Dante93GTZ

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I'm curious... I've been seeing a lot of fast times by some of these 3rdgen's, but not many are breaking the 100mph barrier.

I'm just wondering why that is. I guess I'm comparring these times/mph slips to my '93 Beretta GTZ, which I've run a best ET of 14.3 @ 98mph... AND THATS WITH A WORKED 4 CYLINDER DOHC!

I'm looking at buying an L98 Camaro and am just curious what they will do stock... 14's I'm assuming at a low 90mph...

hmmmmm

Synapsis

I'd say it's because of this: thirdgens are torque monsters. And torque lends itself more to ET than speed. Smaller engines make their horsepower in higher RPM range, at the sacrifice of torque, so they make higher trap speeds. Thirdgens are quick, your Beretta was fast.

anesthes

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Its a direct result to a low HP motor and a heavy car.. Thats life for us, anyway.. More torque + gearing = better E/T, but usually not a very fast MPH..

F-body's are great cars, but they're not a good drag racing car. Its impressive to do a fast 1/4
run. If I put my motor in a G-body it would prolly run 10s..

-- Joe

Synapsis

They're not?

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

No.. To heavy..

-- Joe

88 IROC BOB

I've trapped as high as 101 mph on the stock heads, cam and intake. I usually get between 98 and 100 mph on the way to 13.9-14.0.
So we're not all that slow

Bob

Camaro Cra-Z

I ran a 13.17 at 108.61 but I was spinning pretty bad off the line. That is pretty fast for a street car with airconditioning and a lot of stereo and street tires.

anesthes

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I ran yesterday with slicks, and I spun every gear down the track, ran 12.7 at 110mph.. If I got traction prolly woulda been closer to a 12.0, high 11 maybe.. I'm starting to consider buying another car for racing, cuz the f-body is just too heavy..

3600lbs with me in it. Thats a lot dude, and the fact that most of the weight is over the front wheels doesn't help..

-- Joe

AlkyIROC

110 mph should be very close to 12.0 or high 11's.

My first pass down the track Saturday night had some bad tire rubbing because I had adjusted the suspension. The car slowed down because of the friction. You should have seen the smoke. The tower thought I blew an engine. Some repairs with a hacksaw to the rear fenders fixed the tire rubbing problems.

Anyway, the first pass ran 12.022 at 110.53 and my opponent ran 12.089 at 110.10. It was only a test and tune pass but he nailed me on the tree and crossed the finish line with a margin of victory of .0443 seconds. There's 2 different cars running 110 mph.

The air was bad and my next pass only got a 11.819 at 113.26. Last pass for the night was 11.825 then the tranny started slipping so I called it a night. After a tear down on Sunday I found the tranny oil filter tube had fallen off, TH400. I missed a race but saved the tranny.

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

Hey Stephen,

I'm still using a T5.. hasn't blown up yet, and we solved the clutch slippage with a 6-padal ram bronse clutch..

It was like 92 degrees F out saturday, and the track was really slippery. With those combinations I think it kept me from reaching my 12.0 mark.. Some guy in the early morning lost every last bit of his motor all over the track, so I imagine that was the culprit of the slipperyness.

I'm starting to think the 9-bolt 3.27 needs to be tossed in favor of a 3.73. What are you running for a rear? A 10 bolt?

3175 with you in it huh?

-- Joe

AlkyIROC

I ran a 3.27 gear 9 bolt for a couple of years down to the low 12's/high 11's. I only switched to a beefed up 10 bolt with 4.10 gears just to get a better gear ratio with the taller tires I was using. I now use a 9" with 4.56 gears and a spool with 29x9 tires.

The weight is a little bit higher now. I've added a second battery and about 10 pounds more on the nose. Until I get across a scale again I can only say 3200+ pounds now.

A good clutch is important when you start increasing the HP. I've seen that on highway tractors. Customer gets his engine HP increased then finds his clutch doesn't hold or he breaks a tranny because the factory setup isn't designed for the higher hp/torque.

83procamaro

you guys just need cantalopes in your firesuites!!!!!

i ran 7.95 @ 126 in 1000' .....1.35 60' time...big wheelies

i tried to attach time slip but file was to big...oh well...if you wanna see it go here......

Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Profi...ProfileID=8883

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

My only worry at this point is the clutch + flywheel coming up through the floor.. I should order a tranny blanket soon..

-- Joe

Pony Killer

Thirdgens are good drag cars.... I fyour racing at 3600lbs your either not using it AS a drag car, or need to lay off the twinkies.

Second, The stock management/induction systems most people try and work around are not designed to make a lot of power at the big end. Tuned port is a handicap.

A lot of guys know what they are doing, and run fast with them. the majority of people halfstep, building them and end up with wildly missmatched combinations that never perform.. it's not the cars off.

Back to thirdgens being Nose heavy... nearly every Serious smallblocked thirdgen i've ever seen has yanked the tires if it was in the 11's... it's a beautiful thing.. they are the best wheeling chevy's out there now

83procamaro

i can back up his "best wheelie" comment!! Almost on the back bumper a couple of times! Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Profi...ProfileID=8883

Synapsis

83procamaro - That's an odd track you run on. It's only 1000' long?

83procamaro

Yes the track is 1000', we have a couple around here that are only 1000'. Ive been to tulsa and thundervalley a couple of times, they are both full quarter.

anesthes

iTrader: (12)

Well I guess I _COULD_ shave off about 400lbs or so like Stephen's and use it as a drag car, but I'd rather drive it on the street, and use a better body for a drag car.

Not that I'm knocking Stephen, or a few of my friends who are running 10's in their thirdgen drag-only cars. Infact, like I said before, I'm very impressed by people that can make these heavy pigs go that quick.

It makes more sense to build something closer to the 2700lbs range. I have friends weighing in around 2200lbs..

-- Joe

Pony Killer

I've raced at thundervalley in norman before