View Poll Results: Will Bill's GTA make it to Volo?
Thirdgen89GTA is a BSMFR and the curse wont' be broken!
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7.69%
Yes! The GTA rides again!
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53.85%
Tim is a hot beeeotch!
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Que the Music...
#1
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Que the Music...
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Soon......
Yes, I am attempting to break my tradition of NEVER having my GTA at Volo. Despite my perfect attendance my GTA has always been delinquent. No more!
#2
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From: Schererville , IN
Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA
Engine: all 225+ RWHP
Transmission: all OD
Axle/Gears: Always the good ones
Re: Que the Music...
I dont think u can do it Bill.
I dare you
I double dog dare you lol
I dare you
I double dog dare you lol
#4
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
#6
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
They were silver ZR1's, but they had a few gouges and needed lip repair. The metal putty is a dull gray and easily noticible. So I need a color to paint them. Could have gone with the traditional silver, or black. I even considered a Gold like the one on my stock GTA wheels, or a metallic blue like on the 30th anniversary TA.
But in the end I decided on white because they look damned sexy on 30th anniversary Camaros.
The wheel in the picture doesn't have a clear coat yet, but it will soon. 2 of the 4 are about ready for clear, the other two are still in the lip repair stages.
But in the end I decided on white because they look damned sexy on 30th anniversary Camaros.
The wheel in the picture doesn't have a clear coat yet, but it will soon. 2 of the 4 are about ready for clear, the other two are still in the lip repair stages.
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#8
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
#9
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Joined: Aug 2003
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From: Crest Hill, IL
Car: 1989 GTA Trans sold :(
Engine: 350 TPI L98 (B2L)
Transmission: TH700 R-4
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Re: Que the Music...
ahaha....take that **** outta that pic it's cramping the wheel's style! Just kidding Tim...
Bill as long as your not a cub fan...the curse can be broken and your ride will live once again and reign terror on the street and strip!....
Bill as long as your not a cub fan...the curse can be broken and your ride will live once again and reign terror on the street and strip!....
#10
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From: Bloomingdale, IL , United States
Car: 1997 Z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Que the Music...
Bill is a huge cub fan! Wanna know how i know? Cause if he is not i am going back to work and spraying those ***** PINK!
#15
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
Anyone know someone who sells decals for the centercaps? Possible a WS6 logo, or bird emblem to replace the soon to be blank white centercaps?
#16
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From: Elgin, IL
Car: '98 Trans Am
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Re: Que the Music...
#17
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From: Bloomingdale, IL , United States
Car: 1997 Z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
#20
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
You doubt the power of the Korean squirrels?! They are mighty squirrels indeed, all 128 of them! Though my cars CV joints have recently aqquired a taste for the song Clickity, Clack, Don't come back Jack.
#21
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From: Winfield, IL
Car: 91 RS
Engine: 350tpi comming soon!
Transmission: fixed the 700r4 again!
Re: Que the Music...
ohh good god.. not the Kia again!!!!!!! lol good luck bill... my plan was this summer on mine hopefully but had shoulder surgery about 2 months ago so that def slowed my timeframe down
#22
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
My car has been in limbo for close to 4 years now. Time for it to leave limbo.
#23
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From: Schererville , IN
Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA
Engine: all 225+ RWHP
Transmission: all OD
Axle/Gears: Always the good ones
Re: Que the Music...
It doesnt matter how long it took, it matters that the light is at the end of the tunnel.
Go Bill Go*to speedracer*
Go Bill Go*to speedracer*
#24
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
#26
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
drive first
Paint later.
But white it will be. Tossing the interior out tool. Keeping the seats for now and thats about it until I can drop black interior into it. I'd like to do a 4th gen interior swap, but I'm not even going to try and put a time table on that one.
Paint later.
But white it will be. Tossing the interior out tool. Keeping the seats for now and thats about it until I can drop black interior into it. I'd like to do a 4th gen interior swap, but I'm not even going to try and put a time table on that one.
