Project Procrastination '91Z LS1/T56/currie 9" w/PICS
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The front rotors were ugly:
Cleaned them with a wire wheel, then sandblasted, then painted:
Same with the calipers:
Cleaned them with a wire wheel, then sandblasted, then painted:
Same with the calipers:
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Same here. I'll switch to google photos. I thought it was a simple agree to new terms, then I thought it was a joke, $40 a month or $400 a year?! What they did was blackmail. I hope they disappear like Myspace. I'll download all my pictures again but not erase them from their server, I'll leave them their to take up space on their precious server
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Duplicolor engine enamel gloss black. Most of my stuff I sandblast, but just a scuff pad is plenty. Spray paint gets a bad rep because people don't use it properly, just like POR. If you take a few extra minutes, the results will last many years.
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Same here. I'll switch to google photos. I thought it was a simple agree to new terms, then I thought it was a joke, $40 a month or $400 a year?! What they did was blackmail. I hope they disappear like Myspace. I'll download all my pictures again but not erase them from their server, I'll leave them their to take up space on their precious server
Google photos is cool, but not ideal for forum hosting. Works just fine though.
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Same here. I'll switch to google photos. I thought it was a simple agree to new terms, then I thought it was a joke, $40 a month or $400 a year?! What they did was blackmail. I hope they disappear like Myspace. I'll download all my pictures again but not erase them from their server, I'll leave them their to take up space on their precious server
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If you're looking to get one for small jobs this thing has worked for me and it's only $20.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...rasive-blaster
I had to modify it a little for it to work correctly but for the money it's great.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...rasive-blaster
I had to modify it a little for it to work correctly but for the money it's great.
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The one I have has a pick up tube that siphons the sand from the bottom of the cup. I cut the pick up tube off and I turn the gun upside down so it's gravity fed. Works great.
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Blasted and painted the front steering parts.
Also bought billet tie rod adjusters from UMI.
Hub, dust shiels, caliper bracket blasted and painted.
Front end parts ready to go on.
Also bought billet tie rod adjusters from UMI.
Hub, dust shiels, caliper bracket blasted and painted.
Front end parts ready to go on.
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Onto the 9" rear end.
It's a Currie 9" housing
11" Currie Explorer disc brakes
big Ford housing ends (late torinio style)
31 spline axles
Strange iron center section
4.57:1 gears
Detroit locker
Billet 1350 yoke
Dirty from sitting under my parts car for years:
I tore down the brakes, parking brake assemblies, and calipers to clean them.
Rear rotors were as nasty as the fronts. Like the fronts I decided to say the hell with it and clean them up rather than buy new ones. I'm sick of spending money and an hour with the die grinder, sand blaster, and paint, they're ready:
It's a Currie 9" housing
11" Currie Explorer disc brakes
big Ford housing ends (late torinio style)
31 spline axles
Strange iron center section
4.57:1 gears
Detroit locker
Billet 1350 yoke
Dirty from sitting under my parts car for years:
I tore down the brakes, parking brake assemblies, and calipers to clean them.
Rear rotors were as nasty as the fronts. Like the fronts I decided to say the hell with it and clean them up rather than buy new ones. I'm sick of spending money and an hour with the die grinder, sand blaster, and paint, they're ready:
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Started to clean and blast the housing and center section.
Cleaned up with the currie torque arm mounts cut off.
Cleaned up with the currie torque arm mounts cut off.
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Now I need to weld on the S&W torque arm mount, and the sway bar mounts from UMI.
I ordered the welding jig from S&W Monday.
I'll re-make the passenger side brake line because I don't like the union that was used previously.
The center will NOT come off! I many need to weld a small tab onto it to have something to pry against.
I ordered the welding jig from S&W Monday.
I'll re-make the passenger side brake line because I don't like the union that was used previously.
The center will NOT come off! I many need to weld a small tab onto it to have something to pry against.
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I've been fixing picture links for a few days now. You should be able to seethe trans rebuild now.
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Got the center section off finally. I may drill and tap a small hole in it somewhere to make removal easier in the future. Toyota does this with some of their brake drums and it makes removing them much easier. You just thread the bolt in and it pushes the drum off of the shoes. Same idea here, but haven't made up my mind yet. I may use a gasket in place of RTV. Seems unnecessary.
