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Old 03-10-2019 | 03:23 PM
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I got a set from a Pontiac dealer back inn 88 and they were NOT painted, they were as cast/machined and had to be painted.
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I saw a pic from your place over on the Maui build thread, and I asked what this was forgetting it want your thread. Anyway, what's it from?
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I have 1LE spindles stored in my garage and it has the same darkish-grey color as my original standard spindles from 1989. It has a look as if there was an oxidation process to put a protective surface coating on it. Everything is from the desert and there is no rust.
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I have 1LE spindles stored in my garage and it has the same darkish-grey color as my original standard spindles from 1989. It has a look as if there was an oxidation process to put a protective surface coating on it. Everything is from the desert and there is no rust.
yes, the color is very similar to the TPI plate on the throttle body
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I saw a pic from your place over on the Maui build thread, and I asked what this was forgetting it want your thread. Anyway, what's it from?
That's the front subframe for my 70 firebird shell that's just out the picture to the right.
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Here she is in her 10year bare metal state, just waiting for it's turn under the paint gun. 70 body but putting a lot of my 73 formula parts in it and I have piles of NOS parts to go on it. Was a bare shell when I bought it almost 20 years ago but it did have a nasty pearl paint job over the factory green paint

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Old 03-13-2019 | 11:01 AM
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That looks super straight, what you got pinned to the front for binders, they look a little bigger than stock....
Old 03-13-2019 | 12:49 PM
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I had 14" 2 piece Baer rotors and 06 ZO6 6 piston calipers at each corner but traded them off and I'm wanting to go another way. I think that's just a 13" Baer rotor on there now.

Found a picture of them, 06 ZO6 6 piston calipers for all 4 corners and 14" 2 piece rotors






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Old 03-13-2019 | 12:51 PM
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All those projects, yer gonna have to hire someone...
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Nothing like a NOS set. (I'm sure they'll work perfectly too ) lol


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The heads are being ported and the shortblock should be here soon. A little behind but life could be worse.
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Nothing like a NOS set. (I'm sure they'll work perfectly too )

​​​​​​​where did you find those ??
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​​​​​​​where did you find those ??
Was another random find along my parts hoard journey, craigslist, ebay or swap meet. Maybe I should write more down...
Old 03-19-2019 | 12:12 PM
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Another boring post but think I have all the stuff to do the small to large distributor swap without cutting the factory harness like SLP did.
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Old 03-19-2019 | 01:31 PM
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Another boring post but think I have all the stuff to do the small to large distributor swap without cutting the factory harness like SLP did.
Tony, I thought your 92? would already have the small Dist? are you using old harness?
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Yes, the 92s are small cap distributor, I need to use the large cap dist and I didn't want to cut the factory harness if I didn't need to.
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A little ZZ4 shortblock update
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A little ZZ4 shortblock update
I was not aware you could still get a ZZ4.....or is that NOS ??
If so, where did you find it ??
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It's just a current ZZ(?) shorblock.. There is still some stock around. Just ordered it from scummit.

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It's just a shorblock.. There is still some stock around. Just ordered it from scummit.
whats wrong with summit lol
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whats wrong with summit lol
I've always called them that. lol
This happened a long time ago..
Called them on a thurs or fri, they told me they had a super ram in stock and it would be at my place b4 next wednesday. It never showed up, I called and they said it was BO, I cancelled the order. Ordered from jugs, got intake in 2 days ported it an went racing on fri night. Then scummit sent me the super ram 4 weeks later and were pissed at me because I refused it..
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I've always called them that. lol
This happened a long time ago..
Called them on a thurs or fri, they told me they had a super ram in stock and it would be at my place b4 next wednesday. It never showed up, I called and they said it was BO, I cancelled the order. Ordered from jugs, got intake in 2 days ported it an went racing on fri night. Then scummit sent me the super ram 4 weeks later and were pissed at me because I refused it..
My Scummit story: I have always bought 8.5" ring gear spacers from Mr. Gasket 908A IIRC and they talked me into their brand and after 2 or 3 arrived that the special L/H thread ring gear bolts that were smashed i finally insisted on Mr. Gaskets
Old 03-27-2019 | 09:22 AM
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scummit n jugs..... sounds like a movie, could be a good one, too....
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I think there are inspection marks for the inspection marks.
Got it off the crate on a stand, installed and degreed the SLP cam

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Old 03-28-2019 | 09:41 AM
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Nice looking piece, casting is pretty straight... Score Tony !
Old 03-30-2019 | 10:30 AM
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That's exciting! I can't wait to see it in the car!
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Did a little port work and cleaned up the EGR a bit. Hope to be putting it on the longblock this week..


