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Old 04-17-2010, 01:49 PM
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Finally getting a third gen Camaro!!

ITs a 91 Z/28 350/auto tranny. Its red with the grey cloth interior. Its has a non original engine and tranny in from another 91 Z/28 according to the owner. The engine is just sitting in the engine bay and needs to be all hooked back up. No wires have been cut. ITs going to need some work but for $1150 its worth it. I am going to pull the engine and tranny back out and paint everything and make it look nice. My plans include for now is to do a 5 speed manual tranny conversion as I hate automatics. The paint is ok but the clear coat is peeling. I will probably leave that alone until more finances come in.
I will be picking it up tomorrow in Oregon and am very excited.
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I will post some pics of it after I get it home.
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Re: Finally getting a third gen Camaro!!

If you're going to swap to a stick do it right and go T56, but if you're stock and under a budget (I was) T5 will do just fine, I blew up two of them!

Welcome and you will enjoy your new money pit!
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I would love to do a T56 swap, but I am on a tight budget so I will plan to do the T5. I will keep the auto for the time being. I just want to get the thing running first
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As promised, pics of my '91 Z/28...
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2727...80259338QTjtnj
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2269...80259338UTNocI
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Finally home!!! Yippee!!!!
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I forgot to mention that it also has the 4 wheel disc brakes. I also misunderstood the owner that the engine is not from another '91 Z/28, but from an '89 Corvette so I'll need to look up the horsepower rating for 1989.

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I added some more pics of my car...just pics of the tpi and engine. just look at the pics above in a previous post as they are on Webshots.
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Congrats, my son and I are also building A 91 Z28 350 AT car so if you need and pictures or info please let us know!

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Thanks Stewardorng. Do you have any pics of under your hood?? Closeups of the pollution stuff?
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Re: Finally getting a third gen Camaro!!

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Thanks Stewardorng. Do you have any pics of under your hood?? Closeups of the pollution stuff?
YES WE CAN DO THAT IF YOU PM ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND GIVE ME A LITTLE TIME I WILL SEND YOU SOME PICS AND AN ILLUSTRATION FROM THE PARTS CATALOG.
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Thanks Stewardorng. Do you have any pics of under your hood?? Closeups of the pollution stuff?

here is some pics
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Originally Posted by STEWARDORNG

here is some pics
here is some more!
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Stewardorng, thanks for the pics...BIG help
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STEWARDORNG, Do you know what they call this??

I know it goes down to the A.I.R. pump and I noticed yours has a cover over it and mine doesnt. I wonder if anyone has this with the cover. I'm just trying to make it look as much facotory as possible. Thanks.
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That is called the "diverter valves". It diverts air to the manifold at cold starts then diverts the air(from air pump)to the catalytic converter when engine is warm.
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mcsslover1987, super nice car man. congrats! You have a really nice clean interior and the body looks good too for those miles. And really those miles are not bad. Can't wait to see the project come along, let us know how she runs when it's all hooked up. Oh, clean engine bay too.
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just a heads up those heads dont look aluminum..
can you confirm if i am wrong?
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just a heads up those heads dont look aluminum..
can you confirm if i am wrong?
You're right, they arent aluminum.
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Iron heads mean it's definitely not from an 89 Vette... Which had aluminum heads that year (and forever afterwards). I hate finding out the previous owner has lied to me about something trivial... lol.
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Congrats you you got one hell of a deal i wish my paint looked that good.
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Congrats you you got one hell of a deal i wish my paint looked that good.
Well the paint might be ok, but the clear coat is peeling on top, the hood, the decklid, and the top of the doors where the sun beat on it. I am wondering if I can just sand the clear coat but not the paint and just put a couple coats of clear on it?
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Iron heads mean it's definitely not from an 89 Vette... Which had aluminum heads that year (and forever afterwards). I hate finding out the previous owner has lied to me about something trivial... lol.
Well the engine I think is from an 88, at least I'm pretty sure as it has the serpentine set up (unless it was from my 91 and they put it on). The guy I bought the car from was told it was from an 89. He just bought the car to make a few bucks and not really to restore it.
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Most likely its not a Vette motor. Maybe a short block out of a vette, but vettes got aluminum heads starting in 86 and only on the verts in 87 they all got aluminum heads. No big deal though the vette was still rated at 245hp, Just enjoy your new car
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I hope these are what you need.
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Thanks for the pics STEWARDORNG.
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Well i worked on my car today. Got the intake/tpi system all pulled off along with all the stuff in front of the engine so its about ready to be pulled. Just have to unbolt the tranny and the motor mounts. Also made an overhead wood frame to put my come-a-long on so I can puill my engine. I will try to get pics up tomorrow.
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Sounds like she is coming along, can't wait to see the pics.
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Sounds like she is coming along, can't wait to see the pics.
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Is there a way to tell by just looking at the waterpump that its a reverse flow pump? Any markings?


