"it" has begun....
#151
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Car: 1989 Firebird GTA
Engine: Motown Aluminum 427
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Re: "it" has begun....
I got a set from a Pontiac dealer back inn 88 and they were NOT painted, they were as cast/machined and had to be painted.
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Car: 1989 Firebird GTA
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Re: "it" has begun....
I saw a pic from your place over on the Maui build thread, and I asked what this was forgetting it want your thread. Anyway, what's it from?
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I have 1LE spindles stored in my garage and it has the same darkish-grey color as my original standard spindles from 1989. It has a look as if there was an oxidation process to put a protective surface coating on it. Everything is from the desert and there is no rust.
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Car: 90 Formula / T-tops
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yes, the color is very similar to the TPI plate on the throttle body
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
#156
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Here she is in her 10year bare metal state, just waiting for it's turn under the paint gun. 70 body but putting a lot of my 73 formula parts in it and I have piles of NOS parts to go on it. Was a bare shell when I bought it almost 20 years ago but it did have a nasty pearl paint job over the factory green paint
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Car: 1989 Firebird GTA
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That looks super straight, what you got pinned to the front for binders, they look a little bigger than stock....
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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I had 14" 2 piece Baer rotors and 06 ZO6 6 piston calipers at each corner but traded them off and I'm wanting to go another way. I think that's just a 13" Baer rotor on there now.
Found a picture of them, 06 ZO6 6 piston calipers for all 4 corners and 14" 2 piece rotors
Found a picture of them, 06 ZO6 6 piston calipers for all 4 corners and 14" 2 piece rotors
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Nothing like a NOS set. (I'm sure they'll work perfectly too ) lol
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
The heads are being ported and the shortblock should be here soon. A little behind but life could be worse.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Another boring post but think I have all the stuff to do the small to large distributor swap without cutting the factory harness like SLP did.
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Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Yes, the 92s are small cap distributor, I need to use the large cap dist and I didn't want to cut the factory harness if I didn't need to.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
A little ZZ4 shortblock update
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
It's just a current ZZ(?) shorblock.. There is still some stock around. Just ordered it from scummit.
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Car: 1984 T/A
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#171
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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I've always called them that. lol
This happened a long time ago..
Called them on a thurs or fri, they told me they had a super ram in stock and it would be at my place b4 next wednesday. It never showed up, I called and they said it was BO, I cancelled the order. Ordered from jugs, got intake in 2 days ported it an went racing on fri night. Then scummit sent me the super ram 4 weeks later and were pissed at me because I refused it..
This happened a long time ago..
Called them on a thurs or fri, they told me they had a super ram in stock and it would be at my place b4 next wednesday. It never showed up, I called and they said it was BO, I cancelled the order. Ordered from jugs, got intake in 2 days ported it an went racing on fri night. Then scummit sent me the super ram 4 weeks later and were pissed at me because I refused it..
#172
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From: DFW
Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
Re: "it" has begun....
I've always called them that. lol
This happened a long time ago..
Called them on a thurs or fri, they told me they had a super ram in stock and it would be at my place b4 next wednesday. It never showed up, I called and they said it was BO, I cancelled the order. Ordered from jugs, got intake in 2 days ported it an went racing on fri night. Then scummit sent me the super ram 4 weeks later and were pissed at me because I refused it..
This happened a long time ago..
Called them on a thurs or fri, they told me they had a super ram in stock and it would be at my place b4 next wednesday. It never showed up, I called and they said it was BO, I cancelled the order. Ordered from jugs, got intake in 2 days ported it an went racing on fri night. Then scummit sent me the super ram 4 weeks later and were pissed at me because I refused it..
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
I think there are inspection marks for the inspection marks.
Got it off the crate on a stand, installed and degreed the SLP cam
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Did a little port work and cleaned up the EGR a bit. Hope to be putting it on the longblock this week..
These rear calipers were black. Not perfectly clean but a lot better. Still have a bit more I'll clean up like the rusty bracket. Have new Delco rotors and NOS pads to install yet.
Also worked on the Dana axle spacer and axle endplay/preload stuff.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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So I'm struggling with my oil pan choice.
Do I use the stock pan like the Firehawks or do I put on the NOS Hamburger oil pan setup I have? They were available through SLP on the SLP 50hp kit (optional) but haven't seen a Hawk with one.
1st world problems I know...
Do I use the stock pan like the Firehawks or do I put on the NOS Hamburger oil pan setup I have? They were available through SLP on the SLP 50hp kit (optional) but haven't seen a Hawk with one.
1st world problems I know...
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
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Yeah, tough problem you have.
But if I had the improved Hamburger pan, I'd run it.
But if I had the improved Hamburger pan, I'd run it.
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Car: 1992 Z28 1LE
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As much as I say use it, I might go stock personally. When I bought the blue T ram iroc from Dave he told me over and over about how the SLP hamburger pan that was on it was a nightmare to seal from day one, and that it never really fit right from the get go! and when I got the car, it was leaking and loose, and I tightened it up and replaced all of the hardware one at a time and got it sealed up but it still loosened up again later
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Re: "it" has begun....
Driver car: Use what works best.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
As much as I say use it, I might go stock personally. When I bought the blue T ram iroc from Dave he told me over and over about how the SLP hamburger pan that was on it was a nightmare to seal from day one, and that it never really fit right from the get go! and when I got the car, it was leaking and loose, and I tightened it up and replaced all of the hardware one at a time and got it sealed up but it still loosened up again later
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Heads are finally back from cnc port work, bigger valves an better springs.
Hoping the next picture will be of this going in the car.
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Car: 90 Formula 350
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Looking for a couple nice factory tower hose clamps for the U hose on the intake to T-body.
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Google Wittek tower hose clamps. Pretty sure the OEM clamps are marked Wittek. Got something similar on my Mustang's heater hoses, but I think they might be marked with a Ford logo.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Perfect, PM sent.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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#197
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Heads on, rockers adjusted an rocking. Waiting on "correct" intake gaskets, which oil pan and waterpump I want to use. I've been looking for a "correct" original looking waterpump for quite awhile but since they all now seem to have that silly port on the top, may as well use the aluminum GM performance parts pump or the Edelbrock aluminum pump I have. Also been busy working on other small details for the engine, engine compartment and suspension..
Looks like I may need a better camera too..
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How come all your pictures have something mysterious and even more interesting in the background? It's like your garage is a car guy paradise.
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I hear you can have a stock water pump refurbed if you don't want the universal aftermarket style with the return port on top. Got a couple stockers on the shelf to rebuild at some point myself, but haven't looked into a rebuilder yet. It's the limitation of small town life, not a lot of specialty shops around.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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lol It's such a mess with several cars apart right now. And I seem to be stuck in the 70s 80s and 90s.. lol
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