Comp788

I went for a visit the other day to see my other Camaro at my friends body shop. I have had this car since high school and it has been a project ever since I purchased it.

It is an original 1967 RS SS 396 375HP camaro. It has the factory TH400 and the original 12 bolt posi. The car has been fully restored. Body was media blasted and painted inside and out. Everything that bolts on has been powder coated, Engine has been gone through (not stock) Factory GM aluminum heads, Factory GM Aluminum intake, 850 DP holley, MSD dist, Hooker Super Comp headers, factory deep groove pulleys, and all the original special BB parts. It also has an aluminum driveshaft, rebuilt 12 bolt with all strange internals, S/S brake lines, original rebulit front manuel disc brakes, quick ratio power steering, factory power windows, factory tach and gauges, factory fold down rear seat, factory tilt wheel and I am sure other stuff I am forgetting.

I did a ground up restoration on a 65 convert corvette for a friend who ownes a body shop for the paint job. I am sure that it is going to look sweet. It will be Black on Black. The original color was red on black

So let me know what you all think.

Comp788

Here are a few more pics. They are hoping to get it painted in the next few weeks.

Jtufts

i would blow up my 3rd gen any day for a 1st gen

its been my dream sense i was 8 to own one , i seen one ROARING down my local street when i was a kid and i have wanted one sense then . i will own one but it just takes time

jmiller

Nice!! I have a 67' Camaro that I restored in 1998. I made a driver out of it by installing a 700R4 trans and converted the ZZ4 crate motor to TPI in 1999. Mines black too!! Both my Camaros are black!!
Hers some pics:

porkyzilla

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john i think a new intake boot would go a long way in that engine bay cause that one is yucky

Cadillac

Green with envy...

John saved this thread with that pic of the 1st and 3rd together. Keeping it on topic and all.

I can't wait to see the finished product!

Comp788

John,

That is a nice looking camaro. I can't wait to get it back and start driving it. Mine is more of a toy then a daily driver.

I'll probably show it a bit when it is first done but I did not build it to be a show car. I drive all my stuf!!

jmiller

Ha Ha!!! I know it's ugly!!
One of these days I'll come up with something better looking, but it was the cheapest way out to get a 90 degree turn with a MAF.

To be honest I wouldn't get rid of either one of my camaros!!! I love them both equally!!

Comp788 - mine's a 20 footer. Some day I'll finish the interior and re-paint it. The paint is now 9 years old.

Comp788

So I was at the body shop this morning and they were putting my car in basecoat. They are base coating the car to see how it will look prior to painting it. If it passes inspection they will start taking the car completely apart so they can pain the shell, and all of the parts off the car. Then they will reassemble it and cut & polish it complete.

I'll get some pictures up tomorrow.

OUTATIME GTA

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What shop is this btw and approx. what would something that detailed cost?

87tpi

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A left, and possibly a right nut.

OUTATIME GTA

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haha, fo sho.

I'm guessing 5-7K+. ..?
He did say it was a friend though, so I'm guessing a good deal.

1989GTATransAm

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Lookin good. So does it have the original 396 or a 454?

Comp788

Can't really put a price on ot. We traded some work for the deal. I did a complete (and I mean complete) frame off restoration (labor only) on his 64 convertable Corvette. He paid for all of the parts and materials. The car is beautiful. It is a 327 350hp that is all original.

I would guess that if I was paying the amount would be somewhere in the $10 to $15k range. I know that they are over $2k in materials so far. Just putting the car in basecoat to see how it looks costs an extra $400.00

One of the deals is he does not want to tell people who painted the car. He does not want to get into restoration work. They mostly do upscale cars like audi, bmw, lexus, jaguar, mercedes, porsche, and some exotic work.

OUTATIME GTA

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Yes, I figured it was some sort of mystery deal.
I was just curious, far out of any range of $ that I would invest in my 3rd gen.

Comp788

Not a mystery just trade.

My guess is that since the car is so rare and a very nice car to start off with it should be worth somewhere in the 50 to 75k range done. I turned down 35k when it was sitting in the body shop from a customer who walked in and wanted to buy it on the spot. I have had the car since just after high school.

It is a factory 396/375hp, TH400 and 12 bolt with 4.10 gears. It has all of the original deep groove pullys, and never been in a bad accident. It was originally gold but is going to be black on black. It has all GM sheet metal on it and very little bondo. It also is a rust free CA car.

It also has the factory power windows, tilt wheel, tach & gauges, center console, fold down rear seat, delux interior, and some other rare nick nacks.

I purchased it in 1986 for $6000 and it was apart. I have been waiting the last four years to get it painted. The deals take some time.. But it is very much worth the wait!!!

vindeezl

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You did a full frame off on a '65 'Vette for a Paint Job? AND have been waiting four years?!?

For 1) I would have probably remodeled his newly restored 'Vette with my baseball bat and 2) he must have sold you one awesome paint job.