#29
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
Starter starts
Fuel pump wires go hot for 5 or so seconds when the key is put to run. During cranking it goes hot as well.
Sparks are sparking. Runs on starter fluid for now.
Essentials to do:
Fuel lines are being a pita. The AN fittings don't want to go on the braided hoses well. Supposedly my dad's friend as a tool thats supposed to compress the hose and make it slide on easier. Ran out of daylight and time today.
Verify that fuel injectors are pulsing, but I need a test light for that, or just the fuel lines hooked up to see if it will stay running.
Driveshaft balanced + u-joints, trans mount, trans cable bracket for the shift cable. Also need trans cooling lines. Need to find them but they are in poor shape from what I remember.
Need the throttle cable bracket off a 94+ LT1
Pickup the radiator from Denny. Buy hoses and coolant. Bleed system. Install fans and wire them (wires already labeled)
Swap axel for LS1 axle, do brake lines for new axel. Pads and get rotors turned. During this swap the chromoloy panhard bar, and spohn LCA's are going on as well. Need to finish painting the wheels, have the tires mounted (already have tires).
Extras:
Wipers, wiper fluid pump, blower motor. vacuum line for HVAC controls. sand the hood down and prime it. Painting can wait for a bit but the hood looks HORRID.
Bonus: hog out the aluminum LT1 heads, install LT4 hot-cam, get ECM tuned. Vigi 9.5" converter and trans go shift kit.
Supercalafragilistic bonus: run 12's at MFBA track rental.
Last edited by Thirdgen89GTA; 04-04-2009 at 01:04 AM.
#31
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
w00t. Tomorrow she fires up! Well, at least I hope so.
Should have all of the nessesary parts either on the way, or already purchased.
Pray for me.
Should have all of the nessesary parts either on the way, or already purchased.
Pray for me.
#33
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
#34
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From: Orland Park, IL
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
Re: Que the Music...
I didn't even cut myself or get a scratch or swear once.
I think after doing them a few thousand times it gets easier.
I think after doing them a few thousand times it gets easier.
#35
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
So, we put the fuel lines on the car primed it, heard the pump go, and checked for leaks. no Leaks. Good right?
Pump made bad noise, like it was dying. Pressed the schrader valve, no fuel. Should be PLENTY. I'll say why later.
None
Nada.
So we yanked the rear (needed to, because of the 10bolt LS1 rear thats going in the car for the 4th gen ZR1 wheels).
Yanked the tank, half way out, the tank starts spilling fuel. Turns out I finally figured out why I alway smelled gas on left turns with a full tank. Previous dumbass owners had drilled two holes into the hatch area and used REALLY long screws, they punctured the tank! Easy fix. Will be replacing the fuel pump next time I'm up there. And the fuel filter, which is probably clogged like a ****.
Any ways, so we pull the tank because we think the pump is dying. While disconnecting the high pressure fuel line it started spraying like freaking CRAZY. So we figure my fuel filter is clogged like mad. Well replace that, and at least the tank won't leak, and I'll have a new pump too.
Pump made bad noise, like it was dying. Pressed the schrader valve, no fuel. Should be PLENTY. I'll say why later.
None
Nada.
So we yanked the rear (needed to, because of the 10bolt LS1 rear thats going in the car for the 4th gen ZR1 wheels).
Yanked the tank, half way out, the tank starts spilling fuel. Turns out I finally figured out why I alway smelled gas on left turns with a full tank. Previous dumbass owners had drilled two holes into the hatch area and used REALLY long screws, they punctured the tank! Easy fix. Will be replacing the fuel pump next time I'm up there. And the fuel filter, which is probably clogged like a ****.
Any ways, so we pull the tank because we think the pump is dying. While disconnecting the high pressure fuel line it started spraying like freaking CRAZY. So we figure my fuel filter is clogged like mad. Well replace that, and at least the tank won't leak, and I'll have a new pump too.
