"it" has begun....
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Car: 1992 Trans Am GTA
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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From: Michigan
Car: 1992 Trans Am GTA
Engine: L98 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Just the corvette ZF boot parts that bolt to the top of the shifter. From what I remember
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Car: 1992 Trans Am GTA
Engine: L98 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
It didn't seal very well and let a lot of heat through which is why I added this one
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Car: 1992 Trans Am GTA
Engine: L98 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Had some time on sunday and opened up the diff because the cover silicone/cover had a slight drip.
Confirmed 3.54 posi and diff lube was starting to jell up. Glad I opened it up and cleaned it out.
Also took pictures of all the random casting numbers and stampings
Confirmed 3.54 posi and diff lube was starting to jell up. Glad I opened it up and cleaned it out.
Also took pictures of all the random casting numbers and stampings
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
I have been using teflon paste and a gasket for a long time. For me, it has proved to work better than just silicone.
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#512
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From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
It’s really looking like a junkyard over there. Let me take some of that worthless scrap from you. 😆
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Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
Re: "it" has begun....
3.54s? Man I didn't find anything that made sense on mine just ring gear thoughts? Mine was 3.54s too
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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From: DFW
Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
Re: "it" has begun....
Depends where fill plug is usually 2 quarts a lot of dana 44 have high fill plugs when they are pointed up on a lifted vehicle - I put 1 quart in then modifier, then topped it off was almost 2 quarts
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
A very boring update
Stumbled on a NOS GM day 2 serp belt so now I can save the old crusty assembly line one for whatever..
Original assembly line belt
GM replacement, stll old but much better than the original belt.
For those crazy enough to want a old semi correct belt.
Stumbled on a NOS GM day 2 serp belt so now I can save the old crusty assembly line one for whatever..
Original assembly line belt
GM replacement, stll old but much better than the original belt.
For those crazy enough to want a old semi correct belt.
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From: Michigan
Car: 1992 Trans Am GTA
Engine: L98 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: "it" has begun....
A very boring update
Stumbled on a NOS GM day 2 serp belt so now I can save the old crusty assembly line one for whatever..
Original assembly line belt
GM replacement, stll old but much better than the original belt.
For those crazy enough to want a old semi correct belt.
Stumbled on a NOS GM day 2 serp belt so now I can save the old crusty assembly line one for whatever..
Original assembly line belt
GM replacement, stll old but much better than the original belt.
For those crazy enough to want a old semi correct belt.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
The font used on the belt lettering and numbers. Other than that, it's a bit newer. And yeah, I'm a bit weird. I just like finding these oddball things.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Spent some time in garage sat working on ttop, a bunch of friends came over and we had a killer time. Hope to be getting back on this soon
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Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
Re: "it" has begun....
when I look at the subjects of that picture I realize that we store rear ends the same way pretty much I even have few mounted on the wall too you have build thread on blue car or is it another 2OTL car with dual air intake, Tri-Y's ?
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
That's my friend Joe's 91 formula 350. Has the wheels, cold air and catback on the car. Has a few more things to put on it yet.
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Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
Re: "it" has begun....
so.... what's status of "IT"? You ever get it running right or just replacing belts on it, your such a tease...I mean, ahh, I'm ready to make the trip and get co-pilot status
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Just a few small things here and there (latest is "correct" simpson belts for the seats). Have had a little distraction and summer family time soooo the cars are on back burner a bit.
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Car: 1992 Trans Am GTA
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
A few quick pictures from the 2021 T/A Nats. Will post a few more later. I haven't really done anything to it since before the last show in 19' . crazy how time flies.
Easy way to move the TTA pedal car to the trailer!
Jim Mattison Pontiac historical services (PHS)
Reg Harris, Pontiac, PAS and SLP marketing
Yes, I clean my plate before I go out and play every time.
And the kiddo photo
Easy way to move the TTA pedal car to the trailer!
Jim Mattison Pontiac historical services (PHS)
Reg Harris, Pontiac, PAS and SLP marketing
Yes, I clean my plate before I go out and play every time.
And the kiddo photo
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Some slight bad news though, the factory heater core decided it has had enough and started leaking. Noticed it when I was putting car away tonight. Good thing I have a NOS one ready to go.
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: "it" has begun....
Didn't know you were going this year Tony. Cool autographs!
I follow the Nats facebook page. 494 for turnout this year...event record is 525, set back in 2001. Doesn't seem like this event is going away any time soon! If the border was open, this might have been a record year.
I already spoke with my wife about going next year.
I follow the Nats facebook page. 494 for turnout this year...event record is 525, set back in 2001. Doesn't seem like this event is going away any time soon! If the border was open, this might have been a record year.
I already spoke with my wife about going next year.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Finally getting around to resealing the old R4 compressor. To my surprise it still had a very very very little bit of psi in it but it was leaking oil like it has the clap.
