91formula-fbody

I live in Fresno cali and i was wondering if there is anyone in the area that can tune my setup for me? Ive had some local shops tune it before i decided too doo some more upgrades and they did a ok job but i think it could have been done better and they charged way too much.

UnderCover89TBI

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Fresno not too sure. Thier is a guy up this way in Sac area named Mark Roman.

Do a search in this forum and you'll see thread's with his # in it. I heard he is great at tuning TPI cars.

OUTATIME GTA

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Mark doesn't want to tune OBD1 cars anymore, haha.

You're in Fresno. Might want to ask Kevin, the SoCal mod.

UnderCover89TBI

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Oh really? Wow. Tim is needing to get his tuned soon

enragedyouth85

**** while your at it, tune my TBI please!

JesasaurusRex

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put a carb on that b*tch

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He said somewhat jokingly that mine is the last, but I'm sure money talks. However he knows that owning a 3rd gen and fat wallets don't usually correlate (most of the time) haa.

OBD1 is a lot more tedious, the equipment can be temperamental and requires a lot of time to tune and re-tune, compared to the LSX stuff that he prefers to work on.

Tuning a factory chip'd 3rd gen seems to be a dying artform and more folks move towards the EFI/LSX conversions, or "do-it-for-me" type systems like Travis' Holley unit, or of course a carb is fine for those fans as Jesse so eloquently put it.

At least you apparently have local shops that will touch it. I don't know of any up north that will, unless you have all the hardware/software ready to go for them.

UnderCover89TBI

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UnderCover89TBI

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Well I am going to get into tuning for my TBI. So I would deffinately do your's after I get it down.

Only throw a carb on it if you want to go slower! TBI's that is anyway.

Well it's easier to plug in and flash than burn a chip...oh its needs more here...burn another one...etc...I understand that.

That is why im going dynamicefi.com when I get to doing my own

enragedyouth85

Well I am game, I'm pretty sure my timing is off. Last year when I was getting it inspected in New Jersey, the guy changed the timing to help my exhaust fumes a bit. Ever got it changed back...

Plus I'm dumb when it comes to cars outside of easy stuff so I'm sure there's some things I could do to make it run better.

norcalz28

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When you find someone, let me know

vindeezl

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Guess I will be going at a snail's pace then soon!

You could throw that Dorito-chip powered computer in the trash, swap on a 4150 and an Eddy manifold from Goodguys for probably less than $200 and my guess is you'd pick up at least 20 ponies.

I'd take stock TPI over TBI and that says A LOT! TBI is junk, made for 1) economy or 2) towing, not going fast, and sorry attempts like crossfire were the bastard children of GM and died accordingly.

To the OP, I've had it with OBD1 ****, batch fire is like the special olympics of fuel injection

The LS1 PCM swap is becoming pretty popular but still pricey, not as pricey as Holley HP EFI or any other standalone though and was the direction that I was headed IF I was going to stay EFI. At least that way there are tuners out there and you can tune yourself without the learning curve.

Thing is "I wanna go fast" and I also pay rent so carb it is.

As a matter of fact even when I had my '165 "tuned" IMO it still never ran "perfect". All of my carbed cars were dialed!

So you and many others will find yourself amongst the increasing number of tune beggars out there now until you are shown the light or evolve.

UnderCover89TBI

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Browse the TBI boards. Thier are guys on there that swear TBI over Carb. The power difference in really negligable with a straight TBI for Carb swap. Carb may have a few more ponies but a lot less fuel efficiency. Biggest thing that hinder's TBI engines stock are the heads, and small peanut cam. TPI is a better induction system than TBI, but it is very limited too. I was not implying people with a carburetor are slow. I was implying a base L03 with a carb will not perform as well as it would with a properly functioning TBI. To run a carb on a tbi car, you have to change intake, carb. obviously, and distributor. wire the lockup differently, etc. just not that easy. And again I wasnt saying carbureted vehicles were slow. otherwise i'd have a nice holley efi setup going onto my tunnel ram 500. So your carb'd big block will kick ***!

enragedyouth85

Well UnderCover, I think your car is slow!!

On a more fun note, what kind of heads do you have on your car?

3rdBird

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I agree, if its TBI, carb it, but you'll still need to "tune" it. duh

From what we're seeing at the shop w/ Theo's IROC, Mark Roman may have created some problems, TBD.

UnderCover89TBI

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My car is slow that's what the license plate says!

Stock tbi heads with a my garage done light port and polish

vindeezl

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No need for me to browse those boards ever, but thanks!

People swear by a lot of things, heck some guys even like Mustangs so there goes that argument too

Carb has more ponies, yes.

Yes mileage will suffer, but I've said it before, if you're in it for gas mileage here guess what you bought the wrong car.

In the interests of horsepower changing a dist and crapola intake would take me a few hours max with beer time even.



"I wanna go fast"

dannyboyemt

yea i have to agree with Vindeezl, FI has its place and to me looks sick, but man to me theres nothing sexier than a fat carb sitting on a small/big block. I just love the retro look and even if i had the money to buy the LSX454 i would still carb it. Some carbs now adays look like modern art which is why i bought a Mighty Demon. Before for me it was all Holley, then i saw a Demon carb and i had to have it! Been happy since day 1, although having a nasty cammed V8 and still having nice street manners is amazing with modern day FI like the LS series stuff.

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Definitely a case of to each his own, especially when matters of the wallet are concerned. I like the looks and feel of TPI, so I'm willing to do what it takes to make it work on my GTA.

I'm sure the original poster by now is like "WTF I don't care about your TBI/TPI/Carbs/LSX setups, I just want my junk to run right!"

91formula-fbody

hmmmm....... so what would be my best bet, buy the stuf and try too do it myself? Or Is $500.00 too much for a dyno tune?

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$400-$500 is pretty typical for most tuning time. What a racket, haha.

What "upgrades" were done that require a new tune for you? What's the name of the shop that did your previous down there? Just for future reference as we always get folks asking about places to go.

UnderCover89TBI

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UnderCover89TBI

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if you do. you can buy a flash program. you replace your exisiting prom with a reflashable setup www.dynamicefi.com you'd want to use the p4 setup if I am not mistaken. this will allow you to program your computer in minutes and makes it easier to retune do to not having to erase and rewrite chips. If you want more info. go to the site or check out the DIY tuning board here on this site.