#36
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Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
Re: Que the Music...
haha oh man it's always something with these cars. finding hidden treasures like this sure makes you want to work on them more doesn't it?
#37
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
The good sides and down sides of a California car.
Good sides, no real rust. I have SOME surface rust setting in, but nothing a wire brush, and a quick shot of POR15 won't fix permanently. Every bolt on my car SUPER easy. Even the lower control arm bolts were easy. There was some rust on the ends of the bolt beyond the nut. I used a small wire brush and cleaned the threads up before i started loosening the nut on the control arm. Came loose like butter once i broke the initial seal.
Going back on the car, is the 10bolt rear from an LS1, brakes are pretty much the same as the 11.75" PBRs that came off the car so no proportioning difference really. Along with the new axle is a spherical rod end panhard bar from Nape, and spohn LCA's. I might at a later date replace the spherical rod ended bar with a bushed one if the harshness and squeaks annoy me. A torque arm should round that out nicely in a few months. Also have poly end-links for the sway bar, along with new poly sway bar bushings front and rear.
I'm pretty sure my car is going to make it to volo. And later Speed Inc's open house and the MFBA track rental.
The only real snag was the clogged fuel filter, and suspect pump, along with the brake bolt fitting that attaches to the flex line twisted so I'll need to cut and do that one. But thats not a big deal at all.
I really can't wait to here it fire up again. 3 years is along time to go without some V8.
#38
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
Just thought I'd add a pic of what the wheels looked like before paint, and after paint.
The nick on the white wheel is my fault. All that careful painting, and in the process of putting in my car to take it home I nick it on the trunk hunge.
The nick on the white wheel is my fault. All that careful painting, and in the process of putting in my car to take it home I nick it on the trunk hunge.
#41
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
#42
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From: Bloomingdale, IL , United States
Car: 1997 Z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
#43
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From: Plano IL
Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Re: Que the Music...
Im still debating pulling the LT1 out of my dads wrecked 94 wagon since hell will freeze over if he actually used it for something.
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...
Woohoo, yay.....
Click on the pic to here noise.
The injectors were shot. 7 of the 8, wouldn't even click. Ended up testing them by using two alligator clips on the injector terminals and giving them 12v and ground to see if they'd even click. 7 had no noise from the solenoid, and only 1 clicked, but was clogged.
But its all good now. So I can work on the other stuff like the charging system, fans, wipers, etc....
Should get the rear end in tomorrow, we had vehicle trouble so i couldn't bring the rear up.
Click on the pic to here noise.
The injectors were shot. 7 of the 8, wouldn't even click. Ended up testing them by using two alligator clips on the injector terminals and giving them 12v and ground to see if they'd even click. 7 had no noise from the solenoid, and only 1 clicked, but was clogged.
But its all good now. So I can work on the other stuff like the charging system, fans, wipers, etc....
Should get the rear end in tomorrow, we had vehicle trouble so i couldn't bring the rear up.
#48
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From: Elgin, IL
Car: 1997 Corvette
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.73 IRS
Re: Que the Music...
Woot! Getting closer!
Now the rear is in the car, torque arm/driveshaft bolted up, vacuum ports are capped off, engine wiring is connected to the point we don't have to hold anything together with our hands anymore. It starts up and idles every turn of the key!
Its just trans lines, trans mount, and radiator away from being at least being movable. Then it needs a brake line flared, rear caliper abutment brackets, and brakes bled for the ability to actually stop then.
A little exhaust work, and it can be driven!
Now the rear is in the car, torque arm/driveshaft bolted up, vacuum ports are capped off, engine wiring is connected to the point we don't have to hold anything together with our hands anymore. It starts up and idles every turn of the key!
Its just trans lines, trans mount, and radiator away from being at least being movable. Then it needs a brake line flared, rear caliper abutment brackets, and brakes bled for the ability to actually stop then.
A little exhaust work, and it can be driven!
#49
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Que the Music...