Blasted and painted the center section:
Here's the paint I used:
Blasted and painted the center section:
Here's the paint I used:
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I needed to remove the existing tabs and weld the BMR sway bar mounts
They're not welded end to end because they're deisgned to also be used on 3.5" tubes.
Then I mounted the S&W welding jig:
They're not welded end to end because they're deisgned to also be used on 3.5" tubes.
Then I mounted the S&W welding jig:
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That's an interesting welding jig. If you are able to find out what angle the mounting surface is for the center section in relation to the spring perches or LCA mounts I may be interested in borrowing it. When I do my 8.8 frankenstein I had concocted a big jig that mounted the Torque arm and LCA to it so when I weld on the Torque arm bracket I wouldn't screw the factory angle up. Borrowing that may be so much easier!
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The welding jig belongs to S&W. They allow you to rent it here:
http://www.swracecars.com/store/JIG-...0-617-JIG.aspx
Costs $300, then you return it and they refund you $200.
If you use it too let me know before you start because I have some important tips.
http://www.swracecars.com/store/JIG-...0-617-JIG.aspx
Costs $300, then you return it and they refund you $200.
If you use it too let me know before you start because I have some important tips.
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Had the housing and torque arm bracket powder coated. The torque arm comes powder coated. Took them to Last Chance Coatings. Same place that coated the front control arms and spindles on this car.
http://www.lastchancecoatings.com/
http://www.lastchancecoatings.com/
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Cost?
I am interested in doing the same now that I have seen your setup.
I was thinking of just 2K primer and paint before.
I am interested in doing the same now that I have seen your setup.
I was thinking of just 2K primer and paint before.
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If you were to paint a housing I'd use POR15. It really is like paintable powdercoat. As long as you prep the surface it's almost indestructible.
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Thanks for the info. My rear is about 15 years old but only has 5k miles on it.
I painted it back when I bought it, but I was stupid back then and didn't prep well before the POR15. It peeled in a lot of places.
I plan on almost DD the car once it is complete so maybe a simple GOOD prep and POR15 is the way to go for me. Thanks again.
I painted it back when I bought it, but I was stupid back then and didn't prep well before the POR15. It peeled in a lot of places.
I plan on almost DD the car once it is complete so maybe a simple GOOD prep and POR15 is the way to go for me. Thanks again.
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It looks like photobucket came to their senses because all of my pictures are working again.......
Is everyone else seeing this??
Is everyone else seeing this??
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I can see them. I'm still thinking photobucket ransomed everyone of "their" pictures across the net but when they saw the enormous backlash they decided to grant access to hosted pictures that had lots of traffic. I'm guessing, again, that it had to do with the loss of members and reduction in site usage which would mean that they would have to refund possibly hundreds of thousands if not millions to advertisers. When you advertise on a site you are entering an agreement where the site guarantees your ad will see a certain number of views/visits and if the site doesn't hold up the their end of the deal they, like the NFL(), has to pay up. My father in-law had explained that to me. He was an advertising executive for an agency that handled the Chicago Cubs and other big stuff, it was interesting theory. The way PhotoBucket did it was so insanely stupid because if you think about it, Photobucket just plastered the internet with anti-photobucket ads. Who would want to advertise or keep an account with them after seeing millions of those?
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Ten years ago I had one powder coated by an industrial coatings company. They almost exclusively did coatings for companies like caterpillar but as long as I was OK with yellow or semi-gloss black they could slip the item in the line up for cheap. Think they did that rear end for $75. Maybe you could find a company like that.
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Now the pics are showing for me too.
i just went to check the "how to prep a 3rd gen harness" for ls swaps post. I'm still not seeing pics in that thread.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-lsx/541387-how-prep-3rd-gen.html
photobucket is killing me. I should have saved this info long ago.
i just went to check the "how to prep a 3rd gen harness" for ls swaps post. I'm still not seeing pics in that thread.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-lsx/541387-how-prep-3rd-gen.html
photobucket is killing me. I should have saved this info long ago.
