranny person, I want a T56 badly.
Old 08-27-2002 | 12:58 PM
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.6 tenths and 6 MPH,by timing advance and a TPS adjust??and a hurt prom?? I hate to rain on your parade but to me it looks like the timing tower screwed up.Something just doesnt make sense,.I sure wish you could have backed it up with a simalar run.If the tuning was that far off ,I would doubt it would have run 14.7's.You need to have quite a motor to still run 14's when the tune is so far off as you describe.Dont know,but ive gotten screwed timing slips before.
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.6 tenths and 6 MPH,by timing advance and a TPS adjust??and a hurt prom?? I hate to rain on your parade but to me it looks like the timing tower screwed up.Something just doesnt make sense,.I sure wish you could have backed it up with a simalar run.If the tuning was that far off ,I would doubt it would have run 14.7's.You need to have quite a motor to still run 14's when the tune is so far off as you describe.Dont know,but ive gotten screwed timing slips before.
That is a possibility, but the car felt faster on that last run.
I was about to stage up for my last run when the car in front of me broke down and they called it a night since it was about closing time. I was very dissapointed.

Have you seen the video of my car running with the bad chip?
http://www.transamws6.com/video/ZepherWS6.mpg
After the car warms up, it idles at 1K, any lower than that and it would backfire when you accelerate. Ran rich as a bitch too. I was getting 6-12mpg.

Here is a vid of me taking out a Chevelle SS on the highway,
http://www.transamws6.com/video/Zepher_vs_Chevelle.mpg


Oh, my stock LG4 with only an edelbrock carb and intake ran a 14.94 @ 91.67mph which I think is pretty decent.

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