Sometimes it's not pretty to get things apart but need to make it happen. Just need a slight bit of psi to get the shell to move and then it just slides off. (It's not pressing on the clutch coil)
Apart and getting cleaned up for the new seals. The outer shell O ring is what was leaking oil.
Sometimes it's not pretty to get things apart but need to make it happen. Just need a slight bit of psi to get the shell to move and then it just slides off. (It's not pressing on the clutch coil)
Apart and getting cleaned up for the new seals. The outer shell O ring is what was leaking oil.
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#537
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From: DFW
Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
Re: "it" has begun....
HMM never saw inside if damn R4 before, yuk!! never liked them once it took 3 Delco's till got one that didnt leak on wifey's suburban but some were OK orig on my 87 impressed me - lasted 100+K and blew ice cubes out the vents your braver than I am resealing one! woulda gave the beers logo but thats not option - (note to Mods- can we get some better Emoji's? )
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: "it" has begun....
Glad you are doing this Tony. Despite this compressor being unpopular, I planned to reseal mine too.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Most everyone says if you have a good fairly quiet stock unit, keep and use it. The parts store rebuilds are hit/miss. Not a huge fan of the look of most other options either.
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From: Austin, TX
Car: 90 Formula / T-tops
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: MD8
Re: "it" has begun....
For the record, I'm not sure if this one is "good" or not, all the bearings look good and no scuffing in the 4cyls so going to take a shot with it.
Most everyone says if you have a good fairly quiet stock unit, keep and use it. The rebuilds are hit/miss. Not a huge fan of the look of most other options either.
Most everyone says if you have a good fairly quiet stock unit, keep and use it. The rebuilds are hit/miss. Not a huge fan of the look of most other options either.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Had to dig out a NOS pulley and clutch. The original was shot from oil on it and being old
Going back together with new seals. Didn't even have to remove the coil on the snout
NOS, bearing/pulley. Cleaned up that rust a bit b4 it went together.
New clutch has 3 holes for a spanner wrench to grab on to. Old one doesn't, there goes a few more points at the pebble beach show.
Back together with all new seals. Even put a bunch more throughout the system, think I got them all. Will vac it down soon. Hope to get to the heater core this week.
Going back together with new seals. Didn't even have to remove the coil on the snout
NOS, bearing/pulley. Cleaned up that rust a bit b4 it went together.
New clutch has 3 holes for a spanner wrench to grab on to. Old one doesn't, there goes a few more points at the pebble beach show.
Back together with all new seals. Even put a bunch more throughout the system, think I got them all. Will vac it down soon. Hope to get to the heater core this week.
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From: DFW
Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
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Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54
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Re: "it" has begun....
As soon as the front seal starts leaking again, those 3 holes will be filled with filth in no time. Problem solved.
Juts kidding. Nice work!
Juts kidding. Nice work!
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Heater core swapped out in 1hr, 50mins. Took my time and cleaned a few things up while in there too. Not sure why people dread them so much.
Pictures
Started at 11:38 finished at 1:30pm
Core out in 20 mins
91F Date code ?
NOS core is from 89
Tubes are the same, picture angle makes them look off a bit. Judging by how small the corrosion is, we caught this leaky guy fairly early.
Side by side, again, tubes are the same.
Pictures
Started at 11:38 finished at 1:30pm
Core out in 20 mins
91F Date code ?
NOS core is from 89
Tubes are the same, picture angle makes them look off a bit. Judging by how small the corrosion is, we caught this leaky guy fairly early.
Side by side, again, tubes are the same.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: "it" has begun....
Made a quick 13hr rocket run yesterday for a nice (but dirty) set of original Ronal R15s with maybe 50 miles and newish set of Mickey Thompson rubber.
Was looking for a nice set to do in yellow so I wouldn't have to paint the red ones, even though SLP painted over the red for the color cars.
Hoping to have the center caps, wheels, hood and front bumper painted for some shows and burnouts this year.
The Ronal center caps have a SLP decal on them put on by the owner. The Goodyear F1s were from a crashed low mile 99SS. Owner put the tires/wheels on the car, drove around the block and it has sat ever since. He was guessing at least 15 years.
Was looking for a nice set to do in yellow so I wouldn't have to paint the red ones, even though SLP painted over the red for the color cars.
Hoping to have the center caps, wheels, hood and front bumper painted for some shows and burnouts this year.
The Ronal center caps have a SLP decal on them put on by the owner. The Goodyear F1s were from a crashed low mile 99SS. Owner put the tires/wheels on the car, drove around the block and it has sat ever since. He was guessing at least 15 years.
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#548
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
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Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: "it" has begun....
Nice score! Sucks burning time to do it, but that's the part of the price when you find a deal on rare parts.
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From: DFW
Car: 90 Formula 350
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3.54