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The only thing that wasn't finished from the mini-tub was the panhard bar mount. So I fixed it's mounting holes:
Test fit:
Blasted and primed bare metal:
Welded and painted:
Test fit:
Blasted and primed bare metal:
Welded and painted:
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Next I pulled out the subframe connectors I bought, sanded them down and POR painted them.
Before paint:
After paint and mocked into place:
Before paint:
After paint and mocked into place:
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Then I got the engine/trans/k-member together and installed:
Then I finally for the 10mm Rivnuts (no pics but will another time) and crossmember install:
Then I finally for the 10mm Rivnuts (no pics but will another time) and crossmember install:
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SOLD. That didn't take long.
Founders rear panhard bar and control arms are for sale:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...nhard-bar.html
Founders rear panhard bar and control arms are for sale:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...nhard-bar.html
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I began mocking up the rear end today. Installed the Founders adjustable panhard bar, control arms and shocks:
Here's the center section installed:
With the torque arm brackets installed:
Centering the housing with homemade cresent wrench plumb bobs:
Then I started to install the torque arm so I could weld the crossmember in place, and ran into a problem. The rod ends wouldn't thread into the arm. This is as far as they'd go (less than 1 thread):
The thread looked somewhat ugly, but my guess is that they got cut with the wrong tap for some reason. Should be 3/4-16 top and 3/4-16 Left-handed bottom (adjuster):
Here's the center section installed:
With the torque arm brackets installed:
Centering the housing with homemade cresent wrench plumb bobs:
Then I started to install the torque arm so I could weld the crossmember in place, and ran into a problem. The rod ends wouldn't thread into the arm. This is as far as they'd go (less than 1 thread):
The thread looked somewhat ugly, but my guess is that they got cut with the wrong tap for some reason. Should be 3/4-16 top and 3/4-16 Left-handed bottom (adjuster):
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So S&W sent me a replacement that arrived today:
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Great progress. And good on S&W. I had not herd of them before but now I will take a look knowing they are easy to work with.
I may have already asked this, but what did you use for your undercoating? I am getting close to that step in my build and want to start to field suggestions.
I may have already asked this, but what did you use for your undercoating? I am getting close to that step in my build and want to start to field suggestions.
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Great progress. And good on S&W. I had not herd of them before but now I will take a look knowing they are easy to work with.
I may have already asked this, but what did you use for your undercoating? I am getting close to that step in my build and want to start to field suggestions.
I may have already asked this, but what did you use for your undercoating? I am getting close to that step in my build and want to start to field suggestions.
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I have a host of information about finding the cars center line and making it perpendicular and centered. I'll post it up on my thread in a couple days once I'm further in the process on my car. In a nutshell the common way everyone says to center the rear is how you're doing it and that will only center it visually to the exterior. Centering the rear off the fenders will not center it to the suspension. I did it that way first and was off 5/8" or so with the rear end skewed towards the passenger side. When it's centered it should appear to skew towards the drivers side. I found out also that with the rear end (ten bolt) completely centered it should be off the cars center line by 0.40"
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Welded the subframe connectors:
Then painted:
Then started working on the S&W torque arm crossmember. It's removable via a pair of tabs that you wend to your subframe connectors:
Added a bend to the passenger side so it would line up:
Tacked the tabs in place
Weleded in place:
Painted:
Then painted:
Then started working on the S&W torque arm crossmember. It's removable via a pair of tabs that you wend to your subframe connectors:
Added a bend to the passenger side so it would line up:
Tacked the tabs in place
Weleded in place:
Painted:
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I also reinforced the rear of the subframe connectors by bending and welding some 3/16" plate:
Then I finally installed the QA1 adjustable upper spring mounts:
Then I finally installed the QA1 adjustable upper spring mounts:
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It's 5/32" wall 1" diameter tube.
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Without the bar having anything more inboard to attach to it will probably flex but I doubt it would be enough to change your pinion angle by more than 1*.
One of my future projects is going to be to make and weld some 1/8" L brackets from my inner subframe connectors to the floor pan. Might be easy for you to take some of your left over plate you have and make a quick L bracket.