I put my tpi stuff in a box for safe keeping until I clean it up.

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Awesome car! I wish I got a deal like that, I paid $1,700 for mine, in MUCH worse shape, and it's a 305

But other than that, looks like our cars were twins from the factory, both had grey sport buckets, red hardtops, hatch shade, etc. Great looking car, mine will take thousands to get to where yours is!
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Mine, the clear coat is peeling off in places and the front air dam is scraped up some and has a crack. The interior smells musty. Someday it will get new seat covers, carpet and a headliner. I am getting more anxious to get the engine rebuilt and the parts I need to get it running. Just need $$.
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Terrific find man!! Congrats. Its lookinpretty bada$$ already. The pics help tell the story also. Keep em comin.
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Is there a way to tell by just looking at the waterpump that its a reverse flow pump? Any markings?

that is reverse flow if thats the original pulley mated to it.

all smooth faced water pump pullies were reverse, grooved or v belt was standard rotation
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yup yup and being it is a 91 you assume no one changed the engine it would be reverse flow for sure
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Hey Ryan, your car is looking good these days as well Hopefully one of these days I can check her out in person finally! Take care, hope all is well.

Mcsslover1987, looks good on your project. Always a good idea to ask for help with these guys Good group and always willing to lend a hand.
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that is reverse flow if thats the original pulley mated to it.

all smooth faced water pump pullies were reverse, grooved or v belt was standard rotation
Thanks TraviZ for the input.
Wills91RS, I've gotten some good info from several people here in my private messages and I'm sure I will be doing alot more searching and asking more questions once I start putting the engine back into my car Its going to get more fun for me as time goes on. I just wish I had some tpi knowledgeable people that lived close to Yreka.
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Hey bud, you asked about the cover piece that goes over the diverter valve... while at PNP today, I saw one and thought bout you, so I snatched it up for you. PM me and we will discuss shipping it up there for you.
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Hey bud, you asked about the cover piece that goes over the diverter valve... while at PNP today, I saw one and thought bout you, so I snatched it up for you. PM me and we will discuss shipping it up there for you.
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I went to the machine shop here in Yreka and the guy told me it'll be between $1500 and $2200 to rebuild my engine, depending on what needs to be done so I'm a little discouraged and not sure what I'm going to do next.
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Longblock that is about the going rate now I guess. I remember when I did mine it was like 950 haha 6 years ago..
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The EPA stepped in and had several charges against shops and the state charges depreciation fees on their equipment every year and its getting bad here in CA for small business to survive. $950 isnt a bad price but that was then and this is now.
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I know you dont have to tell me I work at a shop. Just a mechanic repair shop not an engine rebuilding shop. I also got a **** poor valve job that I am regretting now. I know that is the going rate 86firebirdta is getting his long block done now and it is falling into those #'s too. Sorry if I came across in a different way.
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Do u have any of the rebuild parts (pistons, rods, bearings), yet or are you just looking for someone to do the whole thing from start to finish. A GM shortblock brand new is only 1200 and u get the warranty from the factory.
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I know you dont have to tell me I work at a shop. Just a mechanic repair shop not an engine rebuilding shop. I also got a **** poor valve job that I am regretting now. I know that is the going rate 86firebirdta is getting his long block done now and it is falling into those #'s too. Sorry if I came across in a different way.
It makes me sad that the government is ruining everyones professions by implementing these rediculous fees and rules. I feel for you and others .

Copchaser, I was thinking of having the whole thing rebuilt, but that GM shortblock thing is looking good to me LOL In the mean time I'm just going to be buying parts for my car thar are needed to get it running so after I get my engine done I'll have the parts to put on it.
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Stewardong aka. Ryan works for chevy dealership contact him in here and maybe he can sell you one.

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Stewarding aka. Ryan works for chevydealership contact him inherent maybe he can sell you one

Sush that's supose to be a secret! I don't mind helping the norcal guys but I don't want people all over the US calling and asking wierd question all the time we get enough of that thanks to a waste of time web site our sales dept set up for us.

Norcal guys can email me at parts@folsomchevy.com put att:Ryan in the subject field.

They don't sell a long block for the TPI engines any longer it would be a standard engine.

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Sorry it was in the nor cal section and he is from Yreka which is about as nor cal as you can get. Sorry man.
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Ryan, I wont tell anyoone...sssshhhhh!!!
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Cool Thanks you know I will always try to help out!
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Ryan, I will send you an email soon


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