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Old 01-16-2007, 04:39 AM
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what the new year has brought me so far....

hey guys.. just checking in.. havent been on in a while. ive officially had my firebird for over a year now. (purchased on Dec 31. 2005)
i blew the damn exhaust header gasket and of course it was the passenger side. sucker was a metal gasket too. got the rear brakes done up last week. got my Stage 8 locking header bolts(flipping awesome bolts) on with a fresh header gasket. (only did the pass. side) and did my front brakes today. new rotors and pads.

as of now im trying to find a grommet or something, anything to get my amp wire into the cabin from the engine bay. working on getting some dynamat in the car too. im working on getting a door hinge kit, passenger side is starting to sag. been a productive start to 2007. hopefully this week ill have the engine out of the 91 and ready to take it to get the machine work done and get that knock out. ok... think that just about covers it haha

oh and the ads.... theyre not THAT bad.
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by the way...who knows what are the most common areas that cause rattling in thirdgens? or who knows where i can look to find something like that? and im talking about, you hit a pebble on the road and the spare tire rattles and the rear privacy shade is rattling or the dash is rattling orrrr........
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Sounds like a lot of progress Ron.

Here are some great "rattle" threads.
I've had a couple bookmarked for a long time.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...hlight=rattles

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...hlight=rattles

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...hlight=rattles

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OMG, you need a raise. Great stuff!

I need to kill some debt, pay for some kid stuff, sell a lot of stock, and reevaluate what I'm going to do with my car next. Wheels and exhaust are on the list.
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Well The new year has brought me a new custom S/S Spintech muffle (4" inlet and duel 3" outlet) and the rest of the S/S tubing to make my tail pipes.

Hummm what is next??? Front suspension & 6 piston front brakes? - Probably
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this very minute im installing some limo tint on the hatch glass. so i dont have as much of a fishbowl thing going on lol
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hmm..this year has brought me a hardtop
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I put some gas in my car so far this year
Only once???
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hmmm lets see. Last night my spark plug blew out of #6 cylinder. In the process of doing heads/cam If its not raining tomorrow, anybody wants to come through and help me disassemble my engine. I buy some beer.
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of course i thought it would be a great idea to detach the rear hatch to lay the tint down. of course it had to weigh sooo much more then a say a... camaro hatch because of the wing. i managed to almost finish... of course it begins to rain out of nowhere. and of course the only person helping me is my 120lb girlfriend to pick up my 130lb hatch back onto my car. and of course the hatch slips and tears a hole into the fresh tint i laid down
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Bummer on the tint man, bold of you to try to do it yourself.

My car is still sleeping, but I did open her eyes this past weekend for some new hood shocks.

I have a nice surprise waiting for her when she wakes up in the next month or so.
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hmmm lets see. Last night my spark plug blew out of #6 cylinder. In the process of doing heads/cam If its not raining tomorrow, anybody wants to come through and help me disassemble my engine. I buy some beer.
been there done that 2x already on a 4th gen never again

but if the engines out sure ill be there, or ill be there for moral support


ok ok ill help even though i said id never do it again cant bring my air tools though crapsmen compressor blew out at vins before we even started
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hmmm lets see. Last night my spark plug blew out of #6 cylinder. In the process of doing heads/cam If its not raining tomorrow, anybody wants to come through and help me disassemble my engine. I buy some beer.
How did the spark plug blow out? The only time I have seen that before is when the cylinder was full of fuel or coolant.
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i blew the damn exhaust header gasket and of course it was the passenger side. sucker was a metal gasket too. got the rear brakes done up last week. got my Stage 8 locking header bolts(flipping awesome bolts) on with a fresh header gasket. (only did the pass. side) .
Where can I find those header bolts(Kragen's?)? I'm putting Copper gaskets on my IROC in Feb. when I go on vacation.
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How did the spark plug blow out? The only time I have seen that before is when the cylinder was full of fuel or coolant.
the spark plug thread were stripped on the heads, so it wasn't a tight fit. damn aluminum engines
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Where can I find those header bolts(Kragen's?)? I'm putting Copper gaskets on my IROC in Feb. when I go on vacation.
you can find them at summit racing. i got em from a speed shop... about the same price shipped as what i paid at the shop. ~45-50 bucks. they are totally worth it
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the spark plug thread were stripped on the heads, so it wasn't a tight fit. damn aluminum engines
Sorry to hear that. That is a bit pita. So did you find that out before you canged out the heads or when you were putting it all back together?

Also a tip for most of the 3rd gen guys here.. if your using aluminum heads a small dab (I mean small) of antisease on the threads will prevent this from happening in the future. It is best to start one thread down so it does not get into the engine. Also the plugs do not need to be super tight.
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Sorry to hear that. That is a bit pita. So did you find that out before you canged out the heads or when you were putting it all back together?