So I give kudos to your patience and the firstgen, it looks great even without paint

jmiller

Comp788,
Just a little heads-up on big block chevys running on sh*t unleaded low octane fuel. Put a 4 core radiator in the car and a set of headers with very thick flange plates if you plan on driving it.
I had a 68' Camaro SS 396 I restored in the early 80's with the 320 HP 396 built to original specs (9.5 to 1 comp). Couldn't drive it very far without it over heating and warping the flange plates on the headers. Even after yanking the radiator and adding a 4-core, after 1 year I had to throw the headers away and go back to cast iron. Same problem I had in my 75' Jeep Cherokee when I put a 454 in it. The radiator in my jeep was so short because of the front end design of the car, I finally had to drop the compression down to 8 to 1. I originally had an LS6 in it but pulled it out and put a stock 454 crate motor, still would run too hot. I had 2 chevy trucks with big blocks but the radiators were huge, about twice as long as my jeep!!! Doug Thourley chrome headers are excellent, I bought a set for my dually and never had a problem with them for 10 years. The flange plates were almost a 1/2" thick!!!
To solve the detenation problem I found Marvel Mystery oil works better than any fuel additive and is cheaper. I had a vacume gauge hooked up and the motor would start detenating at about 9 inches of vacume without a fuel additive.
Sorry about rambling, but when you get to be my age, sh*t happens.

Good luck with the car and hope you get it back from the painters soon!!

Comp788

Well I have only been actually waiting three years it has been sitting there for almost a year and not getting much work done to it. The past month two months they have really been working on it.

Sometimes when you have a "friend deal" you have to wait. I know that they are doing an extra nice job to make it look perfect!

He did not sell me on anything. We have been friends since before high school. It will be a jaw dropper when done.

Comp788

Well with 13 to 1 comp I am not going to be putting any pump gas in it. I have had my share of BBC's and sounds as if you had tuning issues. I have never had any overheating issues with any of my BBC cars with the right tune up.

Comp788

It is a 468. or a .060 over 454. It is a 1970 4 bolt main, steel crank with 7/16 rods and JE pistons

Comp788

So it has been a while sine posting but the new job change has had me really busy.

but the good news was I got a call from the body shop that has my 67 and they said I needed to come by. I went by Thursday evening and saw my car all painted. it still needs to be color sanded and polished. For most people the way the car is sitting now would be good to go. But since this is a trade deal and they know I am into cars they are going the extra mile. Actually it is probably more like two miles.

I'll get some more pictures up in the next few weeks. Time to do some assembly in my spare time.

vindeezl

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Glad he sold you the nice glossy paint job

No Smog FTW

Cadillac

Hey stranger!

2kflhr

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Thats nice. I sold an all original '68 396 SS/RS with 71k miles on the ticker about 4 yrs. ago that I'd owned for 16 yrs. It was the 325 hp w/ deluxe houndstooth, 4 way multiplex Am/Fm stereo, speed minder, rear window defroster, low fuel warning light disc brakes, tilt, A/C. It had all options excluding PW's and CC.

Comp788

The paint is ok. Better then a matt black job....

What does FTW mean?
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Howdy Mike! How are the headers treating you? like them?
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That sounds like a nice car that you sold. What did you get for it? Just curious.

vindeezl

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FTW= For The Win

TMoNeE

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looks great,

sidenote, its funny how if someone posts their 4thgen up, it gets locked with a quickness stating "If it isnt 3rdgen related it doesnt belong here"

but if its a bad *** 1st gen... no one cares lol

vindeezl

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OUTATIME GTA

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Some Mods / Admin are more lenient than others and don't see every post either.
However, as listed in the guidelines, if it's not 3rd gen related, the option is there to lock it, so inconsistency is bound to happen with multiple enforcers and so many threads.

Personally, as long as it's an F-body, I tend to just let the posts roll.
I really don't want to see pics of your new Nissan Maxima, etc.
We receive a bit more leniency on the regional boards and as long as the threads are not way off base, it's OK by me.

If you have questions about a decision, you can always PM your thoughts to me and Alex (adambros) and we'll discuss further.

TraviZ

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holding a discussion with adambros is like a little kid that plugs his ears and starts screaming "i cant hear you" repeatedly.

TMoNeE

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lol

ColinOpseth

I drove an original 402cid '72 Chevy 1/2 ton for almost 3 years in SoCal without the problems you are describing. I have pictures of burnouts so big the smoke is coming up between the bed and the cab. I never had any detonation problems whatsoever.

My Dad's factory RS/SS 396/325hp/M20 car has no overheating problems, either.

Mind you, both engines have hardened seats. I run 87 in the truck and 92 in the Camaro.

Nice car, bro. It should be worth about 75 grand when you're done.
Colin

Comp788

Colin,

It is a nice car and I have turned down an offer of over 55k since I got it back from the body shop.

I have driven it some and it does not overheat at all. Having the high compression motor does not help too much. But tuning it has a major impact on how the thing runs.

It run amazing and does not miss a beat.

Thanks for the advice. But so far so good.

Comp788

Well she came home from the body shop last weekend and I rolled her out to take a couple of pictures. Lots of assembly to do but here is a sneak peak...

Before I get a bashing here... Yes I know that the car has to be lowered. but I want to get it fully assembled before I worry about ride height.

5678TA

oooOOOooo pretty.........

Cadillac

Call me if you need any help.