These rear calipers were black. Not perfectly clean but a lot better. Still have a bit more I'll clean up like the rusty bracket. Have new Delco rotors and NOS pads to install yet.
Also worked on the Dana axle spacer and axle endplay/preload stuff.

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Nice work, that intake looks great.
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Getting to good stuff, can't wait to see that engine come together.
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Mouth watering stuff!
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So I'm struggling with my oil pan choice.
Do I use the stock pan like the Firehawks or do I put on the NOS Hamburger oil pan setup I have? They were available through SLP on the SLP 50hp kit (optional) but haven't seen a Hawk with one.
1st world problems I know...
Old 04-15-2019 | 08:12 PM
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Ouch, tough choice! Well, if you put the Hamburger pan on, you'll have the only one!
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You've got it, use it.
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Yeah, tough problem you have.

But if I had the improved Hamburger pan, I'd run it.
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As much as I say use it, I might go stock personally. When I bought the blue T ram iroc from Dave he told me over and over about how the SLP hamburger pan that was on it was a nightmare to seal from day one, and that it never really fit right from the get go! and when I got the car, it was leaking and loose, and I tightened it up and replaced all of the hardware one at a time and got it sealed up but it still loosened up again later
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Nobody, and I mean NOBODY cooks a hamburger in a pan. Farkin' heathens.
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Originally Posted by TTOP350
So I'm struggling with my oil pan choice.
Do I use the stock pan like the Firehawks or do I put on the NOS Hamburger oil pan setup I have? They were available through SLP on the SLP 50hp kit (optional) but haven't seen a Hawk with one.
1st world problems I know...
Show car: Use correct parts for whatever it is that you're cloning.
Driver car: Use what works best.
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As much as I say use it, I might go stock personally. When I bought the blue T ram iroc from Dave he told me over and over about how the SLP hamburger pan that was on it was a nightmare to seal from day one, and that it never really fit right from the get go! and when I got the car, it was leaking and loose, and I tightened it up and replaced all of the hardware one at a time and got it sealed up but it still loosened up again later
I didn't have quite that many problems with mine back in the day but this one has never been on an engine either
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Heads are finally back from cnc port work, bigger valves an better springs.

Hoping the next picture will be of this going in the car.
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Originally Posted by TTOP350
Heads are finally back from cnc port work, bigger valves an better springs.

Hope the next pic this will be going in the car.
thats making my mouth water
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Looking for a couple nice factory tower hose clamps for the U hose on the intake to T-body.
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u have pics? or diagrams? I have boxes of stuff, maybe.....
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Google Wittek tower hose clamps. Pretty sure the OEM clamps are marked Wittek. Got something similar on my Mustang's heater hoses, but I think they might be marked with a Ford logo.
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Have a couple, they’re original, but I didn’t notice any markings. Paint is peeling, but they work properly.
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Perfect, PM sent.
Old 04-25-2019 | 08:32 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Old 04-27-2019 | 09:41 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Heads on, rockers adjusted an rocking. Waiting on "correct" intake gaskets, which oil pan and waterpump I want to use. I've been looking for a "correct" original looking waterpump for quite awhile but since they all now seem to have that silly port on the top, may as well use the aluminum GM performance parts pump or the Edelbrock aluminum pump I have. Also been busy working on other small details for the engine, engine compartment and suspension..
Looks like I may need a better camera too..

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How come all your pictures have something mysterious and even more interesting in the background? It's like your garage is a car guy paradise.
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I hear you can have a stock water pump refurbed if you don't want the universal aftermarket style with the return port on top. Got a couple stockers on the shelf to rebuild at some point myself, but haven't looked into a rebuilder yet. It's the limitation of small town life, not a lot of specialty shops around.
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Old 04-28-2019 | 10:57 AM
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How come all your pictures have something mysterious and even more interesting in the background? It's like your garage is a car guy paradise.
lol It's such a mess with several cars apart right now. And I seem to be stuck in the 70s 80s and 90s.. lol

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