Also a tip for most of the 3rd gen guys here.. if your using aluminum heads a small dab (I mean small) of antisease on the threads will prevent this from happening in the future. It is best to start one thread down so it does not get into the engine. Also the plugs do not need to be super tight.
well couple months after i've done my plugs and wires, i started hearing this ticking noise coming from the engine. From the sound of it, i thought i had an exaust leak from my manifolds, but when i popped my hood i saw my #6 wire dancing. SO right away i knew the plug wasn't tight. I took it off and inspected and found that the electrode broke off inside the engine. But the car was running great, so i just used one of my old spark plug and installed it. Whenever i tried to put torque on the spark plug it will just spin and spin, so i just did it hand tight. 4days ago i was driving home on the highway and it shot out that sparkplug. Now im doing heads/cam shooting for 460rwhp n/a
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What are you doing to it (heads & cam) wise to get 460 rwh? That is a pretty big number out of a 5.7. Usually you need to bump up the compression and such.
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it is a pretty big number but well capable and still be streetable. this setup netted 460rwhp. being streetable rely on how good the tune is. I have a very good tuner who acually tune my friends 02 z06 with the ms3 cam only and dynoed 428rwhp and he said its perfect for DD, but im still kinda weary of have a cam that big as a 100% daily driver so im picking something a little more tame and have more power under the curve. My car is 100% daily driver. realistically with my setup, i'l probably get around 440-450rwhp.

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460rwhp ???rwtq.
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So your going to use a .600 cam for a daily driver?

I am all about pretty extreme daily drivers and pretty crazy engine combo's. I mean my 67 RS/SS has a solid roller with .770 lift and 13 to 1 comp (race gas only!!) but I do not use it as a daily driver. Mostly as a weekend car around town and an occasional Friday commute to work car.

I have built several customer cars in the .550 lift range for daily drivers and they run great. But that is for people who know your going to be doing more maintence then a stocker. Plus I always tell them that they better realize that you loose quite a bit of low end torque and quite often if you have not changed the rear end gears you will not be able to use 6th on the freeway unless your going over 80.
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So your going to use a .600 cam for a daily driver?

I am all about pretty extreme daily drivers and pretty crazy engine combo's. I mean my 67 RS/SS has a solid roller with .770 lift and 13 to 1 comp (race gas only!!) but I do not use it as a daily driver. Mostly as a weekend car around town and an occasional Friday commute to work car.

I have built several customer cars in the .550 lift range for daily drivers and they run great. But that is for people who know your going to be doing more maintence then a stocker. Plus I always tell them that they better realize that you loose quite a bit of low end torque and quite often if you have not changed the rear end gears you will not be able to use 6th on the freeway unless your going over 80.
I totally understand what ur say, thats y im gonna keep the lift around 590ish range and getting a custom cam that will work well under the curve. THe valve springs are prc duals and are good to .650 lift and wont coild bind till .720lift so they pretty tough. Compression is gonna stay stock 10.4.1 but i might get some smaller head gasket to bump it up to 11.1. Gotta talk to the guys tomorrow about the setup. Acually i was gonna buy my moser 9in with 3.70 gears but this happened so the rear end is on hold for now. But eventually i'm getting taller gears. And also Smog wont be an issue for me
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it is a pretty big number but well capable and still be streetable. this setup netted 460rwhp. being streetable rely on how good the tune is. I have a very good tuner who acually tune my friends 02 z06 with the ms3 cam only and dynoed 428rwhp and he said its perfect for DD, but im still kinda weary of have a cam that big as a 100% daily driver so im picking something a little more tame and have more power under the curve. My car is 100% daily driver. realistically with my setup, i'l probably get around 440-450rwhp.
Hey buddy, I will need a good tuner soon for my 383 set up.
Can you give me the tuner's info?
Thanks,
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I think he goes to Newtech, or one of those other popular LS1 tuner shops in the bay area.

They won't have the equipment/knowledge to tune your 3rd gen.
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I think he goes to Newtech, or one of those other popular LS1 tuner shops in the bay area.

They won't have the equipment/knowledge to tune your 3rd gen.


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Sorry bud, no easy way out.
Time to visit the DIY Prom board or look into mail order tunes.
I posted the names to 2 popular ones last week.
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Thanks man...I already ordered a chip from Ed Wright, but I want to go above and beyond a 'generic' burn. I want to go somehwere, where they actually place the car on a dyno and get the readings, make adjustements, and then do a custom burn at the shop.
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Yep, I've been there. If there's an actual shop here in Nor-Cal that does it, I've never heard of them.
Nothing compares to tuning while the car is present.
You just have to know somebody or learn yourself.

At least you can dyno somewhere and send the AFR to Ed and have him make some adjustments after.
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[quote=PHAT89TA;3197802]. THe valve springs are prc duals and are good to .650 lift and wont coild bind till .720lift so they pretty tough.[quote]

Just be careful about valve springs. If the springs are good to that lift you might have too much spring pressure on the seat and they will beat up the lifters and cam. Just because they go to a certain lift does not mean they they will work for your application!!!

All that stuff need to be matched up just right.
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[QUOTE=Comp788;3198058][quote=PHAT89TA;3197802]. THe valve springs are prc duals and are good to .650 lift and wont coild bind till .720lift so they pretty tough.

Just be careful about valve springs. If the springs are good to that lift you might have too much spring pressure on the seat and they will beat up the lifters and cam. Just because they go to a certain lift does not mean they they will work for your application!!!

All that stuff need to be matched up just right.
Thats y im getting my custom cam from comp cams, which their use on their application. oh man i just can't wait. today i'll be ordering all the stuff. Mr iroc-z, sorry bro but he doesn't know much of thirdgens. I'll go ask my friends, to see if their are any good tuners that are good with the prom burns.
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Only once???
Yup, only once so far. It spends most of it's time parked inside my shop. Might drive it tomorrow to see how it runs after making some changes to the carb.
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Cool beans Big Ron, I have a few firewall grommets lying around from gauge installs that might be what your looking for.

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