One of my future projects is going to be to make and weld some 1/8" L brackets from my inner subframe connectors to the floor pan. Might be easy for you to take some of your left over plate you have and make a quick L bracket.
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Re: Project Procrastination '91Z LS1/T56/currie 9" w/PICS
Agreed. I had mig welded the SFC's on, then needed to do the crossmember, 3/16" SFC reinforcement, and upper spring mounts..........Annnnd my mig ran out of gas........on a Saturday. Nobody's open. I wasn't going to just burn an entire weekend so I went ahead and tig'd everything. SUCH a pain in the *** to tig overhead, but hey. it's done and came out very well.
So I got more gas yesterday, and will add some 1/8" reinforcements to the floor.
So I got more gas yesterday, and will add some 1/8" reinforcements to the floor.
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Re: Project Procrastination '91Z LS1/T56/currie 9" w/PICS
Been making progress, just haven't posted much lately.
Started with the fuel tank:
Test fit it:
Then sandblasted and painted (POR) the heat shields, tank straps, and fuel filler neck.
Found a manufacturing date on the tank too
Next headache were bumpstops. I cut them off of the parts car:
And welded them in place:
Without them the torque arm mount would crash into the fuel tank! This was a much bigger job than these pictures tell.
Back to the fuel tank. I started by draining the leftover fuel. Simply power the fuel pump with a battery and let it pump the old fuel into a few gas cans. Then I removed the pump/sump and cleaned the tank out by hand with paper towels. Very clean inside:
Then I started installing the racetronix fuel pump
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...s/FPA-001B.jpg
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...lv61inubrh2lr2
Started with the fuel tank:
Test fit it:
Then sandblasted and painted (POR) the heat shields, tank straps, and fuel filler neck.
Found a manufacturing date on the tank too
Next headache were bumpstops. I cut them off of the parts car:
And welded them in place:
Without them the torque arm mount would crash into the fuel tank! This was a much bigger job than these pictures tell.
Back to the fuel tank. I started by draining the leftover fuel. Simply power the fuel pump with a battery and let it pump the old fuel into a few gas cans. Then I removed the pump/sump and cleaned the tank out by hand with paper towels. Very clean inside:
Then I started installing the racetronix fuel pump
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...s/FPA-001B.jpg
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...lv61inubrh2lr2
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Re: Project Procrastination '91Z LS1/T56/currie 9" w/PICS
Then I started making a fuel pump access door.
Then I cut out a larger section from my parts car:
Used some 5mm rivnuts to attach it:
Then painted the bottom of the cover:
Then I cut out a larger section from my parts car:
Used some 5mm rivnuts to attach it:
Then painted the bottom of the cover:
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Re: Project Procrastination '91Z LS1/T56/currie 9" w/PICS
Then installed the fuel tank again:
Made my fuel lines:
Here's the tank/lines/filter finished
Then I started assembling the rear end. I am not a fan of using RTV, so I bought 2 gaskets. However to aid in removal of the center section, I added a 1/4-20 jack screw. This helps you push the center away from the housing with a screw. Mine won't be difficult since I'm not using RTV, but I wanted it anyway. If you've ever worked on some imports with rear drum brakes, you've probably seen this before on a brake drum. They're VERY handy.
Strange only offers this option on their PRO HD and ULTRA center sections, but I wanted to add one to mine. Simple as drilling and tapping a hole
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http://www.strangeengineering.net/wp...1462306264.pdf
Here's the drain plug and magnets I've added:
Made my fuel lines:
Here's the tank/lines/filter finished
Then I started assembling the rear end. I am not a fan of using RTV, so I bought 2 gaskets. However to aid in removal of the center section, I added a 1/4-20 jack screw. This helps you push the center away from the housing with a screw. Mine won't be difficult since I'm not using RTV, but I wanted it anyway. If you've ever worked on some imports with rear drum brakes, you've probably seen this before on a brake drum. They're VERY handy.
Strange only offers this option on their PRO HD and ULTRA center sections, but I wanted to add one to mine. Simple as drilling and tapping a hole
#18
http://www.strangeengineering.net/wp...1462306264.pdf
Here's the drain plug and magnets I've added: